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Get rid of aisling o loughlin from Expose!!!!

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    Asking to have something banned or taken down from the internet usually results in loads more people seeing the page than would have if you'd left well enough alone.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

    Surprised Tom O'C wasn't mentioned there. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭SoupyNorman


    Ms O'Loughlin said her decision to pursue the matter was not motivated by her own victimisation but by the "lack of policing of cyberspace".

    Tomorrows headline:


    'Aisling O'Loughlin(31) gets internets laws implemented.'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭SoupyNorman


    Hank_Jones wrote: »
    Surprised Tom O'C wasn't mentioned there. :D


    This This This


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭JerryHandbag


    Facebook group member list growing by the hour....Aisling you silly girl :p

    Great publicity for her, now people might actually recognise her on the street!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭Cheap Thrills!


    tinkerbell wrote: »
    Just read the other closed AH thread on this from yesterday .... there's a quote that somebody posted and it says: "I'm a journalist, not a model and the configuration of my features or my wardrobe choices really don't matter in the greater scheme of things."

    In fairness, she's on a show about FASHION, not the six-one news. Although even those on the six-one news always dress good. So she has to look good otherwise she'll get criticism, what does she expect? How come the other girls on Xposé usually look good and dress suitably yet she can't?

    Aisling - change the hairstyle and go hire a stylist. Problem solved. If you wanna be in a job where people don't care about how you look, then get a job in radio or something.

    But really, there's no excuse for the horrible clothes she wears on Xposé. There is nothing wrong with her appearance (as in her looks) but her hairstyle does not suit her and neither do those clothes.

    THANK YOU.

    I couldn't believe it when she wrote that. The outfits she wears are likely picked by a stylist. The others in the show are all pretty bar Gilson who is neither pretty nor classically beautiful but attractive or 'striking'

    AOL is ordinary and therefore the stylists have obviously sttempted to style her as 'quirky' or 'interesting' but it hasn't worked. Trapeze shaped garments and tulip line raw silk, corsages and chiffon look all wrong on her.

    The hair is dreadful, the problem is she has very fine hair and the other women mostly have cascading big Kelly Brook hair. They've taken her from a wishy washy shoulder length blunt fringed bob to this attempt at 'elfin' but she doesn't have 'elfin' features. She needs something slightly softer to help her look feminine. She's not Annie Lennox or Halle Berry, she's an ordinary, slightly Mumsy woman. Besides the pixie/elfin haircut is terribly dated.

    This is all fair comment and so was the FB page, her job is fashion. She wouldn't have to look like a model if she was a designer/photographer etc but she is a PRESENTER on a fashion show...looking hot is part of the brief. The world of fashion IS shallow and trivial, it's not cuddly and kind.

    Pile of bull$hit but it's her chosen career so she'd want to wise up. As it is now she is just pity fodder.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭Jesus Juice


    Many a person has fought the interwebz, all have failed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,710 ✭✭✭RoadKillTs


    Many a person has fought the interwebz, all have failed.

    Well said.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Asking to have something banned or taken down from the internet usually results in loads more people seeing the page than would have if you'd left well enough alone.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

    1) Start own website
    2) Issue calls for it to be taken down
    3) PROFIT !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭SoupyNorman


    RoadKillTs wrote: »
    Well said.


    Hrmmm, thats just what I was thinking.

    Have we met ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭Wolflikeme


    Not much trouble in setting up FB group, couple of clicks really.

    By definition a campaign is extended and sustained advocacy of something through multiple media outlets which this isnt.


    Fair enough. What is it then? I just feel it's a personal campaign then, or vendetta (strong word I know!). I mean would you hate somebody enough that you felt you needed to create FB page to ridicule somebody you don't know? There's something wrong there. It's actually really pathetic.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭Wolflikeme


    Ms O'Loughlin said her decision to pursue the matter was not motivated by her own victimisation but by the "lack of policing of cyberspace".

    Sure it was. I wonder will she be policing t'internet in her spare time...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    You're in the public eye, you're gonna get people who don't like/resent/get pissed-off at/begrudge you. Grow a fucking second skin, or get off the television.

    Besides, the kind of dreck that watches Expose aren't worth getting annoyed at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Wolflikeme wrote: »
    Fair enough. What is it then? I just feel it's a personal campaign then, or vendetta (strong word I know!). I mean would you hate somebody enough that you felt you needed to create FB page to ridicule somebody you don't know? There's something wrong there. It's actually really pathetic.

    What's the opposite of a fan? I dislike certain people in the public eye.. not saying that I'd set up a page about it but I don't necessarily believe there's anything wrong with it


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Many a person has fought the interwebz, all have failed.
    Yea right. Tell that to the blogger in Ireland who was hit with a 100grand legal bill after being sued over the content. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/ireland/article7009820.ece Tell that to other bloggers who have been sued and fined http://www.google.ie/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&source=hp&q=blogger+fined&meta=&btnG=Google+Search Tell that to this very website who were sued by a concert promoter. That went well for the site, but it was no means a given that it would. Tell that to the people sued and fined for downloading warez.

    This notion that the interwebz is king and untouchable is a patent nonsense and is going to be more and more a nonsense in the future. You will own your words more and more as time goes on. The new frontier was passed long ago.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭Wolflikeme


    What's the opposite of a fan? I dislike certain people in the public eye.. not saying that I'd set up a page about it but I don't necessarily believe there's anything wrong with it

    True. People don't go to football matches to hate another team, rather to support their own*.

    It'd be pretty sad if they did. Just as (though it may not be wrong, but I'm still not advocating it) I find it pathetic that people would bother.


    *Football perhaps isn't the best example.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Wolflikeme wrote: »
    Sure it was. I wonder will she be policing t'internet in her spare time...
    Oh I agree, but more and more you hear this guff about the web particularly in Ireland. Gerry Ryan was always on about it. That kneejerk, uninformed and hype laden won't someone think of the children ballsology he was well reknowned for.

    This country whether we like it or not has always had those in power wanting control of the media and their image in it from the very foundation of this state. DeValera and his familiy and minions controlled it very tightly. Yes it has eased up, but for how long? Add in that as a culture we seem to have more affinity than most with being told whats good for us and I guarantee if more controls on the interwebz went to a public vote chances are it would carry.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    Many a person has fought the interwebz, all have failed.

    They are really fighting large amounts of people on the internet though.
    So it's basically one person against boards, 4chan, or whatever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭SoupyNorman


    Wolflikeme wrote: »
    Fair enough. What is it then?

    A Facebook page.
    Wolflikeme wrote: »
    It's actually really pathetic.

    You can also argue that running off to tell the guards is a equally pathetic.


    Just keeping quiet would have made this go away. Sure if she joined the group herself it would have been checkmate to the 'V for vendetta' folk.



    I getting VERY agitated that this nothing of a story is going to give Ivor a slight reprieve.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Wolflikeme wrote: »
    True. People don't go to football matches to hate another team, rather to support their own*.

    It'd be pretty sad if they did. Just as (though it may not be wrong, but I'm still not advocating it) I find it pathetic that people would bother.


    *Football perhaps isn't the best example.

    I get what you're saying, and do agree to a certain point. I mean you'd need to be hard pressed to bother going to the hassle of setting a group up in the first place, but I don't think there should be any legal or moral reaon why somebody can't do it if they so wish

    Detractors gonna detract!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭Wolflikeme


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Oh I agree, but more and more you hear this guff about the web particularly in Ireland. Gerry Ryan was always on about it. That kneejerk, uninformed and hype laden won't someone think of the children ballsology he was well reknowned for.

    This country whether we like it or not has always had those in power wanting control of the media and their image in it from the very foundation of this state. DeValera and his familiy and minions controlled it very tightly. Yes it has eased up, but for how long? Add in that as a culture we seem to have more affinity than most with being told whats good for us and I guarantee if more controls on the interwebz went to a public vote chances are it would carry.

    Good post. I totally agree.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I get what you're saying, and do agree to a certain point. I mean you'd need to be hard pressed to bother going to the hassle of setting a group up in the first place, but I don't think there should be any legal or moral reaon why somebody can't do it if they so wish
    Maybe, but if there's the sniff of money and gloating and control and the case is put to some out of touch superannuated judge who doesnt know what the internet is(oh that's where they have pron and kiddie fiddlers), then the defence of "free speech"(which we don't have nearly as much as we like to think) could land you with a large fine and legal bill.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 827 ✭✭✭Wolflikeme


    I get what you're saying, and do agree to a certain point. I mean you'd need to be hard pressed to bother going to the hassle of setting a group up in the first place, but I don't think there should be any legal or moral reaon why somebody can't do it if they so wish

    Detractors gonna detract!

    I agree also. I'm just trying to look at it objectively as I can. I don't think constraints are warranted (far from it!). I'm just looking at it in 'why' kind of way. :)

    And I understand if she's a bit hurt by it. She went about it all wrong and pretending to be some sort of 'anit-internet bully' campaigner is bollocks!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    "Agenda" is a bit of a weighted word. "Fleeting interest of the negative variety" might be more apt in this instance. The 65 people who joined that page are probably just a little bored and possibly a little frustrated in their jobs (if they're lucky enough to have one). They look at you interviewing stars on the red carpet, or jumping out of someone's wardrobe, and they think "Man, she's got a great job, I'd love that job, I bet I COULD DO SO MUCH BETTER at that job!" and so on. Thing is, hand them a microphone in front of a baying crowd in Leicester Square and they'd self-combust.

    That's it, insult the people who have joined the page,
    that's going to make things better.

    Foolish woman. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭Cheap Thrills!


    'hate' is way too strong of a word for that webpage, it was more like mild dissapproval.

    Her reaction was way OTT, her hyperbolic use of the word 'dangerous' and phrases like 'stabbed through the heart' were disingenous. Jesus.

    It was like she was trying to piggy back off that Phoebe case in America but she misjudged it BADLY.

    She's made herself look ridiculous and no doubt this is going to draw down far more vitriol and ridicule than the original FB page ever did. :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Wolflikeme wrote: »
    I agree also. I'm just trying to look at it objectively as I can. I don't think constraints are warranted (far from it!). I'm just looking at it in 'why' kind of way. :)
    I reckon as with all this stuff, follow the money. You could say what you liked when it was a bunch of nerds discussing WoW. They "didnt matter" or were even noticed by the mainstream. But when the mainstream is buying and selling the very stock of the internet and making billions on the back of it, they will want control over that. The next thing I predict that will be hit is copyright. You hotlink to a paid for page or post text etc from that page and you could be hit for copyright theft*. A poster here does that already when he converts a paid for page to a jpg for is all to read. Very grey area. Then you could have issues over copyright on sites like this.
    And I understand if she's a bit hurt by it. She went about it all wrong and pretending to be some sort of 'anit-internet bully' campaigner is bollocks!
    Oh yea but that guff has currency among your Joe Duffy/Gerry Ryan housewives, oul wans and oul fella types. They dont fully understand the new media and as a result are suspicious or downright belligerent about it. They see "that lovely woman" being insulted and bullied and they'll conflate that with facebook bullying that resulted in suicides and the moral decay of porn and "kiddie fiddlers use the web and they show them how to take druuugz y'know" and you have a nice little perfect storm building up. Even among relatively rational if ill informed people. You see more of those doom stories than the real good communities like this can do too.

    Those in positions of power who are more likely to be put under the silicon microscope will be only too happy to fan those flames and bring in legislation to deal with it.

    We forget that majority of those on this website and those like it are more informed and comfortable with this medium than the majority outside of it. Even the "Ive got pics of my fat kids on facebook" Johnnies. We're the equivalent of people who like and understand cars. They're the equivalent of people who use cars from A to B and making buying decisions on the colour of the seats. The latter think all crashes are caused by "souped up cars" and the authorities will follow them on that.



    *not a lawyer bod so the terms are likely arseways.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭Dennis the Stone


    Just wondering would Aisling or the Cyberpolice actually have some way of backtracing these comments?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭Anita Blow


    Just wondering would Aisling or the Cyberpolice actually have some way of backtracing these comments?

    I'm not sure, but all I know is that if they could, consequences would never be the same


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    lol the group has more than doubled in a day because of the attention she's brought to it. The fact that there aren't more people joining it just shows how uninterested people are in her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    It has to be said I was genuinely suprised by the lack of hate in the page itself - its almost affectionate in its mockery with the whole "pixey" thing. If this whinging is her PR's idea of a way to raise her profile, she really should get better advice.


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