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Most difficult Degree to get

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  • #32
    Fromvert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭Fromvert


    Voltex wrote: »
    Just looking at the medical finals exam paper for last year on the UCC site.... and Im thinking medicine.


    You could looks at loads of different final exam papers and they will look extremely difficult if you have little to no understanding of the subject.


  • #33
    Voltex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭Voltex


    pickarooney wrote: »
    I'd have to say lupus.
    ...i was guessing swine flu!


  • #34
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    pickarooney wrote: »
    I'd have to say lupus.
    It's never lupus.


  • #35
    SeaFields
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    Black tarry stools. hummmm....

    Too much Guinness. Collapse at home was more likely a drunken stumble.


  • #36
    Voltex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭Voltex


    SeaFields wrote: »
    Black tarry stools. hummmm....

    Too much Guinness. Collapse at home was more likely a drunken stumble.
    and thats your medical opinion?


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  • #37
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Surely it depends on the person? A medical degree for one person could be simple to achieve, but they would be clueless at architecture & vice versa.

    It's all relative really.


  • #38
    ERR!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 598 ✭✭✭ERR!


    I did applied chemistry and that was pretty damn hard ugh


  • #39
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Voltex wrote: »
    Most difficult Degree to get?
    Any level above the 30th degree in the Freemasons to be honest.


  • #40
    SeaFields
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    Voltex wrote: »
    and thats your medical opinion?

    Yes Sir it is. Ive a medical background....used to play doctors and nurses back in the day ;)


  • #41
    epgc3fyqirnbsx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,228 ✭✭✭epgc3fyqirnbsx


    If it's a vocational thing it wont be difficult because you'll have a passion for it. So it varies for the person

    That said I always though engineers had it hard at college, whether that be mechanical electrical or whatever. They had to do much longer hours than everyone else and had complicated projects

    Unlike Arts 12 hours a week of which half could safely be avoided :P


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  • #42
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Leighton Crashing Penknife wrote: »
    That said I always though engineers had it hard at college, whether that be mechanical electrical or whatever. They had to do much longer hours than everyone else and had complicated projects

    How many 1st year Mechanical & Electrical Engineering students does it take to change a light bulb?

    None. It's a 2nd year project.


  • #43
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    1. A 67-year old male is brought to Accident and Emergency following collapse
    at home. His wife reports that he had three episodes of black tar/treacle-like stool in
    the previous 24 hours. He has a background history of osteoarthritis and hypertension.
    He is unsure of his medication and has left them at home. On examination he is pale,
    mildly agitated, with a blood pressure of 110/70mmHg and a heart rate of 60 bpm.
    His abdomen is soft with mild epigastric tenderness and no hepatomegaly. He does
    have gynaecomastia.
    a. How do you interpret his vital signs?
    Poke the ****er, if he grunts, he's ok. If not, he's probably dead, and can wait.
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    b. What initial treatment is appropriate?
    Put the prick on a chair in A&E for 15 hours.
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    Exam Number: ______________________
    Page 2 of 7
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    c. List 3 likely causes of this patient’s melaena.
    Guinness
    Those "Legal High" jobbies.
    More Drink

    d. What questions will you ask in the history to help clarify the likely source
    of blood loss?
    Have you got VHI, BUPA or the Like? Yes? Wait on that chair for a few hours, take this paracetemol, and you'll be fine.

    No? Wait on that chair for 7 more hours, take this paracetemol and you'll be fine.
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________

    How'd I do?


  • #44
    mohawk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭mohawk


    Agricola wrote: »
    Points wise, its possibly more difficult to get into, but I can only imagine (and hope) that its not as rigourous a qualification to get as a MD!

    An MD only has to know about people a vet needs to know about a lot of very different animals.

    As someone who as taught med students they are great for learning off crap but other then that it would frighten you talking to them


  • #45
    epgc3fyqirnbsx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,228 ✭✭✭epgc3fyqirnbsx


    Animals can't tell you whats wrong with them either


  • #46
    mardybumbum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭mardybumbum


    mohawk wrote: »
    As someone who as taught med students they are great for learning off crap but other then that it would frighten you talking to them

    What frightened you about them?


  • #47
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,400 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    A degree in life is probably the most difficult to get.
    Graduation is death.


  • #48
    take everything
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,858 ✭✭✭take everything


    Voltex wrote: »
    cant link it...but hers the question:
    1. A 67-year old male is brought to Accident and Emergency following collapse
    at home. His wife reports that he had three episodes of black tar/treacle-like stool in
    the previous 24 hours. He has a background history of osteoarthritis and hypertension.
    He is unsure of his medication and has left them at home. On examination he is pale,
    mildly agitated, with a blood pressure of 110/70mmHg and a heart rate of 60 bpm.
    His abdomen is soft with mild epigastric tenderness and no hepatomegaly. He does
    have gynaecomastia.
    a. How do you interpret his vital signs?
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    b. What initial treatment is appropriate?
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    Exam Number: ______________________
    Page 2 of 7
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    c. List 3 likely causes of this patient’s melaena.
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    d. What questions will you ask in the history to help clarify the likely source
    of blood loss?
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    __________________________________________________________________
    ____________________________________


    and thats just surgery


    TBH, that question is merciful enough if you were a final year med student.

    Mildly hypotensive, not tachycardic (no shock secondary to the blood loss) so don't have to worry too much.
    Abdomen soft so no perforation.
    No hepatomegaly so less likely to be oesophageal varices (?).
    Cimetidine (presumably for an ulcer) is probably causing the gynaecomastia.
    It all fits neatly enough.
    Probably just gastritis/PU caused by NSAIDs.
    Obviously do endoscopy to find the cause (and outrule varices or gastric ca), look for H Pylori while you're there, treat with a PPI (or triple therapy if needed) and stop the NSAID if he can do without it.
    Obviously treat any anaemia etc etc.

    TBH that's probably all wrong. :pac:


  • #49
    PK2008
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    Rocket Surgery!!!


  • #50
    Fart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Fart


    take everything wrote: »
    TBH, that question is merciful enough if you were a final year med student.

    Mildly hypotensive, not tachycardic (no shock secondary to the blood loss) so don't have to worry too much.
    Abdomen soft so no perforation.
    No hepatomegaly so less likely to be oesophageal varices (?).
    Cimetidine (presumably for an ulcer) is probably causing the gynaecomastia.
    It all fits neatly enough.
    Probably just gastritis/PU caused by NSAIDs.
    Obviously do endoscopy to find the cause (and outrule varices or gastric ca), look for H Pylori while you're there, treat with a PPI (or triple therapy if needed) and stop the NSAID if he can do without it.
    Obviously treat any anaemia etc etc.

    TBH that's probably all wrong. :pac:

    Come on man, Aids is serious enough... don't mock it.


  • #51
    heyjude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭heyjude


    Fart wrote: »
    Come on man, Aids is serious enough... don't mock it.

    NSAIDs are NonSteroidal AntiInflammatory Drugs, which are used primarily to treat inflammation, mild to moderate pain, and fever, an example would be aspirin. So nothing to do with AIDS


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  • #52
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 30,533 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    The most difficult degree to get is one in which you don't have a natural aptitude. I found theoretical physics easy, I imagine I would find French and Law rather troublesome.


  • #53
    piby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 539 ✭✭✭piby


    I'd go with physics or engineering! I copped out by doing a biology-based degree but what the engineers in my college endured in terms of workload, stress and sheer academic difficulty still makes me shudder!!

    Then again different strokes for different folks. You may find somebody who was ace at a maths based subject find it really hard to get through, say, philosophy.


  • #54
    epgc3fyqirnbsx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,228 ✭✭✭epgc3fyqirnbsx


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    The most difficult degree to get is one in which you don't have a natural aptitude. I found theoretical physics easy, I imagine I would find French and Law rather troublesome.

    Very true. I did Arts with IT and legal science. IT nearly killed me but I loved law because I love reading and analysing. Did a law degree afterwards and didn't find it hard at all because it interested me.

    I could study a language for years and wouldnt get it though


  • #55
    high horse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭high horse


    Mrmoe wrote: »
    The 3rd degree is tough.:p

    Don't people usually get given the 3rd degree? sounds like an easy one to me


  • #56
    rubensni
    Closed Accounts Posts: 350 ✭✭rubensni


    Leighton Crashing Penknife wrote: »
    Animals can't tell you whats wrong with them either

    Vets have the highest suicide rate of all jobs, so whatever about the the degree the it must be a super tough life: http://www.independent.ie/health/latest-news/suicide-rate-four-times-higher-for-vets-2243241.html


  • #57
    Vorsprung
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,820 ✭✭✭Vorsprung


    take everything wrote: »
    TBH, that question is merciful enough if you were a final year med student.

    Mildly hypotensive, not tachycardic (no shock secondary to the blood loss) so don't have to worry too much.
    Abdomen soft so no perforation.
    No hepatomegaly so less likely to be oesophageal varices (?).
    Cimetidine (presumably for an ulcer) is probably causing the gynaecomastia.
    It all fits neatly enough.
    Probably just gastritis/PU caused by NSAIDs.
    Obviously do endoscopy to find the cause (and outrule varices or gastric ca), look for H Pylori while you're there, treat with a PPI (or triple therapy if needed) and stop the NSAID if he can do without it.
    Obviously treat any anaemia etc etc.

    TBH that's probably all wrong. :pac:

    Not being tachycardic and thinking that's ok is an easy trap to fall into - if he's got high BP he could be on a beta blocker, so he won't generate a tachycardia in response to haemorrhage.

    No feeling a big liver means he doesn't have one, you can't feel it, or he's got a small one, as in cirrhosis. With gynaecomastia, he's probably got a degree of liver failure.

    If he's got OA, he's probably on NSAIDs, which are going to erode any varices (and I'm thinking gastric varices) that this guy has. When you add pale, relatively hypotensive (remember he's normally hypertensive), agitation (due to reduced cerebral perfusion - a bad sign), on top of the fact that he's pooing blood for 3 days.

    This guy needs 2 big lines, bloods and will need a few units of blood lined up, a PPI infusion, a full medication list (quickly obtained by ringing the guy's normal pharmacy). Feep him fasting for an urgent scope, stop any gastric irritants. You could talk about the Stenstaken Blakemore tubes (and whatever they call the one for gastric varices) too. May need ICU/inotropes if he drops his bundle even more.

    ****ing hell this is way too serious for AH


  • #58
    Royale with Cheese
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,375 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    I wouldn't call computer science particularly difficult. It's just some people can get their head around it, and some can't.


  • #59
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    A BA in Jam Making would be difficult. I hear it requires a lot of technique.


  • #60
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    PK2008 wrote: »
    Rocket Surgery!!!

    Otherwise known as Aeronautical Engineering.


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  • #61
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Journalism used to have high points and a tough entrance criteria.

    Seriously.

























    Seriously!

    Explain Brendan and Alison?

    In fairness, even 15/20 years ago, they had Terry Keane and Barry Egan.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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