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UPC Remote Control Issues

  • 27-07-2010 12:33AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭


    There's just the one HD box so far AFAIK. The guide and menus are more or less identical, but it doesn't have the remote control brokenness that the Thomson STBs suffer from.
    Err I'm afraid I've had RC issues with the HD Cisco STB. They have been resolved but they do exist.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    To be honest its really poor. Removing entertainment just beggard belief, who is responsible for passing these designs? When I think back on some of the Linux EPG's they really were a joy to use. Maybe this EPG isn't so bad, but just VERY badly optimised for the hardware.

    Anyway I was hoping it would fix the remote contol issue I'm having with my PVR (non HD), it doesn't. For me the system is unuseable, I can't browse through the guide, as the down arrow functions as the up arrow a lot of the time, page down brings me into the recorded programms section, up arrow selects the channel to watch...and they all mix around. This happens EVERY time, not intermittently, I might get a button to function for a few presses, but it WILL mess up, guaranteed.

    I've heard people mentioning remote issues here, are they the same as mine? I've had UPC less than a week, the broadband so far has been bulletproof...have to say I wasn't expecting remote control issues of all things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    EnterNow wrote: »
    I've heard people mentioning remote issues here, are they the same as mine? I've had UPC less than a week, the broadband so far has been bulletproof...have to say I wasn't expecting remote control issues of all things.

    It sounds similar to problems others have had, but seems a bit more extreme than usual. The issue seems to be caused by infrared emissions from the CCFL backlights used in LCD TVs - severity of the problem will vary between different sets, location, etc. Putting masking tape over the remote sensor on the STB can reduce the problem (it worked for me with the old silver Thomson DVR).

    @Eamo71: I didn't know the Cisco box had this problem too, I guess I got lucky. Was this fixed in a firmware update or was something else done to resolve the issue?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭dunworth1


    EnterNow wrote: »
    To be honest its really poor. Removing entertainment just beggard belief, who is responsible for passing these designs? When I think back on some of the Linux EPG's they really were a joy to use. Maybe this EPG isn't so bad, but just VERY badly optimised for the hardware.

    Anyway I was hoping it would fix the remote contol issue I'm having with my PVR (non HD), it doesn't. For me the system is unuseable, I can't browse through the guide, as the down arrow functions as the up arrow a lot of the time, page down brings me into the recorded programms section, up arrow selects the channel to watch...and they all mix around. This happens EVERY time, not intermittently, I might get a button to function for a few presses, but it WILL mess up, guaranteed.

    I've heard people mentioning remote issues here, are they the same as mine? I've had UPC less than a week, the broadband so far has been bulletproof...have to say I wasn't expecting remote control issues of all things.

    i havent heard of issues like that with the remote.
    id give them a ring.
    the normal issues are not responding, rapid movement trough the now and next and the box thinking you pressed the 5 button

    did you try Putting masking tape over the remote sensor on the box


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    I'll try that now guys cheers. Its unuseable as is, no joke. I've a plasma tv, I wonder if this makes the issue worse?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Resolved with masking tape, fair play lads - saved me a rather painful phonecall I would imagine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    It seems plasma TVs make infrared emissions too, not sure if it's worse than LCD TVs or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭Minatauro


    Hi there,

    have the same problem with the remote. It takes a few presses of the button just to get one number when typing channel numbers or else it would repeat the number even if i only pressed the button once. Its like it slows down to nothing happening or speeds up repeating numbers so the channel always ends up looped back to the upc info channel.

    I got a new remote posted out and still the same problems. I have same plasma tv since day one and there were never any problems before. Just been happening in the last week. Could it be to do with the new epg guide as there is nothing else different in the house to interfere? i have the upc mediabox basic digital. Where on it is the ir receiver? i dont want to have masking tape all over the front of it :D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭dunworth1


    Minatauro wrote: »
    Hi there,

    have the same problem with the remote. It takes a few presses of the button just to get one number when typing channel numbers or else it would repeat the number even if i only pressed the button once. Its like it slows down to nothing happening or speeds up repeating numbers so the channel always ends up looped back to the upc info channel.

    I got a new remote posted out and still the same problems. I have same plasma tv since day one and there were never any problems before. Just been happening in the last week. Could it be to do with the new epg guide as there is nothing else different in the house to interfere? i have the upc mediabox basic digital. Where on it is the ir receiver? i dont want to have masking tape all over the front of it :D.

    go up close to the box with a lamp and shine it around and you should be able to see it it looks like a bulb


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    EnterNow wrote: »
    I found the Sky+ epg (non hd) an absoloute pain to use. The lag was unbelievable, sometimes it would lag so badly, if I could remember how to get the channel I wanted I'd go ahead & press the combinations. Then the box would just wake up, all my inputs were processed (after inputting them) and it would go through the menus and select the channel sometimes 4/5 full seconds later.

    If you found that with a Sky+ remote, then the problem is defo with the tv set, not with the box.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    If you found that with a Sky+ remote, then the problem is defo with the tv set, not with the box.

    Nope that was the box, happened on 3 different tv's.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    EnterNow wrote: »
    Nope that was the box, happened on 3 different tv's.

    I just thought that the newer LCD/LED/Plasma tvs may have issues with converting the data/signal from the box. If the UPC remotes are that bad, I'll have to reconsider going down that road :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭dunworth1


    I just thought that the newer LCD/LED/Plasma tvs may have issues with converting the data/signal from the box. If the UPC remotes are that bad, I'll have to reconsider going down that road :(

    it only happens with certain tvs there is nothing wrong with the remote/box
    its just that some combination's of tvs and the box dont work 100%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    I just thought that the newer LCD/LED/Plasma tvs may have issues with converting the data/signal from the box.

    Converting? What? The TV does not interact with remote control commands going from your remote to your set-top box in any way. The problem is infrared emissions (in light from the screen) from LCD and plasma TVs can interfere with the remote signal. Fluorescent lights (e.g. CFLs) can interfere too.

    I suspect LED-backlit LCD TVs do not emit infrared light, but I don't know for sure. CRT TVs do not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭Eamo71


    It sounds similar to problems others have had, but seems a bit more extreme than usual. The issue seems to be caused by infrared emissions from the CCFL backlights used in LCD TVs - severity of the problem will vary between different sets, location, etc. Putting masking tape over the remote sensor on the STB can reduce the problem (it worked for me with the old silver Thomson DVR).

    @Eamo71: I didn't know the Cisco box had this problem too, I guess I got lucky. Was this fixed in a firmware update or was something else done to resolve the issue?

    @Zilog: I ended up buying an all-for-one-remote (cheap one for about 16 euro) and programmed it for UPC STB/TV/DVD and Blu Ray. No I've no issues with the remote now. Don;t know why - perhaps the IR beam is stronger...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 toreadorx2001


    Eamo71 wrote: »
    @Zilog: I ended up buying an all-for-one-remote (cheap one for about 16 euro) and programmed it for UPC STB/TV/DVD and Blu Ray. No I've no issues with the remote now. Don;t know why - perhaps the IR beam is stronger...
    what make of tv have u got . I am told the ir sensor is too weak in the box


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭Eamo71


    what make of tv have u got . I am told the ir sensor is too weak in the box

    I had a Philips 32 inch - now have a Samsung 42 inch.

    Same problem occurred with both TVs. Problem really only started happening with the Cisco HD DVR box. No problems with the silver DVR.

    The problem was so frustrating that my wife was threatening to ditch the HD box and go back to SD with the silver DVR.

    Decided to get the One-For_all thingmajig and haven't looked back since. I primarily got it as a possible fix for the STB but it also controls the TV, DVD and Blu Ray. So it was a win-win all round.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 toreadorx2001


    Eamo71 wrote: »
    I had a Philips 32 inch - now have a Samsung 42 inch.

    Same problem occurred with both TVs. Problem really only started happening with the Cisco HD DVR box. No problems with the silver DVR.

    The problem was so frustrating that my wife was threatening to ditch the HD box and go back to SD with the silver DVR.

    Decided to get the One-For_all thingmajig and haven't looked back since. I primarily got it as a possible fix for the STB but it also controls the TV, DVD and Blu Ray. So it was a win-win all round.

    Eamo ,
    Aren't you the lucky one might give that a try ,,see what happens nothing to lose at this stage if the hd box doesn't work out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭Eamo71


    Eamo ,
    Aren't you the lucky one might give that a try ,,see what happens nothing to lose at this stage if the hd box doesn't work out

    I was in exact same boat. Nothing to lose. Got it for 16 euro down from 24 if I recall correctly.

    If you want to know where I got it and the serial number etc... just drop me a PM though I think any of them should work. There's a UPC code on the manual -- so you'll be up and running in minutes. Unfortunately, the all-for-one remote was a slightly older model so it didn't have my Blu Ray code. So I just programmed the buttons on it from the Blu ray remote and it works a treat. I really do think it;s a million miles better than the UPC remote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭amused2death


    Many of the postings here seem to think the problem lies with the new types of TV, Plasma and LCD. Well my UPC remote doesn't like taking instructions. The problem is clearly between the remote and the box. MY TV is 10yrs old and is a CRT type. The remote/box was working fine for a few months but in recent weeks they are not communicating properly with cronic delayed responses and then everything happens at once. Cheap equipment not properly tested and not fit for purpose. I am going to document the problems I might even video the more annoying delays and then notify UPC demanding what they plan to do to bring their service up to standard. IF I get no where with them then it is off to the small claims with folder under arm and switch to Sky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 toreadorx2001


    Eamo71 wrote: »
    I was in exact same boat. Nothing to lose. Got it for 16 euro down from 24 if I recall correctly.

    If you want to know where I got it and the serial number etc... just drop me a PM though I think any of them should work. There's a UPC code on the manual -- so you'll be up and running in minutes. Unfortunately, the all-for-one remote was a slightly older model so it didn't have my Blu Ray code. So I just programmed the buttons on it from the Blu ray remote and it works a treat. I really do think it;s a million miles better than the UPC remote.[/QUO
    Sent pm


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 toreadorx2001


    hi Eamo ..did u get my pm ?????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 toreadorx2001


    Eamo71 wrote: »
    I was in exact same boat. Nothing to lose. Got it for 16 euro down from 24 if I recall correctly.

    If you want to know where I got it and the serial number etc... just drop me a PM though I think any of them should work. There's a UPC code on the manual -- so you'll be up and running in minutes. Unfortunately, the all-for-one remote was a slightly older model so it didn't have my Blu Ray code. So I just programmed the buttons on it from the Blu ray remote and it works a treat. I really do think it;s a million miles better than the UPC remote.

    hi Eamo,
    got the hd box today and hitched it up . similiar probs but tolerable for the moment , will see how it goes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 644 ✭✭✭Eamo71


    hi Eamo,
    got the hd box today and hitched it up . similiar probs but tolerable for the moment , will see how it goes

    Sorry just back now. Will look at the PMS.

    Apologies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭richiek


    Many of the postings here seem to think the problem lies with the new types of TV, Plasma and LCD. Well my UPC remote doesn't like taking instructions. The problem is clearly between the remote and the box. MY TV is 10yrs old and is a CRT type. The remote/box was working fine for a few months but in recent weeks they are not communicating properly with cronic delayed responses and then everything happens at once. Cheap equipment not properly tested and not fit for purpose. I am going to document the problems I might even video the more annoying delays and then notify UPC demanding what they plan to do to bring their service up to standard. IF I get no where with them then it is off to the small claims with folder under arm and switch to Sky.


    I'm also having problems with my upc remote and box. I have a 32" samsung lcd and the standard upc mediabox (not the pvr) the setup hasnt changed and has been working for the the last 6 months, It only seems to have stopped working since upc upgraded the firmware to display the tv guide differently.

    The remote will work randomly, when it works its fine. but then sometimes it just wont do anything.

    any suggestions? (oh and have tried several sets of new batteries to no avail)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 toreadorx2001


    richiek wrote: »
    I'm also having problems with my upc remote and box. I have a 32" samsung lcd and the standard upc mediabox (not the pvr) the setup hasnt changed and has been working for the the last 6 months, It only seems to have stopped working since upc upgraded the firmware to display the tv guide differently.

    The remote will work randomly, when it works its fine. but then sometimes it just wont do anything.

    any suggestions? (oh and have tried several sets of new batteries to no avail)

    Hi there , .
    first of all ,(1) u could unplug ur media box for a minute , and reconnect . that will allow it to reboot and install any recent soft ware changes they have updated . (2) u could reset factory settings in the upc menu ,u will need ur pin number , if u haven't ur own try 0000. or 1234 ,if all this fails give UPC a call , i'm sure they will be familier with the problem


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I got a new Samsung LE40C530 TV on Sunday and have the Pace Mediabox, without the recorder. Never had any remote issues with my old CRT TV but now that I had the new LCD the only way it would respond was if I literally held the remote in front of the IR sensor.

    Tried the masking tape method and it didn't help at all but I tried a small piece of electrical tape and that seems to have worked. Looks a lot better than the masking tape too, it's barely noticeable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 toreadorx2001


    Karsini wrote: »
    I got a new Samsung LE40C530 TV on Sunday and have the Pace Mediabox, without the recorder. Never had any remote issues with my old CRT TV but now that I had the new LCD the only way it would respond was if I literally held the remote in front of the IR sensor.

    Tried the masking tape method and it didn't help at all but I tried a small piece of electrical tape and that seems to have worked. Looks a lot better than the masking tape too, it's barely noticeable.

    Karsini , did u put the tape on TV IR ..or ..the MEDIA box IR


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Karsini , did u put the tape on TV IR ..or ..the MEDIA box IR

    The mediabox IR. Didn't do anything with the TV's IR.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 toreadorx2001


    Karsini wrote: »
    The mediabox IR. Didn't do anything with the TV's IR.
    Thanks Karsini, will give it a go , i got UPC to fit me with a HD media box .. no improvment so i will the BLACK tape a go


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 jmahon92


    Okay so I got a UPC box on last week It seems to work fine but ocaissionly (especially at night) the remote and box act funny. I would press guide several times and nothing happens (the baterries DO work cause there is a light to say they work when you press a button). Then eventually the guide will appear, then i would press down and nothing will happen, then i press it again, and again and again and then after 3 minutes it will scroll down once and scroll up twice! then i would press 122 for example and it thinks i am pressing 982. The volume buttons work fine. Then sometimes whole thing will freeze and i have to plug it out again. BUT it seems to work perfectly a lot of the time. PLEASE HELP ME!!!!


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