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CLAN WARS 4 - INTERNATIONAL

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭IFS.NI


    UFC Veteran Colin 'Big C' Robinson will be the special guest at Clan Wars on Sunday and will be providing the title winners with their belts.

    Colin is a well known figure and a pioneer in Irish MMA and we welcome him to the show :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭IFS.NI


    Clan Wars Promotions will be looking after parents with children who will be attending Clan Wars 4 on Sunday.

    The doors will open at 3pm and parents will be allowed in first with their children for the front row seats.

    We have been to a few events where the children can not see because of their size, this is a small step we can make to try and improve on this situation.

    We also remind everyone that Clan Wars from day one have been about promoting a respectful positive attitude from the fans showing support to all fighters, we remind everyone again on this so we can all work together and promote Irish MMA for the good of us all wether fighters or spectators!

    Limited tickets are available from the Armagh City Hotel and there will be tickets available at the door,

    Thanks for all your support

    See you all on Sunday!

    Thanks

    Paul


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    Looking forward to this show, get to it if possible and support Irish MMA, these shows do be great craic and often better than the major shows such as the UFC for entertainment value..

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭IFS.NI


    Hi guys,

    There are now a small number of tickets which are the left overs from clubs at the Armagh City Hotel.

    I have had alot of phone calls with guys asking to pay on the day so if you would like a last minute ticket please go to the hotel reception on the day to collect it there, once they are gone it will be limited pay on the door.

    Official weigh in times will be tomorrow at 3pm at -

    Danny Corrs Gym
    UNIT 1A
    Valley Business park
    Newtownabbey

    Paul Cowzer
    Rush Gym
    Dublin

    Jason Mc Cabe
    Evolve gym
    Derry


    Thanks guys

    Paul


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 826 ✭✭✭Jason McCabe


    Paul,

    It does not say on your web site or poster what time the doors open.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭IFS.NI


    Hi Jason,

    Yea thats prob an old poster buddy - its on the new ones and the tickets.

    Doors open at 3pm with parents with children getting in first if they are in the que when the doors open.

    Thanks mate

    Paul


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭IFS.NI


    FINAL RUNNING ORDER - RED CORNER LEFT, BLUE CORNER RIGHT.

    MAIN EVENT WW IRISH TITLE 77kg PRO A
    Mike Reid (Gracie Barra) v Merv Muholland (IFS)

    The main event of the evening will see two up and comers face off for the Irish Welterweight title. Both guys are young, talented and are coming off impressive wins at Clan Wars 3 so expect fireworks in this fight.


    LW 70kg PRO A
    Peter Duncan (Chum Sut) v Darren Hughes (Sudden Impact)

    Darren Hughes has made it to the ISKA Lightweight semi finals after his 3 round battle with Alan Hannon at Clan Wars 3. His opponent will be Cage Wars Vetern Peter 'Slam ' Duncan. This is a highly anticipated match up and a big favorite of the fans - this will be a war!


    WW 77kg PRO A
    Neysden Santos (BST lanzarote) v John Donnelly (Ryano)

    The Brazilian Neysden Santos is 6-1 and hails from sunny Lanzarote under Vittorio Grant from BSTMMA – The guys from BSTMMA are an awesome outfit and are excited about returning to Ireland to take on one of Irelands best young talents in John Donnelly from one of Irelands top teams, Team Ryano. One of the top 77kg fighters in Ireland this will be arguably the biggest test of Donnelly’s career to date. He will be looking to give the Irish faithful something to cheer about on the night against an International opponent.

    CATCHWEIGHT 90kg PRO B
    Wojtek Antczak (Husaria FT) v Michael Nicholls (Mourne MMA)

    If anyone hasn’t seen the Husaria guys fight they are in for a treat, they have a do or die attitude that always makes for an exciting fight. Wojtek Antczak faces up against Michael Nicholls from Mourne MMA who is a Cage Wars veteran and a very technical fighter. This will be an interesting match up between to big men.


    MW 84kg PRO B
    Tim Mc Crory (Kyoujin MMA) v John Redmond (RUSH)

    This is a rematch between two very talented fighters. Both guys have been training extremely hard for this and promise to bring their ‘A’ game to the table to give the fans an exciting fight that they wont forget.


    LW 70kg PRO B
    Bogusz Pochylski (Husaria Fight Team) v Connor Dillon (Brazilian Top Team)

    Both of these fighters like to stand and bang so this fight almost promises a Knock Out. Bogusz comes off a very impressive display at Clan Wars 3 where he displayed excellent striking skills and aggression. Connor Dillion can boast these same traits and will be coming to knock Bogusz out – expect a frantic fight with a high percentage chance of a Knock Out!!


    ISKA COMMONWEALTH AMATEUR 66kg TITLE
    Matt Maguire (Andy Nugent JKD) v Joe Frey (IFS)

    Top Amateur UK featherweight v Irelands featherweight ISKA Champion!

    This is a huge fight for both these young guys but especially for Irish ISKA Champion Joe Frey. Matt is the UK’s top amateur fighter with 19 fights! Frey will have the chance to improve his impressive amateur record and represent Ireland for this Title match, which could make him the top amateur featherweight in the commonwealth. As always the Irish fans will be behind their local fighter and look forward to seeing Joe take the title.


    C CLASS WW 84kg
    Mal Mc Fall (Chum Sut) v Ian Girvin (Extreme Fighters)

    This will be a tradional striker v grapller match up with these two guys making their C class debut.


    C CLASS WW 77kg
    Aaron Flynn (Dog pound) V Sam Ferguson (Coliseum)

    Sam Ferguson is coming from one of the UK’s top gyms, the coliseum – this gym boasts a never say quit attitude and are know for producing very talented and tough fighters. Aaron Flynn is just as tough and fights out of the Dog pound gym in Newry. – Both fighters like to bang so this will make for an exciting match-up.


    C CLASS FW 66kg
    Natahan Wells (Chum Sut) v Peter Doyle (UFA)

    These 2 fighters are both coming off victories, they come from 2 well respected camps so this will make for an exciting even match up.

    C CLASS MW 84kg
    Ben Forsythe (Legends MMA) V Khristoff Plona (Lucan MMA)

    This is a middleweight contest with two very capable strikers. Expect heavy hands in this fight that will unlikely go the judges scorecards.


    C CLASS Catch weight 73kg
    Joe Colgan (Chum Sut) v Warren Mitchell (extreme fighters)

    This is an exciting fight between two light heavyweight fighters. A classic striker versus grappler match-up, this fight is far too close to call!


    C CLASS LW 77kg
    Gary Carlin (Evolve) v Michael Townsley (Extreme Fighters)

    Michael Townsley will be making his debut fight against Gary Carlin from Evolve. Michaels team did well at Spartan on Saturday and will want to continue that at Clan Wars. His opponent is Gary Carlin who is a talented fighter from Evolve. Carlin’s record does not do him justice and the talented fighter will be looking for the victory in this promising fight.

    D Class WW 77kg
    Conor Mc Guickian (IMMA) v Stephen Owens (IFS)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 pauls01


    Just home from this event. Was very impressed with the quality, some great fights, and but for a a few horrendous refeereeing decisions, it could have been even better. Some fights ruined by absolutey terrible calls - are these the best MMA referees that Ireland has to offer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭pablohoney87


    pauls01 wrote: »
    Just home from this event. Was very impressed with the quality, some great fights, and but for a a few horrendous refeereeing decisions, it could have been even better. Some fights ruined by absolutey terrible calls - are these the best MMA referees that Ireland has to offer?

    Which fights in particular. You cant complain about the last 2 fights. I was backstage for most of the 1st section though. Thought the redmand fight coulda been stopped earlier but peter had the sense to throw in the towel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭Killme00


    Any results guys?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭pablohoney87


    MAIN EVENT WW IRISH TITLE 77kg PRO A
    Mike Reid (Gracie Barra) v Merv Muholland (IFS)
    Mike reid round 2 TKO(Punches)

    LW 70kg PRO A
    Peter Duncan (Chum Sut) v Darren Hughes (Sudden Impact)

    Peter Duncan Round 1 TKO(Knee)


    WW 77kg PRO A
    Neysden Santos (BST lanzarote) v John Donnelly (Ryano)

    John Donnely UD
    CATCHWEIGHT 90kg PRO B
    Wojtek Antczak (Husaria FT) v Michael Nicholls (Mourne MMA)

    Wojtek Antczac Round 1 Triangle submission
    MW 84kg PRO B
    Tim Mc Crory (Kyoujin MMA) v John Redmond (RUSH)

    John Redmond Corner stoppage round 1


    LW 70kg PRO B
    Bogusz Pochylski (Husaria Fight Team) v Connor Dillon (Brazilian Top Team)

    Bogusz Pochylski DQ(Headbutt i think) ROund 3

    ISKA COMMONWEALTH AMATEUR 66kg TITLE
    Matt Maguire (Andy Nugent JKD) v Joe Frey (IFS)

    Top Amateur UK featherweight v Irelands featherweight ISKA Champion!

    Joe Frey UD
    C CLASS WW 77kg
    ?????
    C CLASS Catch weight 73kg
    ?????????
    C CLASS WW 84kg
    Mal Mc Fall (Chum Sut) v Ian Girvin (Extreme Fighters)

    ??????????

    C CLASS MW 84kg
    Khristoff Plona (Lucan MMA) v Ben Forsythe (Legends MMA)

    Unanimous Draw

    C CLASS FW 66kg
    Dunno the rest


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 pauls01


    Which fights in particular. You cant complain about the last 2 fights. I was backstage for most of the 1st section though. Thought the redmand fight coulda been stopped earlier but peter had the sense to throw in the towel.

    The second last fight was ridiculous. Darren Hughes got tagged and deliberately rolled out of it and the ref jumped in thinking he had been knocked out, meaning Darren got up looking slightly bemused.

    The headbutt DQ in the Husaria fight was questionable. And what the hell was Dec Larkin playing at jumping in when Ben Forsythe rocked Khristoff Plona to stop the fight, and then letting it continue when Khristoff said he was okay. Pulling an attacking fighter off his opponent, stopping the fight, giving him time to recover and restarting it? As soon as he stepped in, the fight was over, should never have been continued.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 pauls01


    MAIN EVENT WW IRISH TITLE 77kg PRO A
    Mike Reid (Gracie Barra) v Merv Muholland (IFS)

    TKO GnP


    LW 70kg PRO A
    Peter Duncan (Chum Sut) v Darren Hughes (Sudden Impact)

    TKO Strikes


    WW 77kg PRO A
    Neysden Santos (BST lanzarote) v John Donnelly (Ryano)
    Unanimous Decision


    CATCHWEIGHT 90kg PRO B
    Wojtek Antczak (Husaria FT) v Michael Nicholls (Mourne MMA)
    Triangle

    MW 84kg PRO B
    Tim Mc Crory (Kyoujin MMA) v John Redmond (RUSH)

    Corner Stoppage


    LW 70kg PRO B
    Bogusz Pochylski (Husaria Fight Team) v Connor Dillon (Brazilian Top Team)

    DQ - Illegal Headbutt


    ISKA COMMONWEALTH AMATEUR 66kg TITLE
    Matt Maguire (Andy Nugent JKD) v Joe Frey (IFS)

    Unanimous Decision


    C CLASS WW 84kg
    Mal Mc Fall (Chum Sut) v Ian Girvin (Extreme Fighters)
    This fight was pulled.


    C CLASS WW 77kg
    Aaron Flynn (Dog pound) V Sam Ferguson (Coliseum)


    C CLASS MW 84kg
    Ben Forsythe (Legends MMA) V Khristoff Plona (Lucan MMA)

    Draw


    C CLASS Catch weight 73kg
    Joe Colgan (Chum Sut) v Warren Mitchell (extreme fighters)


    C CLASS LW 77kg
    Gary Carlin (Evolve) v Michael Townsley (Extreme Fighters)

    TKO Knees

    D Class WW 77kg
    Conor Mc Guickian (IMMA) v Stephen Owens (IFS)

    Armbar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 irishdownhiller


    anyone know how aaron flynn got beaten?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 pauls01


    anyone know how aaron flynn got beaten?

    I think it was a darce choke, but didn't put it up there because I'm not certain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭weemate


    pauls01 wrote: »
    The second last fight was ridiculous. Darren Hughes got tagged and deliberately rolled out of it and the ref jumped in thinking he had been knocked out, meaning Darren got up looking slightly bemused.

    The headbutt DQ in the Husaria fight was questionable. And what the hell was Dec Larkin playing at jumping in when Ben Forsythe rocked Khristoff Plona to stop the fight, and then letting it continue when Khristoff said he was okay. Pulling an attacking fighter off his opponent, stopping the fight, giving him time to recover and restarting it? As soon as he stepped in, the fight was over, should never have been continued.
    Firstly I have no idea who you are but I will answer your critisisms as I usually do.
    The Hughes/Duncan fight was pretty mush an even match up until Peter caught Darren with a knee to the head against the cage.Darren dropped....not slumped....dropped!in my opinion and being closer than most to the action,he was out.To prevent any further damage I stopped the fight.Whether or not Darren came round when he hit the ground is irrelevant to me...fighter safety is.I asked the timekeeper,who was sitting right beside where the incident took place,if he thought I was wrong and he agreed that Darren was caught flush.Darren is a friend of mine and a great fighter,I have reffed a lot of his fights and I dont stop fights on a whim.
    Now the headbutt was a clear breach of the rules.it wasnt a glancing blow it was a heavy thump.Now I spoke to Conor after the fight and he knows that he did butt the guy,it was accidental but it happened.I couldnt overlook it so the fight was stopped.In my opinion,Conor was winning the match by a mile up until then but he accepts what he did broke the rules and hopefully he will get a re-match.I think conor is a very exciting up and coming fighter and Im looking forward to seeing more of his fights.
    If you dont believe that fighter safety is important to me..as one of the other posters has already stated,I threw the towel in during my own fighters match up as I didnt want him taking any more punishment than he had taken.I may well have lost a top fighter after that but Im not going to stand by and watch someone take punishment needlessly.
    Im sure Decky will explain his call in the other match up but as for the best refs that Ireland has to offer??I have reffed a lot of fights and a lot of shows.Sometimes people dont agree with my calls and thats their own opinion.I can stand by every call I make and explain why I did it.I dont hide from any fighter or coach or promoter after shows and I come on any forum to tell the fans why I did what I did.
    The people that book me know that I treat every fighter/coach/team/promotion equally.I dont care if you are Randy Coture or a first time d class fighter,if Im reffing your fight,you get the same treatment.If I think you have had enough or are in danger of being seriously hurt,it's my job to step in and stop the fight.
    I hope that explains everything to you..........by the way.......does anyone EVER compliment the officials when we do a GOOD job???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    1st off i must congratulate Paul and Clan Wars on a great show and very professional set up, as someone who runs a small promotion without all the frills it was nice to see 1 that is aiming to be a really big promotion running such a professional show, im not into the whole lighting etc thing but to the casual fan it really can big up the feeling of the night so well done on a magnificent show and well done on getting a venue which had great warm areas for each corner.

    My only 1 bad point which i was going to say to you on the night but did'nt because you looked stressed to say the least! During the John Donnelly fight i was shouting advice from the crowd to John such as Kick, Jab, Shoot etc! all pretty standard stuff, 1 of the security lads on duty came over and told me to keep it down, i asked him was he serious and he was!! i was going to get put out for it, i had not even 1 drink so was not doing anything out of order or anything, this sort of security is the sort that agitates people who are otherwise having fun, lucky he did not go up to some drunk person as he may have got a smack..

    On the ref thing, Peter and Decky are 2 of the nicest refs in the business and both are very honest, they will make mistakes in the heat of the moment, sometimes they realise these mistakes straight away and rather than having an ego they accept they made a mistake and let the fight continue, not ideal but at least both fighters fight wont end prematurely, in the fight where the knockdown occured he jumped in to stop it and realised he was in to quick, when he knew the opponent was ok he let it contine, if GnP was part of that fight it would have been over in my opinion but as it was'nt i think it would not have mattered much if Dcky had not jumped in.

    On the Knee to the head, he slumped straight down and the ref done what a lot of refs would do in the circumstance, as far as the Redmond stoppage by peter throwing in the towel, he was spot on, all it done was stop the tough Tim from taking an unnecessary beating, John transitioned to choke as the towel came in and said he felt Tim's body felt limp and the choke was just on.

    Peter by the way, you lads get told how awesome you are all the time on here! take the stick like a man and get your A game in order for Rush next week!! :)

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭pablohoney87


    Id also like to thank Paul and everyone involved in Clan wars for giving our gym and Kristoph the chance to fight on the show. It was run excellently and the fights i saaw were very entertaining.
    I cant speak for declan but in Kristophs fight he did get dropped and when dec went to step in there wouldnt have been any argument from myself or tony. It would have been an early stoppage but not unjustified. I think he would have stopped the fight only for the fact that Kris was up before declan turned around to attend to him. As i said i cant speak for declan though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭IFS.NI


    I would just like to say a huge thanks to everyone who made the show possible, from all the fighters and clubs involved, for the work my own guys put in, the hotel and staff and all the officials and announcers etc on the day and especially to the fans............The fans were excellent and welcomed and applauded all the fighters including the English guys and the Lanzarote guys, this was awesome to see and is what makes it all worth while for us at Clan Wars.


    The feedback has been awesome with everyone asking and emailing about whens the next one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭IFS.NI


    cowzerp wrote: »
    1st off i must congratulate Paul and Clan Wars on a great show and very professional set up, as someone who runs a small promotion without all the frills it was nice to see 1 that is aiming to be a really big promotion running such a professional show, im not into the whole lighting etc thing but to the casual fan it really can big up the feeling of the night so well done on a magnificent show and well done on getting a venue which had great warm areas for each corner.

    My only 1 bad point which i was going to say to you on the night but did'nt because you looked stressed to say the least! During the John Donnelly fight i was shouting advice from the crowd to John such as Kick, Jab, Shoot etc! all pretty standard stuff, 1 of the security lads on duty came over and told me to keep it down, i asked him was he serious and he was!! i was going to get put out for it, i had not even 1 drink so was not doing anything out of order or anything, this sort of security is the sort that agitates people who are otherwise having fun, lucky he did not go up to some drunk person as he may have got a smack..


    Hi Paul

    Was a pleasure having you guys on buddy, John did very well and has come on leaps and bounds.

    You mentioned about the lighting and the razz mataz but that was one of the only things that let us down this time as the lighting man messed up and didnt bring any of the lights he was asked for. That whole frame was supposed to be covered in lights for the effects we like for the show for the intro music but we made do :)

    Regarding the security, I thought they done a fantastic job along with the stewards. We had the security briefed on the high level expected from them - we had the council heavy on for this show doing everything in there power to shut it down, they were going deep into everything and made 3-4 visits trying to find faults plus they approached the head of Police on several occassions also who did a full report on it and even when they got back to the council with full approval and backing from the police the council still pushed it and tried another head constable who basically told them he supported the event and was taking his kids to it lol

    We had everything sorted from all the H&S paper work, insurance, risk assessments and full police support so there was nothing the council could do other than visit on the day still trying and throw a spanner in the works.

    This was why the doormen where trying to keep on top everything which they did very well but perhaps didnt understand the difference between support and rowdyness, they were erring on the side of caution.

    Al in all they done a fantastic job and its the first time I have seen everyone at an MMA event remain seated which made for great viewing pleasure :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭IFS.NI


    Ok now for the other stuff.


    I thought Peter and Decky did a great job as usual, their job is to protect the fighters - these guys have to make split second decessions to ensure fighters safety. Some times their calls do not please everyone but these 2 guys have been round for some time now with a load of experience and are the closest to the action.

    With that said Clan Wars takes all queries onboard and as a professional show will put them all through the proper channels, the ISKA have procedures for these kind of enquiries,

    Connor Dillion has asked for an appeal on the head butt which will be forwarded to the ISKA HQ to which they will decide if there will be anything done on the subject.

    Darren Hughes has asked for a rematch with Peter Duncan so we will keep you all informed on that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭Ryan Roddy


    Hello, first off have to say I thought the show was good, well run and everything!

    In terms of Darrens fight, obviously I will find it hard to take bias out of it as I am his teammate, but...

    In my opinion regardless of whether Darren slipped (and from my view he did slip) or was caught I feel the focus should be on what happened on the floor.

    From what I could see Darren had both his hands up covering his face and was not recieving clear blows to the head, so for me he was intelligently defending himself? I just really dont think Darren was given the chance to even move and I dont see how Peter could make that call without letting it go on the ground for a bit.

    To stop it that quickly Peter would have had to been sure Darren was out of it, but how could he have been sure when:

    A) he didnt give it any time
    B) darren clearly had both his hands up

    I have probably said to much already but I should point out a few things:

    Peter is a well respected guy and he generally does a great job so I would never hold this against him ( I just think this was a bad call). Being an MMA ref is pretty thankless and Im sure Peter was only trying to protect darren.

    Peter has been in the game alot longer than me, and has probably forgot more about this sport than I even know! so his opinion is more valuable than mine.

    I am a teammate of Darrens so my opinion is never going to be completley objective! Plus there is nothing we can do about it now.

    Congrats on the win for Peter duncan, and I hope Darren gets a rematch!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭weemate


    Ryan Roddy wrote: »
    Hello, first off have to say I thought the show was good, well run and everything!

    In terms of Darrens fight, obviously I will find it hard to take bias out of it as I am his teammate, but...

    In my opinion regardless of whether Darren slipped (and from my view he did slip) or was caught I feel the focus should be on what happened on the floor.

    From what I could see Darren had both his hands up covering his face and was not recieving clear blows to the head, so for me he was intelligently defending himself? I just really dont think Darren was given the chance to even move and I dont see how Peter could make that call without letting it go on the ground for a bit.

    To stop it that quickly Peter would have had to been sure Darren was out of it, but how could he have been sure when:

    A) he didnt give it any time
    B) darren clearly had both his hands up

    I have probably said to much already but I should point out a few things:

    Peter is a well respected guy and he generally does a great job so I would never hold this against him ( I just think this was a bad call). Being an MMA ref is pretty thankless and Im sure Peter was only trying to protect darren.

    Peter has been in the game alot longer than me, and has probably forgot more about this sport than I even know! so his opinion is more valuable than mine.

    I am a teammate of Darrens so my opinion is never going to be completley objective! Plus there is nothing we can do about it now.

    Congrats on the win for Peter duncan, and I hope Darren gets a rematch!
    firstly Ryan,
    I hope Darren isnt too fooked off with me over the call.I have always respected him as a fighter an a friend.Now,as for the call.To be honest looking at it in hindsight I think I was actually too close to teh fighters at the point that Darren was kneed.I saw him drop and stepped in,now I imagine that had I been at the other side of the cage or even a few feet away by the time I had stepped in he may have recovered.regardless of that,he did go down heavy and I based my call on what I saw.Maybe he will get the re-match and redress the decision.
    As for the headbutt.....Paul..Im sorry but it was a blatant violation of the rules.it wasnt a glance,it was full contact with the head.Too many guys have spoken to me on teh subject today.it was on camera and I was close enough to the fight to hear and see it.I think to get this or even try to have the call over ruled is nonsense.It undermines the refs position and basicly is saying that my job is pointless.As you said,I have been around a long time and have a shade of experience in what I do.If someone breaks the rules then they have to accept the consequenses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭IFS.NI


    weemate wrote: »
    I think to get this or even try to have the call over ruled is nonsense.It undermines the refs position and basicly is saying that my job is pointless.As you said,I have been around a long time and have a shade of experience in what I do.If someone breaks the rules then they have to accept the consequenses.


    Hi Peter,

    Think you have mis-understood mate, I am not the one looking to change anything.

    I stand by your decessions and agree with you,I am not trying to get it appealed or changed but Connor is, but no matter what I think everyone has the right to appeal. People can appeal anything in any sport but thats not to say it will pass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭weemate


    Paul,there were enough cameras and screens around the hall and the matter was clearly watched by all concerned.I spoke to Conor after,as I usually do with fighters who have a dispute,I went looking for Darren as well but I couldnt find him....mind you I was more concerned about Tim at that stage.He knew he had messed up,accident or not,it is clearly stated in the rules...all rules that is ,not just the ISKA ruling,that a headbutt is an automatic dq.To even ask for an appeal is silly.
    Now I have put my hands up to the Darren/Peter incident,and have publicly stated on this forum and to both guys that it was my fault the fight was stopped and even though I stand by my decision,I can see their point of view and I hope that they will give me an opportunity to put the matter to rest by reffing any re-match ut I cant sit by and see a clear breach of the rules be brought into question.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭Ryan Roddy


    I dont reckon Darren would hold that against you Peter, these things happen and at the end of the day u were only doing what you felt was right at the time! I was just putting my own view of it across, I could watch it again and think completely differently about it but thats how it looked to me at the time.

    Its difficult not to to feel biased towards a teammate as you will know yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 TJHOOKER


    Great prodution from the Clan Wars crew and some great fights. Really enjoyed the show. The only downside, I have to agree with Cowz. I heard several people comment on how rude and aggressive the security were.

    Duncan and Reid were both excellent!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 conor dillon


    well peter hows it going. dillon here. first of all i would just like to say no hard feelings over what happended you are there to do a job n you did it al doe butt of only an accident ... thats the way it goes . i just happy it was a good fight any very good experiense. when i went pro my ambision was to go undefied at pro any fight i took . only thing that is disapointing that it will go on my record as a loss even doe i was cleanly was winning and only ten seconds to go.and obvously a **** 4 da fans...... but thats life ha . i think the show was ran very well and will be lukin 4ward to fighting again. as 4 bougesz he a very tought fighter was very hard fight and i repect him. as 4 paul n chris cant fault them in any way was savage set up. peter gentle man as allways take it easy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭IFS.NI


    TJHOOKER wrote: »
    Great prodution from the Clan Wars crew and some great fights. Really enjoyed the show. The only downside, I have to agree with Cowz. I heard several people comment on how rude and aggressive the security were.

    Duncan and Reid were both excellent!

    Hi Buddy, Glad you enjoyed the show, which club were you along with?

    As for the security mate, please read my reply to Paul a few posts up,I thought they did an excellent job under the circumstances.

    Anyhow thanks for coming and we hope to see you again!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭mark.leonard


    well peter hows it going. dillon here. first of all i would just like to say no hard feelings over what happended you are there to do a job n you did it al doe butt of only an accident ... thats the way it goes . i just happy it was a good fight any very good experiense. when i went pro my ambision was to go undefied at pro any fight i took . only thing that is disapointing that it will go on my record as a loss even doe i was cleanly was winning and only ten seconds to go.and obvously a **** 4 da fans...... but thats life ha . i think the show was ran very well and will be lukin 4ward to fighting again. as 4 bougesz he a very tought fighter was very hard fight and i repect him. as 4 paul n chris cant fault them in any way was savage set up. peter gentle man as allways take it easy.

    great fight the last day I thought you were doing excellently and said as much in the commentary, gave your opponent no chance to escape, possibly to the detriment of the damage you were dealing, but still a good strategy!
    I found it hard to read your post above as I am not up to speed on txt spk (by the way txt spk is against boards rules, you need to use full words and spell them correctly on the main here, just an fyi as I know you are a new poster).

    A question I have to ask you though is, how did the headbutt come about? I know you splashed him a lot to loosen his grip earlier, but in that instance he was already flat on the mat and you were sitting up, was it just a rush of blood or were you trying something else that didn't come off?


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