Ivor Callely (take III)

Liam Byrne · 04-08-2010 12:35PM

SoupyNorman wrote: »

In contrast, Willie O Dea is probably more popular then ever in Limerick now then ever

Where the hell did you get that idea ?

bamboozle · 04-08-2010 12:55PM

MrDarcy wrote: »

I have to say Murph, I always had this view about rural constituents, the likes of whom I always blamed for returning corrupt failures like Beverly Cooper Flynn and Michael Lowry back into office.

It was only this weekend, in the middle of the scandal that is revolving around Callely, that I found out that even after he had lost his Dail seat in 2007, over 7,000 of his constituents still were prepared to give him a first preference vote, knowing that had had been fired from his junior ministry for having his house painted for free by a company that was engaged with public contract work!!!

You can only stand back at this stage in confusion, awe, wonder and amazement, and wonder what can be done about this endemic problem that we seem to have in Ireland with, "do as I say, not do as I do"...

I'm sickened to my heart to find myself living in Ireland where nothing will ever change for the better, it's like waking up one morning and finding that someone has abducted you during the night, cut open your neighbours septic tank, dropped you into it, and welding it back up again. As for change, don't make me laugh, only a few weeks ago, Enda Kenny was promising any clown in his party who would support him, a front bench position.

So we now have a situation where the first line of defence against government stupidity was a congretation of characters whose only qualification in the immediate sense, was that they supported Enda Kenny.

Say we said that we should in the first instance, look to attributes like DEMONSTRATION of sound experience and work ethic, (as opposed to just "experience" in it's own right), one man who would not make the house never mind the front bench, would be Michael Noonan. A failed leader of the party, who has a record of threatening Hep C victims on their death beds that he would fight them through every court in Europe to defend their claims that they had suffered premature death through blood products that the state KNEW were contaminated.

Ok I know this thread is about Callely, I'm just hostile at the fact that there is no point in protesting about Callely or any of the rest of them, the whole lot of them are one and the same thing.

as a dublin north central constituent myself it really is a FF strong hold, Sean Haughey continues to get re-elected on his father's name(i've emailed Sean several times over the last 18 months still awaiting a reply) Ivor got 7k votes although he topped the polls previously with over 20k votes, not sure how maybe lots of people around were won over by his family-photo christmas cards we were subjected to on an annual basis.

BTW, Sean Haughey to my knowledge, has never even lived in Dublin North Central.

mowhawk · 04-08-2010 04:15PM

MrDarcy wrote: »

I have to say Murph, I always had this view about rural constituents, the likes of whom I always blamed for returning corrupt failures like Beverly Cooper Flynn and Michael Lowry back into office.

It was only this weekend, in the middle of the scandal that is revolving around Callely, that I found out that even after he had lost his Dail seat in 2007, over 7,000 of his constituents still were prepared to give him a first preference vote, knowing that had had been fired from his junior ministry for having his house painted for free by a company that was engaged with public contract work!!!

From the Irish Indo:

Ah well, that's okay then...

By Ian O'Doherty

Wednesday October 07 2009

When you consider that a disgraced weasel like Bertie Ahern is actually considering running for President, it becomes clear that there is something seriously wrong with our national psyche.

And the current scandal with the Gombeen O'Donoghue is another example of what a rotten little kip Ireland has become.

He may have billed the taxpayer for an astonishing amount of money for an astonishing variety of reasons -- sleeping pills for a long flight? Seriously? -- and he may have all the swagger of some big, thick farmer who has the largest plot of land in the parish, but he's not all bad, no siree Bob.

Because according to the gap-toothed rural simpletons who voted for him, O'Donoghue is a grand man altogether.

Indeed, as one of them says: "There isn't a word of good about the good things he did for Kerry. He did us a power of good. All the GAA clubs and some rowing clubs would have been greatly helped by him."

There you go then -- he may be an arrogant shyster without any apparent sense of honour (a decent man would have resigned on a point of principle) but at least he made sure some bogtrotters got a new clubhouse for their GAA club.

No smoke without fire!

Onearmedbandit · 04-08-2010 05:05PM

RTE's headlines: Aib results, carbon monoxide deaths and a horse whisperer. What a joke of a broadcaster not a word about Ivor yet.

changes · 04-08-2010 05:20PM

I'm sure there is room for him in mountjoy when that guy who didn't pay his dog licence gets out.....

...oh wait, he's the wrong class for that!

...off scot free and retire on a big pension... i think thats what i'm meant??

dan_d · 04-08-2010 07:16PM

mowhawk wrote: »

Because according to the gap-toothed rural simpletons who voted for him, O'Donoghue is a grand man altogether.

Indeed, as one of them says: "There isn't a word of good about the good things he did for Kerry. He did us a power of good. All the GAA clubs and some rowing clubs would have been greatly helped by him."

There you go then -- he may be an arrogant shyster without any apparent sense of honour (a decent man would have resigned on a point of principle) but at least he made sure some bogtrotters got a new clubhouse for their GAA club.

No smoke without fire!

And right there - that's the entire reason why members of the Government should be cut off from local politics. Parochial politics rule in Ireland, and until we seperate the Gov from the local town hall, our politicians will continue to behave like this - they know all they'll have to do is spruce up the local street lights to get back into Government.

the_dark_side · 04-08-2010 08:26PM

meanwhile the country goes quickly down the swanee.. the sooner Callely and his miserable 3k are out of the fking news, and out of people's heads, the sooner they can get on with steering this country out of the hurricane. Callely has proven himself to be a shady dealer.. he will never regain credibility..
P.S. With the world looking on, how must it appear that there is such public outrage at a man who (allegedly) defrauded 3k from the state, when the NAMA figures and Anglo figures are what they are. Its a bit embarrassing to be honest. 3k would change 1 tyre on a Wall Street broker's private jet.

Scarab80 · 04-08-2010 08:53PM

Onearmedbandit wrote: »

RTE's headlines: Aib results, carbon monoxide deaths and a horse whisperer. What a joke of a broadcaster not a word about Ivor yet.

I wonder how RTE bosses expense claims on licence payer fees measure up.

goat2 · 04-08-2010 09:26PM

bamboozle wrote: »

as a dublin north central constituent myself it really is a FF strong hold, Sean Haughey continues to get re-elected on his father's name(i've emailed Sean several times over the last 18 months still awaiting a reply) Ivor got 7k votes although he topped the polls previously with over 20k votes, not sure how maybe lots of people around were won over by his family-photo christmas cards we were subjected to on an annual basis.

BTW, Sean Haughey to my knowledge, has never even lived in Dublin North Central.

did he pay for the christmas card design and postage, or was that also claimed as an expense,
just a thought

bamboozle · 05-08-2010 07:58AM

goat2 wrote: »

did he pay for the christmas card design and postage, or was that also claimed as an expense,
just a thought

funny you should ask it was neither, he decided not to pay....

But Mr Callely's controversies are well known and so familiar at this stage to be almost boring -- the house that he got painted for free by a construction company and the offer of a car to a personal assistant who wanted to leave.
One of the more recent was the €17,500 bill he allegedly owed to a Dublin company which was fighting for survival. Future Print had printed political literature for Mr Callely, as well as 50,000 calling cards -- which were used to show voters he had visited their house in his Dublin North Central constituency. Mr Callely denied that he owed the company any money.
But he won't have to worry about it any more. Future Print closed last month with the loss of 110 jobs, citing a slowdown in business and "bad debts" as some of the reasons for its failure.

Hootanany · 05-08-2010 08:38AM

Have the cops not lifted him yet

bamboozle wrote: »

funny you should ask it was neither, he decided not to pay....

But Mr Callely's controversies are well known and so familiar at this stage to be almost boring -- the house that he got painted for free by a construction company and the offer of a car to a personal assistant who wanted to leave.
One of the more recent was the €17,500 bill he allegedly owed to a Dublin company which was fighting for survival. Future Print had printed political literature for Mr Callely, as well as 50,000 calling cards -- which were used to show voters he had visited their house in his Dublin North Central constituency. Mr Callely denied that he owed the company any money.
But he won't have to worry about it any more. Future Print closed last month with the loss of 110 jobs, citing a slowdown in business and "bad debts" as some of the reasons for its failure.

ciagr297 · 05-08-2010 08:49AM

according to breaking news http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/garda-commissioner-contacts-seanad-over-callely-468040.html

whether anything will come of it or not remains to be seen

paddyland · 05-08-2010 10:01AM

The Gardaí are currently considering what action is required by them in the context of the allegations...

Mark my words, in a month's time, we will be told DPP 'decides' not to proceed with a prosecution...

gbee · 05-08-2010 11:33AM

My local news this AM 'Callely has gone to ground. Even the Taoiseach cannot contact him. Gardaí have been informed'

donkey balls · 05-08-2010 01:17PM

gbee wrote: »

My local news this AM 'Callely has gone to ground. Even the Taoiseach cannot contact him. Gardaí have been informed'

even after ivor was buying top end mobile phones at 750e a pop:rolleyes: which brings me to my next question wtf are we given these morans 750e to buy a mobile(top end ).
even the new iphone 4 which sim free costs 690e yet if your on bill pay the network will subsidise it from 0-300e, can the people of north central dublin please ensure for our futures sake that his son never gets elected please:mad:.
by jaysus i would never vote for the little scrawny b*ll*x, and come the next election when leni&co are canvasing around my area i will let them know what i think of them. sorry mods for flying off the the rail it makes my blood boil when so many of us are on reduced hours/salary and this f**ker thinks he answers to no one.

andrewire · 05-08-2010 01:39PM

donkey balls wrote: »

even after ivor was buying top end mobile phones at 750e a pop:rolleyes: which brings me to my next question wtf are we given these morans 750e to buy a mobile(top end ).
even the new iphone 4 which sim free costs 690e yet if your on bill pay the network will subsidise it from 0-300e, can the people of north central dublin please ensure for our futures sake that his son never gets elected please:mad:.
by jaysus i would never vote for the little scrawny b*ll*x, and come the next election when leni&co are canvasing around my area i will let them know what i think of them. sorry mods for flying off the the rail it makes my blood boil when so many of us are on reduced hours/salary and this f**ker thinks he answers to no one.

I agree. What about the default €250 in insurance? Sounds bogus to me.

donkey balls · 05-08-2010 01:45PM

250e for insurance is that for his boat or mobile phone:rolleyes: i recently got quoted 6e per month for phone insurance which is 6x12= 72e not 250e jesus i think my house insurance is less than his phone insurance:mad:

bamboozle · 05-08-2010 02:19PM

i think the big question Ivor really has to answer is who he'll be supporting in the all ireland semi final between Cork (the county where he lives) and Dublin (the county where he lives)

donkey balls · 05-08-2010 02:23PM

bamboozle wrote: »

i think the big question Ivor really has to answer is who he'll be supporting in the all ireland semi final between Cork (the county where he lives) and Dublin (the county where he lives)

i can tell you one thing myself and the lads wont be welcoming him onto the hill:D

goat2 · 05-08-2010 02:28PM

bamboozle wrote: »

funny you should ask it was neither, he decided not to pay....

But Mr Callely's controversies are well known and so familiar at this stage to be almost boring -- the house that he got painted for free by a construction company and the offer of a car to a personal assistant who wanted to leave.
One of the more recent was the €17,500 bill he allegedly owed to a Dublin company which was fighting for survival. Future Print had printed political literature for Mr Callely, as well as 50,000 calling cards -- which were used to show voters he had visited their house in his Dublin North Central constituency. Mr Callely denied that he owed the company any money.
But he won't have to worry about it any more. Future Print closed last month with the loss of 110 jobs, citing a slowdown in business and "bad debts" as some of the reasons for its failure.

christmas cards are something you send to family and very close friends, and these are personal ,
should be paid for by himself,
if he did not, then this is really using the taxpayer to the hilt
mobile phones can be purchased for 50 euro
and if you are upgrading it would be same
that is not accepatble to be buying top brands, just because a person is not footing the bills themselves

donkey balls · 05-08-2010 02:51PM

goat2 wrote: »

christmas cards are something you send to family and very close friends, and these are personal ,
should be paid for by himself,
if he did not, then this is really using the taxpayer to the hilt
mobile phones can be purchased for 50 euro
and if you are upgrading it would be same
that is not accepatble to be buying top brands, just because a person is not footing the bills themselves

very true i have been on courses through work in the UK&Ireland and was allways mindfull of my expenses both as a manager and employee,but it looks like our political elite dont think the same.
the expense system needs to be overhauled big time i just had a quick look at Leo Varadker expense for comms it came to 6000e plus, i mean who are they calling here is the link http://www.leovaradkar.ie/wp-content/docs/expenses2009.pdf some mobile operators for a fee of 80/90e let you make upto 10,000 voice calls a month, i mean if they are buzy in meetings all the time how can they be on their mobys:rolleyes: also with our so called smart economy why dont our TD's that have broadband use the Likes of Skype.

the_dark_side · 05-08-2010 06:39PM

this could all end very badly... this article is worth a look

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/shane-phelan-this-building-was-meant-to-be-the-making-of-callely--now-his-careers-crumbling-2284745.html

Id say there are more than a few members of government who splurged on investment property in the last 5-6 years

henryporter · 05-08-2010 06:52PM

goat2 wrote: »

christmas cards are something you send to family and very close friends, and these are personal ,
should be paid for by himself,
if he did not, then this is really using the taxpayer to the hilt
mobile phones can be purchased for 50 euro
and if you are upgrading it would be same
that is not accepatble to be buying top brands, just because a person is not footing the bills themselves

I know - I was in a meting this week with an extremely odious County Councillor who was boasting about getting his new Blackberry, and the best bit was that he didn't have to pay for it.

donkey balls · 05-08-2010 07:39PM

the_dark_side wrote: »

this could all end very badly... this article is worth a look

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/shane-phelan-this-building-was-meant-to-be-the-making-of-callely--now-his-careers-crumbling-2284745.html

Id say there are more than a few members of government who splurged on investment property in the last 5-6 years

from memory frank fahey and donnie cassidy said a few years ago that NOW was the time to jump on the property market,i was listening to dan twitter boyle earlier on the last word is there not a law regarding been made bankrupt that you cannot hold down a seat in the dail/senate.
no wonder RTE probely never went after the class act from castlebar for costs during her libel case against them.

murphaph · 05-08-2010 07:46PM

the_dark_side wrote: »

this could all end very badly... this article is worth a look

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/shane-phelan-this-building-was-meant-to-be-the-making-of-callely--now-his-careers-crumbling-2284745.html

Id say there are more than a few members of government who splurged on investment property in the last 5-6 years

I'm not one to gloat but he was too clever for his own good. I might feel some sympathy for him if hae wasn't thieving from us all to try to cover his own mistakes.

donkey balls · 05-08-2010 08:01PM

just watched RTE1 primetime is doing a special about him and the self governance of the dail/seanad.

Sulmac · 05-08-2010 08:31PM

donkey balls wrote: »

from memory frank fahey and donnie cassidy said a few years ago that NOW was the time to jump on the property market,i was listening to dan twitter boyle earlier on the last word is there not a law regarding been made bankrupt that you cannot hold down a seat in the dail/senate.
no wonder RTE probely never went after the class act from castlebar for costs during her libel case against them.

Indeed, there is!

Dáil:

You are disqualified from membership of Dáil Éireann if:
You are not a citizen of Ireland

You have not yet reached 21 years of age

You are a member of a local authority

You are a member of the European Commission or are a judge, advocate general or registrar of the European Court of Justice

You are a member of the Court of Auditors of the European Community

You are a member of the Garda Síochána

You are a full-time member of the Defence Forces

You are a civil servant and it does not specifically state in your contract of employment that you may be a member of the Dáil

You are a person of unsound mind

You are presently in prison serving a term greater than 6 months

You are an undischarged bankrupt

You are the President, a member of the Seanad, the Comptroller and Auditor General or a Judge.

Seanad:

To become a Senator you must be
A citizen of Ireland

Over 21 years old

You must not be:
Serving a prison sentence of more than 6 months

An undischarged bankrupt

A person of unsound mind

A judge

A senior official of the European Union

A civil servant

A member of the Defence Forces or the Gardaí

donkey balls · 05-08-2010 08:43PM

thanks for the linky sulmac i have to laugh at the one, off a person of unsound mind i reckon there is a few that are like that both in the dail/seaned:rolleyes:

punchdrunk · 05-08-2010 09:01PM

the_dark_side wrote: »

this could all end very badly... this article is worth a look

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/shane-phelan-this-building-was-meant-to-be-the-making-of-callely--now-his-careers-crumbling-2284745.html

Id say there are more than a few members of government who splurged on investment property in the last 5-6 years

...wonder did he get a fixed rate mortgage or variable?

donkey balls · 05-08-2010 09:09PM

punchdrunk wrote: »

...wonder did he get a fixed rate mortgage or variable?

or a tracker mortgage:rolleyes: by jaysus if thisf**Ker is not shown the door or charged with fraud, i will make sure for the rest of my living life i will never vote for FF and if i ever have kids they will be told about these b,stads and how they screwed the tax payer.:mad:

Ivor Callely (take III)

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