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M8 McDonalds/Topaz service station at Cashel

  • 31-03-2010 3:26pm
    #1
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭


    Just wondering how the McDonalds restaurant and service station is coming along off the M8 at Cashel? Has construction started yet?
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  • #2
    ItsAWindUp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭ItsAWindUp


    First I've heard of it!


  • #3
    tipperaryboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭tipperaryboy


    McDonalds Cashel really?


  • #4
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    Well, the story going is that Topaz and McDonalds are building a service area off junction 8 of the M8, across from the halting site. It's to catch all the Dublin-Cork traffic. Any sign of construction there? Planning permission was granted well over a year-and-a-half ago.


  • #5
    Harcrid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭Harcrid


    The site has been cleared, and some kerbing laid for the roadways but there has not been any construction for months now. It looks like it is on hold for some reason.


  • #6
    archtech
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    it should be starting shortly from what I can gather. they are just getting the all necessary paperwork in order with the local authority before starting.


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  • #7
    Southsider1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 674 ✭✭✭Southsider1


    It'll all be built sectionally so they'll just appear with all the gear one day and hey presto McDonalds will be knocking out burgers in the shadow of the Rock before you know it.... The golden arches beside the Rock of Cashel.... Nice!


  • #8
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    How long will it take to build once construction starts, I wonder? The McDonalds will do great business I'd imagine - it will catch all the motorway traffic plus local business probably from as far away as Cahir and Thurles even (Thurles is only a bit over ten mins away from Cashel now with the M8 after all).


  • #9
    ongarboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    Well, November opening is confirmed according to Sunday business Post
    http://www.thepost.ie/news/ireland/topaz-planning-major-expansion-49868.html


  • #10
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    That doesn't give them long to build it. Has construction started?


  • #11
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    Topaz just got back to me there. Construction works are due to start within the next two weeks, and a 22-week build period is envisaged. It will open for sure by late November or early December, I am told.


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  • #12
    pat13wx
    Registered Users Posts: 296 ✭✭pat13wx


    No construction work on a new Topaz or McDonalds has started in Cashel from what I can see.


  • #13
    macjohn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭macjohn


    Are texaco on the start of the old Dublin road and tesco the only filling stations in Cashel now or is there some out the Tipperary road?

    Off topic 1. is Cashel Motor Works closing? Moving back to old premises? 2. What is being built behind Minouges furniture store?


  • #14
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    Well it was supposed to start construction about 2 or 3 weeks ago. That's what Topaz told me when I rang them. I hope it starts quickly, as services are desperately required on the M8. It is absurd that the NRA never constructed any when the motorway was under construction. Typical Irish backwardness and stupidity.


  • #15
    pat13wx
    Registered Users Posts: 296 ✭✭pat13wx


    Still nothing going on regarding a Topaz or a McDonalds. Not sure what's going on, the site looks ready but no work being carried out...Perhaps they're considering a different location? In any case, I suppose if building start within the next week or so they could still be ready for the Christmas period.

    @macjohn.......

    I think all that's happening behind Minouges furniture store is they're building an extension to their existing one. It seems to be coming along nicely.


  • #16
    macjohn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭macjohn


    Any updates on this?
    I passed up the other day and thought there was a single rubber tyred jcb/new holland in the site when passing back down it was almost dark but took the exit and crossed over for a look and didnt seem there was anything done to the site?


  • #17
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    macjohn wrote: »
    Any updates on this?
    I passed up the other day and thought there was a single rubber tyred jcb/new holland in the site when passing back down it was almost dark but took the exit and crossed over for a look and didnt seem there was anything done to the site?

    I actually went in for a walk around the site today. You're right, a bit of work was done last week but the scale was TINY. About a hundred square metres of topsoil was scraped back. That's it. It's perplexing, as I was informed last summer the site would be operational by Christmas!


  • #18
    beagga
    Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭beagga


    I believe that it had gone for tender and should be signed and started very soon, My source is in a building firm that tendered for it and is very hopeful of getting the work.


  • #19
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    beagga wrote: »
    I believe that it had gone for tender and should be signed and started very soon, My source is in a building firm that tendered for it and is very hopeful of getting the work.

    Interesting... do you know what exactly is planned? And why it's taken so long to start?


  • #20
    beagga
    Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭beagga


    Furet wrote: »
    Interesting... do you know what exactly is planned? And why it's taken so long to start?

    Here's a copy of the signage as submitted to south tipp co co.

    113.jpg

    Why it hasn't started sooner I dont know.


  • #21
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    beagga wrote: »
    Here's a copy of the signage as submitted to south tipp co co.

    113.jpg

    Why it hasn't started sooner I dont know.

    Legend. I was just looking for the planning file online. Do you have a link?


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  • #22
    beagga
    Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭beagga


    Furet wrote: »
    Legend. I was just looking for the planning file online. Do you have a link?

    Could only find the signage/ topaz link
    http://www.southtippcoco.ie/eplan41/FileRefDetails.aspx?file_number=09734&LASiteID=0

    The rest must be applied for under a different company name.


  • #23
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    beagga wrote: »
    Could only find the signage/ topaz link
    http://www.southtippcoco.ie/eplan41/FileRefDetails.aspx?file_number=09734&LASiteID=0

    The rest must be applied for under a different company name.

    A fairly miserable drawing:

    topaz.jpg

    I must say, it will be a tiny site. I think it will be extraordinarily busy given local and M8 usage.


  • #24
    beagga
    Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭beagga


    Found this
    and this artists drawing and plan were in the attached files


    124.jpg

    123.jpg

    It seems to differ from yours Furet.


  • #25
    archtech
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭archtech


    Furet wrote: »
    A fairly miserable drawing:

    topaz.jpg

    I must say, it will be a tiny site. I think it will be extraordinarily busy given local and M8 usage.

    That's the drawing from the signage planning application. The has been a number of planning applications in respect to the site.

    While you might consider the site quiet small, there are still 12 pumps for fuel and a further two for trucks, which would be amble by any service station standards for motorway service areas.

    The project was tendered recently to building contractors and I am reliability informed will start shortly.

    Not sure what the reason for the delay up to now was, however I would safely guess banks had a part to play in it, if going by recent experiences


  • #26
    tippguy
    Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭tippguy


    103.9 for diesel!! what a bargain!!!! :)


  • #27
    StereoLove
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭StereoLove


    ItsAWindUp wrote: »
    First I've heard of it!
    Same here!


  • #28
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    Lots of false dawns on this thread, but from what I understand, construction should begin next week. Here's hoping.... This service area is badly needed on the Cork-Dublin route.


  • #29
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    Construction has started. Lots of machinery on site. :)


  • #30
    beagga
    Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭beagga


    Furet wrote: »
    Construction has started. Lots of machinery on site. :)

    It'll be interesting to see how quickly this is built. There seemed to be a lot of the groundworks already done before construction started.


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  • #31
    greatdepression
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    The plan is for the site to be ready for opening late April / Early May. I also belive the delay in building was down to funding issuses for the build.


  • #32
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    Here's a picture of the site from last Friday:

    DSCF3682.jpg


  • #33
    arnaldo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4 ✭arnaldo


    ahhh deadly mc donalds in cashel!!!! :D


  • #34
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    Just some photos from today, Wednesday 12 January:

    DSCF3719.jpg
    DSCF3720.jpg
    DSCF3721.jpg


  • #35
    pat13wx
    Registered Users Posts: 296 ✭✭pat13wx


    Thanks for the pics. I was in Cashel today myself and saw the work going on and it all looks in full swing.


  • #36
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    I reckon I'll fill up there very regularly. I dislike the Tesco filling station as there's no food to be had there, and the ones in Cahir are pricey.
    I'll get a Quarter Pounder when it opens, but I doubt I'll be frequenting McDonalds more than once every few months.


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  • #37
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    The NRA has tendered for archaeological investigations of its site in Ballytarsna for the official M8 motorway service area. I hope construction begins before the end of this year. This service area would be identical to those that recently opened on the M1 and M4. Massive, modern, spacious, 24-hour, with direct access from the motorway. A new bridge will be constructed across the M8 during works.


  • #38
    macjohn
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    Tremelo wrote: »
    The NRA has tendered for archaeological investigations of its site in Ballytarsna for the official M8 motorway service area. I hope construction begins before the end of this year. This service area would be identical to those that recently opened on the M1 and M4. Massive, modern, spacious, 24-hour, with direct access from the motorway. A new bridge will be constructed across the M8 during works.

    wow, isnt that just up the road a couple of miles from the new filling station/mcdonalds at Cashel? After they had to build the new slip roads as well I would imagine it is quite an expensive project - and I imagine if the one at "Ballytarsna" if bigger will probably have a bigger range and so get most of the traffic?

    Was this new one allways on the cards? Will it be more of a compeditor to the Horse and Jockey than mcdonalds? (Am I right in thinking the one on the m1 has "ordinary" food and a burgerking?)


    Will a new bridge involve the closing of the road?


  • #39
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    macjohn wrote: »
    wow, isnt that just up the road a couple of miles from the new filling station/mcdonalds at Cashel? After they had to build the new slip roads as well I would imagine it is quite an expensive project - and I imagine if the one at "Ballytarsna" if bigger will probably have a bigger range and so get most of the traffic?

    Was this new one allways on the cards? Will it be more of a compeditor to the Horse and Jockey than mcdonalds? (Am I right in thinking the one on the m1 has "ordinary" food and a burgerking?)


    Will a new bridge involve the closing of the road?

    Yes, it will be quite close to the where the M8 passes the back of Germinal Ireland. It will be a far superior site to the Topaz McDonalds development: it will be open 24/7, 365 days a year; it will have a play area for kids, showers, loads of parking, probably a Burger King, Costa Coffee, newsagents, deli, wifi, landscaped surrounds. I'd imagine it will take the lion's share of business from the McDonalds Topaz site to be honest. However, McDonalds will also be relying on custom from Cashel town/Golden/New Inn/ even Cahir. It won't be entirely dependent on the M8. The NRA complex will, however.

    They will have to close the M8 to facilitate the construction of the bridge but traffic disruption will be minimised. This is taken from the EIS:
    The construction of the M8 Cashel Service Area requires an overbridge over the M8 motorway to allow access to and from the northbound carriageway.

    The bridge could be either a two or three span structure. A two span structure would require a pier to be constructed in the median of the existing M8. This would require the M8 to be widened locally to allow a widened median to facilitate the pier and associated safety barriers. The construction of the widened median would result in significant disruption to traffic on the M8 and is therefore not a favourable option. It is therefore recommended that a three span structure is provided with piers located west of the verge of the northbound carriageway and diverge, and east of the verge of the southbound carriageway where the existing lay by shall be removed.

    Bankseats will be provided at the top of the embankments. This will result in a main span of 27m and side span of 12m. The structural form of the bridge would more than likely consist of precast pretensioned concrete U beams with a composite in-situ reinforced concrete deck slab supported by integral twin concrete circular piers and bankseat abutments. Foundations would most likely be concrete pads for both piers and bankseats depending on ground conditions. The exact structural from will be determined at detailed design stage.


  • #40
    pat13wx
    Registered Users Posts: 296 ✭✭pat13wx


    Tremelo wrote: »
    However, McDonalds will also be relying on custom from Cashel town/Golden/New Inn/ even Cahir. It won't be entirely dependent on the M8. The NRA complex will, however.

    From Thurles and possibly Urlingford too.

    Our house is just a mile and a half from the new proposed site at Germinal; we'd be about half-way between it and the Jockey, but as we're on the now old Dublin-Cork road we'd need to get on the motorway before we could access it, unless of course there's a rare entrance planned for the locals:)


  • #41
    Amtmann
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭Amtmann


    McDonalds are now hiring for the M8 service area restaurant.


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  • #42
    BMWGirl
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    Yea their opening end of may, interviews are early april:D


  • #43
    pat13wx
    Registered Users Posts: 296 ✭✭pat13wx


    BMWGirl wrote: »
    Yea their opening end of may, interviews are early april:D

    That's great.

    I remember watching a documentary when living in Paris which covered the opening of a new MacDonalds in some town somewhere in France and one of the things the new place did was hand out free food to the first costumers. Is this a practice here in Ireland, as well? Be nice if they did it when they open the one in Cashel:)


  • #44
    Amtmann
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    I heard McDonalds've hired approximately 20 people and are training them after Easter. I have a few photos of the site here.


  • #45
    subzeropeck
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    Heading down tommorrow to fit the fridges, should be open by the end of the month


  • #46
    Amtmann
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    Really? Wow. That'd be great. Looks like there's still a lot to do though inside and in terms of roads, etc.


  • #47
    Kvancas
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    Tremelo wrote: »
    I heard McDonalds've hired approximately 20 people and are training them after Easter. I have a few photos of the site here.
    I have heard that Mc Donald's have hired over 70 staff and the opening date is May 18th, Maybe they'll bring it forward a day and the Queen can do the grand opening!!!


  • #48
    todd10k
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    I'm a dublin boy living in thurles, and i can say that this'll be great. I love a bit of maccers every now and then and the nearest one was in roscrea. This should be good :)


  • #49
    Amtmann
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    Confirmed opening on 18 May.


  • #50
    mplbourke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1 ✭mplbourke


    they have it almost fully built now, i was wondering if anyone knows when it wil be open?


  • #51
    Harcrid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭Harcrid


    Did the previous post not give you a clue?


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