Most difficult Degree to get

Voltex · 29-07-2010 7:49pm #1

Im gonna have a guess...but maybe applied physics or medicine. But do you think?

Celly Smunt · 29-07-2010 7:51pm

361 degrees,i just can't seem to find it

29-07-2010 7:52pm

pmcmahon wrote: »

361 degrees,i just can't seem to find it

It's just at 1 degrees...

And I'd say medicine for duration and maybe actuary for difficulty..

Voltex · 29-07-2010 7:53pm

pmcmahon wrote: »

361 degrees,i just can't seem to find it

i hear they can get that in applied physics

Carsinian Thau · 29-07-2010 7:55pm

Degrees? Pfft!

Radians are where it's at. :cool:

alwaysadub · 29-07-2010 7:55pm

Turning your head 360 degress is quite difficult. Unless you're an owl. Or Linda Blair..

zuroph · 29-07-2010 7:55pm

Voltex wrote: »

Im gonna have a guess...but maybe applied physics or medicine. But do you think?

computer systems. highest failure rate AFAIK. prob cos the points are low so you can get in thick as sh1te, and then be expected to learn code.

bonerm · 29-07-2010 7:55pm

O degrees Kelvin is also quite difficult

Rubberlegs · 29-07-2010 7:57pm

One of the Three Degrees:)

DOC09UNAM · 29-07-2010 7:57pm

zuroph wrote: »

computer systems. highest failure rate AFAIK. prob cos the points are low so you can get in thick as sh1te, and then be expected to learn code.

So basically people doing computer systems are thick as shíte you say?

SV · 29-07-2010 7:57pm

zuroph wrote: »

computer systems. highest failure rate AFAIK. prob cos the points are low so you can get in thick as sh1te, and then be expected to learn code.

Yes indeed!
the code is the easy part of it though to be honest, I'd say most fail on the maths. I know I did :P

Agricola · 29-07-2010 7:58pm

Serious answer: Any degree focused on pure maths, physics, engineering or some combination of them.

You need to know your stuff and be able to apply it to new scenarios and situations.

Arts, business degrees etc are largely waffle and a case of regurgitating theory.

Mrmoe · 29-07-2010 7:58pm

The 3rd degree is tough.:p

Mickeroo · 29-07-2010 7:59pm

Isn't veterinary medicine even harder than regular medicine? I remember being told it was one of the hardest to get when i was a kid.

zuroph · 29-07-2010 8:02pm

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

So basically people doing computer systems are thick as shíte you say?

some of them. they stick it down because they know they'll get in

Voltex · 29-07-2010 8:03pm

Agricola wrote: »

Serious answer: Any degree focused on pure maths, physics, engineering or some combination of them.

You need to know your stuff and be able to apply it to new scenarios and situations.

Arts, business degrees etc are largely waffle and a case of regurgitating theory.

ah thats not fair...Im doing a business degree. Its for the field I want to work in....and when I go onto my masters it becomes an MSc.

Agricola · 29-07-2010 8:04pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

Isn't veterinary medicine even harder than regular medicine? I remember being told it was one of the hardest to get when i was a kid.

Points wise, its possibly more difficult to get into, but I can only imagine (and hope) that its not as rigourous a qualification to get as a MD!

baltimore sun · 29-07-2010 8:05pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

Isn't veterinary medicine even harder than regular medicine? I remember being told it was one of the hardest to get when i was a kid.

Yea that & Actuary but they're only hard to get into because there's so few courses, it's not all about how hard the degree is to get. Sure with medicine if you've enough dosh you can go to one of the privates or to another european country or the states, pay your fees and get your degree, still hard work mind you.

Mickeroo · 29-07-2010 8:05pm

Agricola wrote: »

Points wise, its possibly more difficult to get into, but I can only imagine (and hope) that its not as rigourous a qualification to get as a MD!

Well I always thought doctors had it easier than vets as they only have to learn how to look after one type of animal

El Guapo! · 29-07-2010 8:06pm

One that'll get you a job...

Voltex · 29-07-2010 8:08pm

Just looking at the medical finals exam paper for last year on the UCC site.... and Im thinking medicine.

SV · 29-07-2010 8:13pm

Voltex wrote: »

Just looking at the medical finals exam paper for last year on the UCC site.... and Im thinking medicine.

link?

RATM · 29-07-2010 8:14pm

The most difficult degree to get is probably mine.

I have it locked in a safe which is guarded 24/7 by a phalanx of Stormtroopers.

PeakOutput · 29-07-2010 8:21pm

i would say architecture is right up there its stupidly long and the two colleges iv gone to the architects have longer semesters more exams and less holidays then the rest of the degrees

i dont think its maths or physics for the simple fact that in my experience the people who take those courses are usually pretty into the subject and know they are quite good at it before they start and they seem to just 'get it'.

computer science has a massive drop out / failure rate in any college i know of that does it. i dont think this is as a result of it being very difficult though more that people dont know what they are getting into when they take it and also the points have been very low the last few years which makes people think its easy (and if your dumb enough to think that the maount of points a course takes to get into has anything to do with how difficult it is you dont belong in college)

Voltex · 29-07-2010 8:24pm

SV wrote: »

link?

cant link it...but hers the question:

1. A 67-year old male is brought to Accident and Emergency following collapse
at home. His wife reports that he had three episodes of black tar/treacle-like stool in
the previous 24 hours. He has a background history of osteoarthritis and hypertension.
He is unsure of his medication and has left them at home. On examination he is pale,
mildly agitated, with a blood pressure of 110/70mmHg and a heart rate of 60 bpm.
His abdomen is soft with mild epigastric tenderness and no hepatomegaly. He does
have gynaecomastia.
a. How do you interpret his vital signs?
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
b. What initial treatment is appropriate?
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
Exam Number: ______________________
Page 2 of 7
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
c. List 3 likely causes of this patient’s melaena.
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
d. What questions will you ask in the history to help clarify the likely source
of blood loss?
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________

and thats just surgery

Dj · 29-07-2010 8:31pm

PeakOutput wrote: »

i would say architecture is right up there its stupidly long and the two colleges iv gone to the architects have longer semesters more exams and less holidays then the rest of the degrees

In DIT they usually have less exams compared to the Engineering modules and spend more time drawing pictures and stuff like that.

Sea Sharp · 29-07-2010 8:32pm

The most difficult degree is one in a university that hasn't seen suspiciouus grade-inflation over the last 15 years.

Dj · 29-07-2010 8:37pm

Obviously the final year UCC medical exam is going to look tough for anyone who hasn't studied medicine.

SV · 29-07-2010 8:40pm

Dj wrote: »

Obviously the final year UCC medical exam is going to look tough for anyone who hasn't studied medicine.

I shouldn't imagine it's very easy for those who have studied it either to be fair.

Think of the hundreds and thousands of different symptoms and treatments that could come up..

take everything · 29-07-2010 8:41pm

Voltex wrote: »

Just looking at the medical finals exam paper for last year on the UCC site.... and Im thinking medicine.

If you're talking about volume of information, yeah it's probably Medicine.

And unfortunately you just gotta learn an awful lot of associations off without ever fully understanding the mechanism.
Attempts at resolution as to what exactly is the mechanism often meet dead ends- because it's just not known.

What's the cause of finger clubbing?
Well we don't fully understand the mechanism so instead learn this heterogenous list off.

What's the mechanism mediating the various causes of Afib.
Ah don't worry about it, just learn the list.
(basically mnemonic-central:rolleyes:).

In terms of concepts, i would imagine pure maths/theoretical physics .

pickarooney · 29-07-2010 8:44pm

Voltex wrote: »

cant link it...but hers the question:

and thats just surgery

I'd have to say lupus.

Fromvert · 29-07-2010 9:08pm

Voltex wrote: »

Just looking at the medical finals exam paper for last year on the UCC site.... and Im thinking medicine.

You could looks at loads of different final exam papers and they will look extremely difficult if you have little to no understanding of the subject.

Voltex · 29-07-2010 9:08pm

pickarooney wrote: »

I'd have to say lupus.

...i was guessing swine flu!

MagicMarker · 29-07-2010 9:11pm

pickarooney wrote: »

I'd have to say lupus.

It's never lupus.

SeaFields · 29-07-2010 9:11pm

Black tarry stools. hummmm....

Too much Guinness. Collapse at home was more likely a drunken stumble.

Voltex · 29-07-2010 9:17pm

SeaFields wrote: »

Black tarry stools. hummmm....

Too much Guinness. Collapse at home was more likely a drunken stumble.

and thats your medical opinion?

starbelgrade · 29-07-2010 9:19pm

Surely it depends on the person? A medical degree for one person could be simple to achieve, but they would be clueless at architecture & vice versa.

It's all relative really.

ERR! · 29-07-2010 9:24pm

I did applied chemistry and that was pretty damn hard ugh

Biggins · 29-07-2010 9:26pm

Voltex wrote: »

Most difficult Degree to get?

Any level above the 30th degree in the Freemasons to be honest.

SeaFields · 29-07-2010 9:26pm

Voltex wrote: »

and thats your medical opinion?

Yes Sir it is. Ive a medical background....used to play doctors and nurses back in the day

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 29-07-2010 9:29pm

If it's a vocational thing it wont be difficult because you'll have a passion for it. So it varies for the person

That said I always though engineers had it hard at college, whether that be mechanical electrical or whatever. They had to do much longer hours than everyone else and had complicated projects

Unlike Arts 12 hours a week of which half could safely be avoided :P

starbelgrade · 29-07-2010 9:32pm

Leighton Crashing Penknife wrote: »

That said I always though engineers had it hard at college, whether that be mechanical electrical or whatever. They had to do much longer hours than everyone else and had complicated projects

How many 1st year Mechanical & Electrical Engineering students does it take to change a light bulb?

None. It's a 2nd year project.

Sofiztikated · 29-07-2010 9:33pm

1. A 67-year old male is brought to Accident and Emergency following collapse
at home. His wife reports that he had three episodes of black tar/treacle-like stool in
the previous 24 hours. He has a background history of osteoarthritis and hypertension.
He is unsure of his medication and has left them at home. On examination he is pale,
mildly agitated, with a blood pressure of 110/70mmHg and a heart rate of 60 bpm.
His abdomen is soft with mild epigastric tenderness and no hepatomegaly. He does
have gynaecomastia.
a. How do you interpret his vital signs?
Poke the ****er, if he grunts, he's ok. If not, he's probably dead, and can wait.
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
b. What initial treatment is appropriate?
Put the prick on a chair in A&E for 15 hours.
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
Exam Number: ______________________
Page 2 of 7
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
c. List 3 likely causes of this patient’s melaena.
Guinness
Those "Legal High" jobbies.
More Drink

d. What questions will you ask in the history to help clarify the likely source
of blood loss?
Have you got VHI, BUPA or the Like? Yes? Wait on that chair for a few hours, take this paracetemol, and you'll be fine.

No? Wait on that chair for 7 more hours, take this paracetemol and you'll be fine.
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________

__________________________________________________________________

How'd I do?

mohawk · 29-07-2010 9:43pm

Agricola wrote: »

Points wise, its possibly more difficult to get into, but I can only imagine (and hope) that its not as rigourous a qualification to get as a MD!

An MD only has to know about people a vet needs to know about a lot of very different animals.

As someone who as taught med students they are great for learning off crap but other then that it would frighten you talking to them

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 29-07-2010 9:44pm

Animals can't tell you whats wrong with them either

mardybumbum · 29-07-2010 9:51pm

mohawk wrote: »

As someone who as taught med students they are great for learning off crap but other then that it would frighten you talking to them

What frightened you about them?

kippy · 29-07-2010 9:56pm

A degree in life is probably the most difficult to get.
Graduation is death.

take everything · 29-07-2010 10:58pm

Voltex wrote: »

cant link it...but hers the question:

1. A 67-year old male is brought to Accident and Emergency following collapse
at home. His wife reports that he had three episodes of black tar/treacle-like stool in
the previous 24 hours. He has a background history of osteoarthritis and hypertension.
He is unsure of his medication and has left them at home. On examination he is pale,
mildly agitated, with a blood pressure of 110/70mmHg and a heart rate of 60 bpm.
His abdomen is soft with mild epigastric tenderness and no hepatomegaly. He does
have gynaecomastia.
a. How do you interpret his vital signs?
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
b. What initial treatment is appropriate?
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
Exam Number: ______________________
Page 2 of 7
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
c. List 3 likely causes of this patient’s melaena.
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
d. What questions will you ask in the history to help clarify the likely source
of blood loss?
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
____________________________________

and thats just surgery

TBH, that question is merciful enough if you were a final year med student.

Mildly hypotensive, not tachycardic (no shock secondary to the blood loss) so don't have to worry too much.
Abdomen soft so no perforation.
No hepatomegaly so less likely to be oesophageal varices (?).
Cimetidine (presumably for an ulcer) is probably causing the gynaecomastia.
It all fits neatly enough.
Probably just gastritis/PU caused by NSAIDs.
Obviously do endoscopy to find the cause (and outrule varices or gastric ca), look for H Pylori while you're there, treat with a PPI (or triple therapy if needed) and stop the NSAID if he can do without it.
Obviously treat any anaemia etc etc.

TBH that's probably all wrong. :pac:

PK2008 · 29-07-2010 11:04pm

Rocket Surgery!!!

Fart · 29-07-2010 11:17pm

take everything wrote: »

TBH, that question is merciful enough if you were a final year med student.

Mildly hypotensive, not tachycardic (no shock secondary to the blood loss) so don't have to worry too much.
Abdomen soft so no perforation.
No hepatomegaly so less likely to be oesophageal varices (?).
Cimetidine (presumably for an ulcer) is probably causing the gynaecomastia.
It all fits neatly enough.
Probably just gastritis/PU caused by NSAIDs.
Obviously do endoscopy to find the cause (and outrule varices or gastric ca), look for H Pylori while you're there, treat with a PPI (or triple therapy if needed) and stop the NSAID if he can do without it.
Obviously treat any anaemia etc etc.

TBH that's probably all wrong. :pac:

Come on man, Aids is serious enough... don't mock it.

heyjude · 30-07-2010 12:10am

Fart wrote: »

Come on man, Aids is serious enough... don't mock it.

NSAIDs are NonSteroidal AntiInflammatory Drugs, which are used primarily to treat inflammation, mild to moderate pain, and fever, an example would be aspirin. So nothing to do with AIDS

Most difficult Degree to get

Comments