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Mobile Phones - When is it too young to have one?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,924 ✭✭✭✭RolandIRL


    i didn't get a phone until 2nd year in secondary school, and even then it was a present for my birthday. i probably wouldn't have gotten one for another 2/3 years. the startup credit (€70) done me for about a year and a half, for all the times i was ringing/texting. when i got into leaving cert, i started texting a lot more, but tbh i doubt i would have needed even then. i met all my friends everyday, and what are you going to talk about for the few hours in the evening that can't wait until the next day?
    i don't think kids should have them until they're at least 14/15. i'm wondering what's going to happen to today's 6/7 year olds that have phones, because (i don't know if this is true or not) if all the radiation associated with having a phone near your head a lot of the time, it can't be healthy for a developing child.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,066 ✭✭✭WallyGUFC


    I got my 1st one in 6th class for Xmas. Instantly got free texts for life so parents didn't have to worry about buying credit.:D I think 6th class up is okay, but any younger is crazy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    I got my first phone when I was 9, it was Christmas of 4th class. It certainly didn't do me any harm. I was never bullied because of it, never targetted by paedophiles, I was brought up to know better than to be giving my mobile number out to strangers. At the time hardly anyone my age had a mobile so I only had 4 numbers on my phone- my mum's, my dad's and two friends'.

    I did a lot of extra-curricular activities so it was really handy for me to let my parents know if I was running late, or vice versa. It was also a great way to keep in touch with people I met at Irish college/various Summer camps. It really helped for organising things like going to the cinema with friends when i was in 5th/6th class (by which time everyone had the much-coveted Nokia 3310)

    Honestly I would have found it pretty cringy if my parents had bought me one of those Firefly phones at that age, the basic Nokia was good enough for me. I can't see much reason for a 6 year old to have a phone, unless they do a lot of activities. I can see it being more good than harm though, for emergencies.

    People are getting a bit hysterical about this, it's not crazy or irresponsible for parents to buy mobiles for younger kids. If my parents had refused to buy me a phone until I was 15 I could easily have saved and bought one for myself on the sly when I was 12 or so and hidden it from them. It saved a lot of hassle that my parents were more sensible than a lot of people on this thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19 EDude


    I got my first when I was 12, it was an old nokia brick fella and i spent most of the time sending picture messages on it. Felt like superman with a mobile... until everyone else got one!

    But I do know of a 7 year old girl with one and she has it kitted out in all the glittery charms etc etc. So I'm nearly certain that at that age its just a fashion accessory because who would she contact? Mam, dad and possibly aunts, uncles or grandparents.

    In my opinion 12/13 is the best age to start, but its entirely up to your own opinions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭Cian92


    I got my first one for my Confiramtion! Seemed a good time to have one. I wouldn't have a problem with somebody in 5th Class getting on either. Its wouldn't be realistic to make a child wait untill they were 15 or 16 before getting one, you are only making them a target for bullying.

    Alot of people are going on about monitoring their childs phone use... I'd be against this, put some trust in your children. They are better able to cope than you think. I probarly joined bebo at the same time I got a phone, and what I do on the internet, or my phone usage has never been monitored. I was brought up better than to do anything stupid on either.

    As about Fireflys, i think any child over the age of 10 would be insulted to have one a cheap €40 one would do the job grand!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Seriously, first one at 9 years of age? When I was nine we were all mystified by my mate's Dad's car phone that was twice the size of a house phone. I didn't get a mobile till I was 17, purely because they weren't really available before then!

    I feel old now...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,384 ✭✭✭gbee


    Biggins wrote: »
    Am I right in being shocked,

    It is wrong and based on new cancer and tumour research we can expect to see a government bill passed on this soon.

    The current 'recommendations' for a mobile phone is 12 years of age and over.

    Look up a thread on children advised to text only, due to concerns of using a device that emits harmful radiation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    They are too young it they can't pay the bills themselves.

    I grew up in a time before mobile phones and guess what... myself and all my friends survived :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,746 ✭✭✭AgileMyth


    MIRMIR82 wrote: »
    Well if you got your 1st phone when you were 12 - you are obviously too young to worry about whether kids should have them or not!!!
    Not true. I had one at 12 or 13 and I have a couple of mates with 4 or 5 year olds. Having said that they're only 20 themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 377 ✭✭AAAAAAAHHH


    bloody hell when i was 6 my dad wouldn't even let me have a walkman for fear I'd break the blooming thing...

    I dont see the point in kids having them at all... Adolescents / teens from about 15 / 16 up... so you can keep tabs on them when you're letting them go out that little bit later...

    Anyone who lets a kid younger then that have a phone "for peace of mind" so the kid can keep in contact with them is a fúcking moron. Kids that young shouldn't be further from you then you can shout at them...

    14 year olds should be with their parents all day? Are you serious?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭BrookieD


    14/15 is about right, my son (7) asked for one because his mate had one (6)..

    Saying this i was shocked when said mate knocked on my door asking to come in and play with my son.
    I replied "If you ask your parent and they say its ok then fine".
    He took out a mobile and started to call them! I asked what he was doing,
    Kid "Calling my mum to ask if its ok to play"
    Me " You live 8 houses away?"
    Kid "It's easier to call home now"

    Perefect for breeding the lazy adult from childhood imho


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    AAAAAAAHHH wrote: »
    14 year olds should be with their parents all day? Are you serious?

    Not exactly with... but not roaming around that you'd need to call them to know where they are and have them come in...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭MmmmmCheese


    I think any age from 10 onwards is fine for having a mobile phone. I got one when I was 11 because I was going to Irish college.

    Can't believe people here are actually saying that a child shouldn't have a phone until they are 15 or 16. You think they will be a target for bullies or paedophiles for having one? The opposite is entirely more likely.

    There's a lot of people here saying that they grew up without mobile phones and so should their kids, but that was a different time. Things have changed.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Can't believe people here are actually saying that a child shouldn't have a phone until they are 15 or 16. You think they will be a target for bullies or paedophiles for having one? The opposite is entirely more likely.

    No... I just don't see the point in them having 1. IMO it's just a luxury piece of technology. It's not a toy for kids. They really have no need for'em.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Got my own first phone back when I was 12, a motorola E770 which was pretty decent at the time.

    Before then my dad had given me his old phones to use starting with an ancient yellow brick of a phone that I got back when I was very young. As far as I can remember it was an old 088 analog phone with one of those massive credit card sized sim cards. Never had any need to use it though.

    Then a few years later when I was eight or so my dad gave me his old Nokia 3310 which I used up until I was in secondary school. Only ever used it when I was going to be late coming home from school and stuff like that.

    After four years of secondary school i've managed to get through way too many different phones :p
    A Motorola E770v -> Motorola V3xx -> iPhone 2G (Only kept it for three days before selling it) -> Nokia N95 8GB -> Nokia N97 (1 week) -> HTC Desire

    I'd have hated to have been given a Firefly or some other crippled phone, just because you're young doesn't mean you can't handle a proper phone. So i'd say anyone from ten years old and above can handle a phone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭MmmmmCheese


    Well when I got one I didn't use it as a toy, I needed it to contant my parents.

    It can be such a handy way of contacting parent or child, I don't see why its such a bad thing for a child to own one. For instance if a child was being collected by his/her parent from, lets say football training, and something happened which meant the parent was going to be 20 minutes late. Do you not think in that case being able to ring the child and let them know is of huge benefit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    No... I just don't see the point in them having 1. IMO it's just a luxury piece of technology. It's not a toy for kids. They really have no need for'em.

    Completely disagree, my little sister is 12 and just got her first phone which I think is the perfect age. It's handy knowing if she somehow got lost she could just ring home. I think people need to start to move with the times


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Greyfox wrote: »
    Completely disagree, my little sister is 12 and just got her first phone which I think is the perfect age. It's handy knowing if she somehow got lost she could just ring home. I think people need to start to move with the times

    I'm not disputing anyone's reasons, I was just highlighting 1 of the reasons why I wouldn't give a kid a phone. Take note it was in response to someone who thought that all the neigh sayers were concerned about the kid being victimised as a result of having the phone.

    Sure move with the times, doesn't mean we need to upgrade our starter packs with new technology that keeps coming out.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    I think the general consensus is that around 12 to 14/15 is average age we broadly agree on.
    ...But giving a normal mobile phone to a 6 years old - even if it is more the exception than the norm' - for myself, I think is just more daftness than anything else.

    I'm genuinely open to be wrong though!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭G_R


    I think alot of people are being a bit ridiculous even suggesting that a child doesn't need a phone until they are 14 or 15.

    My little brother is 12 now, he got his first phone when he was 10 i'd say, and I dont think that was too young. He uses his phone a lot more than I do, texting his friends all the time. I realise that the vast majority of these texts are pointless ones, like lol or haha, but when texts are free what harm is it. People need to get with the times, this is how people communicate now-a-days.

    Saying i grew up without phone and so did my friends is really irrelevant tbh, you grew up in a time when they either didnt exist or were only becoming widespread, so of course you didnt have one, but times have changed.

    As i said, my little brother got one when he was 10, and it was very handy for me when I was looking after him anyway. We lived in an estate, which was very close to a couple of other estates, and he had friends from school in all them, and could be in any one of say 20 friends houses, and ringing him to see where he was is much easier than going to all the houses asking if he was there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Biggins wrote: »
    I think the general consensus is that around 12 to 14/15 is average age we broadly agree on.
    ...But giving a normal mobile phone to a 6 years old - even if it is more the exception than the norm' - for myself, I think is just more daftness than anything else.

    I'm genuinely open to be wrong though!
    Well as I said in my earlier post the first phone that I got (Not really "my" phone as such) I got when I was about 4. I knew how to use it perfectly well but I didn't have any real need for it. I just kept it because I loved messing around with it. I remember even disassembling it to have a look around when I was around six or so. Used to love doing stuff like that as a child. It really depends on the person in question. It was only around the time I was ten or so that I found some use for a phone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭Bob the Seducer


    I'd say when they start secondary school is about the right time, so not before 12 or 13. I got my first phone when I was in first year. (which I've just realised is around 12 years ago now :eek:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,239 ✭✭✭KittyeeTrix


    Have 4 kids myself aged 8,11,13 and 16.

    Initially I wasn't gonna give the eldest a mobile till he was 16 but he went to Secondary school at 13 which was 30km away. Made sense to give him a mobile then for contacting reasons and in hindsight he would've stuck out like a social misfit without a phone if he'd not had one till 16.

    Same happened with my 2nd lad who also only got one this year when he went to the same secondary school.

    My 11 year thinks it's daft that her buddies in school have fancy top of the market phones. Needless to say the last 2 kids won't be getting one till they too start Sec school:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Trevor451


    my friend is 15 and his parents got him a firefly phone :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    When I was growing up, no-one had mobile phones. You were lucky if you had a landline! In the first house we lived in, we were one of the few houses on the street that had a phone, so there was always neighbours calling in to use the phone & it wasn't uncommon for us to have to run up the road to tell a neighbour that there was a call for them on our phone!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    People saying that you should wait until your child is 15 to give them a phone are mad, tbh.

    Yuour child would be a social misfit without one, unfortunately. Anyone in my class who doesn't use their phone don't be out around town as much or going out, because they're too akward to get a hold of. Teenagers don't wanna ring house phones, either, it wastes credit and we're really shy.:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭Superbus


    Got my first when I was 10, was a glorified Gameboy for a couple of years, then became a necessity. Why a 6 year old would have one baffles me, my 6 year old nephew is barely past the phase of getting excited when his mum's phone lights up when he presses the buttons.

    It's kind of a symbol of independence. 6 year olds should have none. So they shouldn't have phones.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭we'llallhavetea_old


    Kids that young shouldn't be further from you then you can shout at them...


    syklops wrote: »
    A 6 year old should not be playing anywhere where it is faster to take out a mobile phone, dial daddy, and wait for him to answer, than to run into the house and find him.

    wtf? my daughter is 6, she goes to pony camp 2 days a week for the summer so she's away from me for the day.

    i haven't bought her a phone, but i have been thinking about one of those fireflies and i'll tell you why.

    when she's at pony camp i worry that she might get a bit jittery and want to come home, but not want to say it to the adults down there. i would not be giving it to her as a gift, it wouldn't be something to play with, it would be put in her bag and if she wanted me she could ring me.
    she wouldn't have anyone elses numbers either. and she would only have it while she was away from me.

    i don't see anything wrong with it tbh. i wouldn't make a big song and dance over her having a firefly, in fact i'd barely mention the fact that its a phone, i'd just tell her its more of a walkie talkie between the two of us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,239 ✭✭✭KittyeeTrix


    wtf? my daughter is 6, she goes to pony camp 2 days a week for the summer so she's away from me for the day.

    i haven't bought her a phone, but i have been thinking about one of those fireflies and i'll tell you why.

    when she's at pony camp i worry that she might get a bit jittery and want to come home, but not want to say it to the adults down there. i would not be giving it to her as a gift, it wouldn't be something to play with, it would be put in her bag and if she wanted me she could ring me.
    she wouldn't have anyone elses numbers either. and she would only have it while she was away from me.

    i don't see anything wrong with it tbh. i wouldn't make a big song and dance over her having a firefly, in fact i'd barely mention the fact that its a phone, i'd just tell her its more of a walkie talkie between the two of us.

    That's very understandable in fairness. I would only have a problem with 7 yr olds wandering around the front of their houses with expensive phones as that is unnecessary but what you describe is totally different and acceptable:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭rainbowdrop


    Am I the only one that's never heard of a 'firefly' phone?:confused:

    Must be even more out of touch with technology than I thought..... and I'm only 32!!


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