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Mobile Phones - When is it too young to have one?

  • 22-07-2010 12:48PM
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Was collecting two of my kids from cresh a while ago and a parent was informing me that she knew another parent who gave their child aged 6, a new mobile phone to keep and use.
    To be honest I was shocked. I though that 6 was way too young to be even contemplating giving a child such a thing at that age.

    Am I right in being shocked, am I just out of date (not "with it") or right in any way in thinking the parents should have waited a few more years before just handing over a phone to their child?

    I'm in two minds as to what's right or wrong!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    Maybe at 15-16 I'd think about letting them have one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    Its handy for picking kids up from school. Its probably one of them Firefly things.
    Maybe at 15-16 I'd think about letting them have one

    Didn't know the amish were allowed Internet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Banned Account


    Its handy for picking kids up from school.

    My parole officer would have something to say about that:(


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Carmelo Wide Second


    maybe if it was one of those restricted children's ones... but still...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 658 ✭✭✭MIRMIR82


    Biggins wrote: »
    Was collecting two of my kids from cresh a while ago and a parent was informing me that she knew another parent who gave their child aged 6, a new mobile phone to keep and use.
    To be honest I was shocked. I though that 6 was way too young to be even contemplating giving a child such a thing at that age.

    Am I right in being shocked, am I just out of date (not "with it") or right in any way in thinking the parents should have waited a few more years before just handing over a phone to their child?

    I'm in two minds as to what's right or wrong!

    Your dead right Biggins- 6 years of age is way too young to have a phone. My sister-in-law bought her young lad(9) a phone for christmas-he rang us all on x-mas day to tell us he had a phone and now it just lies on the bedroom floor!!
    Its just people with too much money and time on their hand.:( grrrrrrr


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    when thier a teenager or when their going out with their mates, no reall need for one before that

    or like one of those firefly things as pointed out, think they only accept calls from 2 or 4 preprogramed numbers and can only call 2 or 3 numbers as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭storm2811


    I'd give them one of those Firefly phones where than just ring their mum or dad,would be handy but at that age I'd say it's be more of a toy to them.

    Got my first phone when I was 12.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    I'd say give them a Firefly until they are in Secondry school.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 658 ✭✭✭MIRMIR82


    storm2811 wrote: »
    I'd give them one of those Firefly phones where than just ring their mum or dad,would be handy but at that age I'd say it's be more of a toy to them.

    Got my first phone when I was 12.

    Well if you got your 1st phone when you were 12 - you are obviously too young to worry about whether kids should have them or not!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    Why lag behind with modern day technology. If a 6 year old has a phone and knows how to use it, what's the problem?

    It adds some safety when they're out playing with daddy on speed dial when the latest law protected parole walking paedophile comes by for a chat. Or in any other, less drastic case.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    whenever they have enough money to buy and put credit on it them selves


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    bloody hell when i was 6 my dad wouldn't even let me have a walkman for fear I'd break the blooming thing...

    I dont see the point in kids having them at all... Adolescents / teens from about 15 / 16 up... so you can keep tabs on them when you're letting them go out that little bit later...

    Anyone who lets a kid younger then that have a phone "for peace of mind" so the kid can keep in contact with them is a fúcking moron. Kids that young shouldn't be further from you then you can shout at them...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Not until secondary school realy.
    And even then, they are supposed to be switched off in school hours or it'll be confiscated and given back at the end of the day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,221 ✭✭✭BluesBerry


    Its good children having mobiles and ring when you need them back home or for collecting them from school to let them know your running 5 mins late and to just wait

    10 year old went missing recently in a shopping center she rang me to say where she was and she didnt panic because she knew she had her mobile and felt safe, also the same child was walking home from school and there was 5 boys walking behind her messing with her calling her names she got very scared and texted me and I came down to collect her

    I personally think all children should own a phone and know how to use them for safety reasons


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Kids that young shouldn't be further from you then you can shout at them...
    To be honest that the way my mind was swaying.

    If they are that young, they are either with you or with someone you should absolutely trust.
    Having a standard phone at age 6 to me is a bit overboard.
    Never out of reach long enough anyway to warrant a phone because of distance to the nearest guardian.
    (It was standard phone the child mentioned in the first post, had. Not the Firefly type)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭storm2811


    MIRMIR82 wrote: »
    Well if you got your 1st phone when you were 12 - you are obviously too young to worry about whether kids should have them or not!!!

    Why?:pac:
    I know a lot about kids,I used to babysit fulltime and help out in the local creche.
    I know two 8 year olds who got phones for christmas and all they did was ring their relatives for a few months and play games,it was soon forgotten about,like any other childrens toy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Sitec wrote: »
    I think when they start secoundry school its ok for them to get a phone. Might make them a bit easier to make friends socially.

    can also be used as a bullying tool

    although its a bit sad that we are now that dependednt on mobiles, that they are being used as a social requirment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    storm2811 wrote: »
    Why?:pac:
    I know a lot about kids,I used to babysit fulltime and help out in the local creche.
    I know two 8 year olds who got phones for christmas and all they did was ring their relatives for a few months and play games,it was soon forgotten about,like any other childrens toy.

    +1

    all one of my little cousins did was play snake, and soon got board of that


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Biggins wrote: »
    To be honest that the way my mind was swaying.

    If they are that young, they are either with you or with someone you should absolutely trust.
    Having a standard phone at age 6 to me is a bit overboard.
    Never out of reach long enough anyway to warrant a phone because of distance to the nearest guardian.
    (It was standard phone the child mentioned in the first post, had. Not the Firefly type)

    Yeap... was the same thing for me as a kid and when I get round to having kids, will be taking the same approach.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Sitec wrote: »
    I think when they start secoundry school its ok for them to get a phone. Might make them a bit easier to make friends socially.

    Never before in human history has it been easier to make friends socially, why would it be easier if they have mobiles?
    It adds some safety when they're out playing with daddy on speed dial when the latest law protected parole walking paedophile comes by for a chat. Or in any other, less drastic case.

    A 6 year old should not be playing anywhere where it is faster to take out a mobile phone, dial daddy, and wait for him to answer, than to run into the house and find him.

    Also, it makes kids a target by both adults and older kids to have the mobile stolen off them, and it opens another route by which they can be bullied.

    The age at which you let the child in town on their own, is the age they should be ready for a phone.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    syklops wrote: »
    A 6 year old should not be playing anywhere where it is faster to take out a mobile phone, dial daddy, and wait for him to answer, than to run into the house and find him.

    Also, it makes kids a target by both adults and older kids to have the mobile stolen off them, and it opens another route by which they can be bullied.

    The age at which you let the child in town on their own, is the age they should be ready for a phone.


    Some very good points there. Cheers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭beccabeccabecca


    I don't see the need in giving a child a proper mobile phone until the start of secondary school. However, I wouldn't be opposed to a child over ten getting one of the Firefly phones purely because at that age they are starting to travel further or even have overnight stays with the extracurricular activities they're involved with so it would be handy to have some way of contacting them if anything goes wrong during these, more for peace of mind than anything else.

    I got my first phone when I was ten. It was my uncle's old one and all I did was learn how to play Snake and then left it there. Didn't use it again until I was twelve and all of my other friends had phones too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭deman


    My kids all got their first mobile phone when they were 8. At this age, (as the law says here), they are old enough to walk/cycle to school if they live within 2kms of the school. The mobile adds an extra sense of security to both parent and child. The phones they got were bottom-of-the-range cheap phones costing no more than 30 euros. We also had the network operator put restrictions on who could phone them, and who they could phone. It also teaches them to be responsible with things. Don't underestimate kids please. They have a massive learning ability and take to being able to use phones much faster than older people.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    deman wrote: »
    My kids all got their first mobile phone when they were 8. At this age, (as the law says here), they are old enough to walk/cycle to school if they live within 2kms of the school.

    I wouldn't let a kid that young walk up by themselves, they'd have to be with a big bunch of other kids from my area, or with a group of parents taking it in turns to go up and down.
    deman wrote: »
    Don't underestimate kids please. They have a massive learning ability and take to being able to use phones much faster than older people.

    Its not the ability to use phones, the issue is how it can become a scapegoat for responsiblitly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭alwaysadub


    I know loads of kids under 10 with a mobile. Personally, i wouldn't think of giving a phone to a child until they were 12 at the least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭deman


    I wouldn't let a kid that young walk up by themselves, they'd have to be with a big bunch of other kids from my area, or with a group of parents taking it in turns to go up and down.

    To tell you the truth, if I lived back in Ireland again, I wouldn't either.

    The kids don't walk alone. They walk and cycle in groups. And it's only in autumn and spring. Winters, they take a taxi (free until they reach 13).

    Everybody here, over the age of nine, has a mobile. It's nothing new or strange.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    deman wrote: »
    Winters, they take a taxi (free until they reach 13).

    Bloody hell ye have it made! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    I think they should have Bluetooth installed on their heads as soon as they are born.. that way you can go out to the pub without the expense of a baby sitter. If anything is wrong, sure they can give you a buzz.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    syklops wrote: »
    The age at which you let the child in town on their own, is the age they should be ready for a phone.
    Yeah, pretty much +1.

    I used to think that my kids would never get a mobile until they were at least 16, but with the absolute dependence on them I've realised that secondary school is about the right age; 13/14. Even at that they'll be required to pay for their own credit out of their pocket money and they can get a new phone once a year on their birthday or christmas. No way I'm paying for 50,000 "lol" texts a year or the latest phone every 3 months.

    I'll be a pain in the ass Dad though. Until they're at least 16, I'll be locking down their phones - who they ring/text, what they can access, etc. I'll even set it up so that when I ring they can't hang up or stick it on silent and it won't go to voicemail. It'll just ring and ring and ring at top volume until they pick up the phone to their Dad.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    I lived a kilometer from my school so walked home every day etc.... Society has become far too paranoid imho. Anyway I'd say the fairest age is when they're entering the 1st year of secondary school. :D

    I'd say those of ye saying that teens not having a mobile till they're 15 are being highly unrealistic, the times have changed and not having one till that age would be liable to result in bullying..... ;)


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