Do you download cracked apps?

pjhamill · 02-08-2010 03:23PM #1

Personally I think it's wrong.The amount of effort that goes into making a good app.

fmcattack · 02-08-2010 03:26PM

Whats the difference between apps and music/games/software...

Personally I'll download them to try and if there worth it I'll buy

abouttobebanned · 02-08-2010 03:26PM

Do you download music? Films?

Quite a lot of work goes into those as well.

Piracy is a crime. Do not accept it. Demand a genuine video cassette from your retailer.

pjhamill · 02-08-2010 03:27PM

abouttobebanned wrote: »

Do you download music? Films?

Quite a lot of work goes into those as well.

Piracy is a crime. Do not accept it. Demand a genuine video cassette from your retailer.

NO i'm totally against piracy.

vinnycoyne · 02-08-2010 03:29PM

Just as a reminder - from the forum charter:

No discussion of anything illegal, with special mention of cracked apps.

As long as there's no discussion of how to obtain cracked apps then I'm okay with this thread continuing.

Back on topic: hell no!

pjhamill · 02-08-2010 03:49PM

Ye Vinny I'd be the first to kick them out

jester77 · 02-08-2010 03:52PM

I've worked as a developer and I know the effort that goes into creating a piece of software. I have a bit of a love/hate relationship with the app store.

It's fantastic that you can get everything in one place, before I would get apps from handango and sites like this and it was not easy to find relevant software and get updates. The app store makes this easy.

I don't like the pricing and review process of the app store. 79c is cheap but if you develop a good app, then you should be entitled to charge more than 79c but alot people now are against paying more than 79c which annoys me. Plus the fact that people are willing to pirate a 79c app really saddens me, it's less than a cheeseburger. And the reviews people leave amaze me, for example: I use a really great pizza app that finds all pizza stores that deliver to my area. Fantastic app yet people are leaving 1 star because there is a poor selection of delivery options in their area, nothing to do with the app at all

pjhamill · 02-08-2010 03:56PM

Ye some people don't understand what review means

mondeo · 02-08-2010 04:11PM

I would try a cracked to determine if it's worth buying.

Stuxnet · 02-08-2010 04:14PM

pjhamill · 02-08-2010 04:19PM

mondeo wrote: »

I would try a cracked to determine if it's worth buying.

Ye there should be a way to preview each app for like 5 minutes or something.

jesus_thats_gre · 02-08-2010 04:23PM

I will be honest, I did and still do now but also spend a shed load of money on games, cinema, software and blurays.

Virtually every version of Windows I had from Windows 95 to XP was pirated. It was on that however that I was able to have a computer at home when in college and it played a big part in me developing the skill set that I have now. Now that I am working and applying that skill set in the work place, all of my software properly licensed and will continue to be so for quite sometime to come.

Virtually every boxset that I have (and I have a lot) were purchased as a result of me downloading the shows and really liking them.

I have some cracked apps on my iPad but I never use them. I just downloaded them becase I was curious to see what they were like and I could do so easily. I would never have downloaded and paid for them because I have absolutely no use for them.

Piracy is wrong and is rightly illegal. It isn't black and white though and I fully believe that copyright owners should be looking at changing their business models instead of resisting change and holding onto an outdated way of doing things.

AntiVirus · 02-08-2010 04:27PM

jester77 wrote: »

I use a really great pizza app that finds all pizza stores that deliver to my area. Fantastic app yet people are leaving 1 star because there is a poor selection of delivery options in their area, nothing to do with the app at all

Not a great app really if it has a poor selection for there area. Are they allowed to get there money back?

cojomo2 · 02-08-2010 04:31PM

abouttobebanned wrote: »

Do you download music? Films?

Quite a lot of work goes into those as well.

Piracy is a crime. Do not accept it. Demand a genuine video cassette from your retailer.

or one of those fancy dvd/blue ray thingies ...

Agent Smith · 02-08-2010 05:07PM

abouttobebanned wrote: »

Do you download music? Films?

Quite a lot of work goes into those as well.

Piracy is a crime. Do not accept it. Demand a genuine video cassette from your retailer.

You Wouldnt Download a car...

I FUCKING WOULD IF I COULD!

Stuxnet · 02-08-2010 05:10PM

its kinda like the 5 knuckle shuffle, not every one will admit to it !!

jester77 · 02-08-2010 05:25PM

AntiVirus wrote: »

Not a great app really if it has a poor selection for there area. Are they allowed to get there money back?

If you live somewhere that has few pizzeria's, then that is hardly the apps fault. Plus the app is free, they make their money from the business's that use their portal. So it's not like people are losing out.

Inquitus · 02-08-2010 05:27PM

Appstore doesn't give refunds, it would benefit greatly from try before you buy, especially given some of the crap on it.

I'll pirate anything I can get my grubby paws on, I have bought some albums 5-10 times over the last 30 years on different formats which degrade over time. CD's, DVDs etc. don't last forever and have a finite lifespan, for all the DVDs and CDs I bought that are no longer with me, I download TV Series, Movies and Music now.

Give me something like Steam but for Music and DVDs that I can forever access in the cloud then I might start buying again, but for now, fcuk all the stone age copyright holders and their backwards ideas about content distribution.

Stuxnet · 02-08-2010 05:30PM

Ive been stung on the cydia app store as well as apple app store, some dev's are robbing people also ! its a 2 way street

Hogzy · 02-08-2010 05:32PM

Have to say android system is fantastic.

If you buy an app you dont pay for it till 24hrs later. If you uninstall it within the 24hrs you dont pay for it. You can only do this once with each app though, otherwise people would never pay :P
Apple should really consider a system like this.

pjhamill · 02-08-2010 05:47PM

Ye we need a system that allows us to test apps like ibooks does with books.

vinnycoyne · 02-08-2010 06:05PM

Hogzy wrote: »

Have to say android system is fantastic.

If you buy an app you dont pay for it till 24hrs later. If you uninstall it within the 24hrs you dont pay for it. You can only do this once with each app though, otherwise people would never pay :P
Apple should really consider a system like this.

pjhamill wrote: »

Ye we need a system that allows us to test apps like ibooks does with books.

Both are great ideas. It would also mean that devs wouldn't have to build & maintain two versions of each app in order to provide a free trial.

Pittens · 02-08-2010 06:41PM

Give me something like Steam but for Music and DVDs that I can forever access in the cloud then I might start buying again, but for now, fcuk all the stone age copyright holders and their backwards ideas about content distribution.

Where backward means you pay for someone else's work? Hilarious.

Before the App Store people could pretend they were sucking it to the man. Now they are stealing from the work of normal everyday folks. Utterly vile.

Ive been stung on the cydia app store as well as apple app store, some dev's are robbing people also ! its a 2 way street

most devs have nothing to do with cydia. If you have jailborken your phone you are not paying for anything are you?

Pittens · 02-08-2010 06:42PM

Inquitus wrote: »

Give me something like Steam but for Music and DVDs that I can forever access in the cloud then I might start buying again, but for now, fcuk all the stone age copyright holders and their backwards ideas about content distribution.

The appstore has that. YOu cant rebuy the same application again.

Next excuse?

Pittens · 02-08-2010 06:45PM

I reckon there should be some kind of app alliance, where each app can know - via a server - whether the app has been thieved or not and and it logs it. When the number of thefts equals the value of the phone, the app destroys the phone, erasing all content. That would be awesome.

Stuxnet · 02-08-2010 06:51PM

Pittens wrote: »

most devs have nothing to do with cydia. If you have jailborken your phone you are not paying for anything are you?

no, not true, cydia has its own store also, and rock , they offer excellent themes and apps you cant buy from apple ! thousands of developers contribute and have their own repositories where you can buy stuff, alot of it free also

not everyone wants to be steve jobs lapdog, cydia doesnt automatically mean pirate

Inquitus · 02-08-2010 07:01PM

Pittens wrote: »

The appstore has that. YOu cant rebuy the same application again.

Next excuse?

If I dl a TV series or a movie off of itunes, I can only use it on an apple device, and should I stop using an apple device I can no longer access my purchase, much the same as all the DRM music I bought off itunes back in the day, not to mention any iBooks purchases.

And if you happened to slightly more literate you might have been able to grasp the general thrust of my comment, but then we all know just how........you are.

vinnycoyne · 02-08-2010 07:07PM

Lads, please tone down the personal comments. Thanks.

hshortt · 02-08-2010 07:18PM

None of the apps are cracked.

The illegal distribution methods come from the removal/bypassing of Apple-applied DRM. All applications are submitted to the App Store without DRM added. The DRM is then applied when you buy/download an application from the store. Removing the DRM is what enabled the applications to be distributed.

What happens thereafter is detailed in other places.

Cheers

Owen · 02-08-2010 07:46PM

I've paid 100 Euro for Navigon when it came out, and between that and everything else on my phone, I've probably paid over 250 Euro so far. Do I pirate apps? I actually do, but for a purpose. If an app doesn't have a stripped out free version, I'll pirate it to try it out. If it's good, then I'll buy it, if not, it goes in the bin.

I'm against piracy in principle, especially as I'd like to develop some apps in the future, but I do bend the rules a teensy bit

unklerosco · 02-08-2010 08:04PM

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

I will be honest, I did and still do now but also spend a shed load of money on games, cinema, software and blurays.

Virtually every version of Windows I had from Windows 95 to XP was pirated. It was on that however that I was able to have a computer at home when in college and it played a big part in me developing the skill set that I have now. Now that I am working and applying that skill set in the work place, all of my software properly licensed and will continue to be so for quite sometime to come.

Virtually every boxset that I have (and I have a lot) were purchased as a result of me downloading the shows and really liking them.

I have some cracked apps on my iPad but I never use them. I just downloaded them becase I was curious to see what they were like and I could do so easily. I would never have downloaded and paid for them because I have absolutely no use for them.

Piracy is wrong and is rightly illegal. It isn't black and white though and I fully believe that copyright owners should be looking at changing their business models instead of resisting change and holding onto an outdated way of doing things.

100% agree with that... I've downloaded plenty of boxsets etc and have gone out and bought them to watch all the extras etc etc. Anything I didn't like after the first/second show I deleted..

Same with apps, they all need to come with trial versions... There's no way I'm spending €10+ on something without getting a chance to try it out first... Bring back demo discs!!!!

:p

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