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ISF calibration

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭M00lers


    watty wrote: »
    I don't like to see people wasting money. A BD test disk, instructions and service menu will, in my opinion achieve the same.

    The whole point of these forums is not to sell stuff but exchange informed opinion and information.

    I'll be the first to agree that my "tone" can be abrasive. Calling my post "Crap" because the "tone" offended isn't helpful to debate.

    Gordon Fraser made very polite and reasoned comment to my comments, which I welcome.

    Watty,
    Bad choice of word on my part. Fair enough.
    I'll gladly pay someone to do it for me. I wouldn't sleep easy wondering if I did it correctly. Peace of mind is priceless.:D

    In the consumer A/V industry there are a lot of products that are a waste of money (too many to list) but I personally think ISF is worth it if you're into that sort of thing and don't have the time or required braincells to DIY.

    Gordon has on other forums shared info and helped countless people to grasp the idea of DIY calibration all without a hint of a sales pitch and I for one value his membership on boards.ie.

    Moo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭azzeretti


    I agree. I think Watty, your thoughts, while informative and no doubt accurate, would certainly be off putting to me if I was Gordon.

    I don't see why it is nessacary in a thread, that was tending towards creating a list of people who WANT to avail of this service, that you "put it up" to him as you did. Should we all post in the Gardening Forum or DIY forum or Music forum and tell everyone in there not to get in professional landscapers, builders or rent recording stuidos because these jobs can be performed by people themselves? There is no doubth that in any profession, someone with training will know more about the product that a lay person. It doesn't mean that everyone should download a PDF and start head first into things themselves!
    20 mins to you might equate to 2 weeks for some!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    To be fair I think Watty was putting foward what he sees as good/bad value in his opinion. @ azzeritti Something you have done yourself in the past :)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭azzeretti


    Tony wrote: »
    To be fair I think Watty was putting foward what he sees as good/bad value in his opinion. @ azzeritti Something you have done yourself in the past :)

    Touché.

    However, I mostly winge about prices being too high rather than trying to justify why someone, with no skills or experience, should just get stuck into to something that might be daunting to them............

    .......queue reems of thread links to where I can be clearly seen to be contradicting everthing I am saying here!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,461 ✭✭✭✭watty


    azzeretti wrote: »
    Should we all post in the Gardening Forum or DIY forum or Music forum and tell everyone in there not to get in professional landscapers,

    But if you are a Professional Landscape designer, you might have strong opinions about the need for and value for money of some companies products. I use that as an example, because you want to hear my mum on the subject. She has won awards for her work as a Professional Landscape Architect.

    I'm not suggesting something that requires a lot of time or a lot of training, A BD test disk and crib sheet, normal colour vision and ability to follow instructions. Also anything other than 3 x DLP + Dichroic filter is going to drift. So doing it once with a purchased BD disc or DVD (some films have a setup menu) is an investment to save time an money a 2nd time.

    More importantly, while agreeing the technique works, there is a strong argument that it's only required for Industrial Colour Matching, that a visual adjustment with test signals is sufficient. As someone that has actually setup monitors and cameras for the day job for many years, and with BBC training in the subject, I think I'm qualified to offer an opinion.

    What is skilled and nearly impossible is to do it without a test card :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    LOL yes to be fair to you your posts were price related.:)

    azzeretti wrote: »
    Touché.

    However, I mostly winge about prices being too high rather than trying to justify why someone, with no skills or experience, should just get stuck into to something that might be daunting to them............

    .......queue reems of thread links to where I can be clearly seen to be contradicting everthing I am saying here!!

    Owner: satellite.ie https://satellite.ie/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭eddiem74


    watty wrote: »
    I'm not suggesting something that requires a lot of time or a lot of training, A BD test disk and crib sheet, normal colour vision and ability to follow instructions.

    So where would one get all that? I've yet to find something simple or straightforward to follow.

    The best I have done so far is, I have gotten the DVE Essentials disk, and was able to use a couple of test patterns only after following a couple of basic videos on avforums on how to use them. I am no closer to using all the test patterns available, eventhough my projector does allow me enter menus to tweak RGB & Gamma settings, even though I am not sure what that might do. :o:)

    I would say however, even after my own basic calibration of contrast, brightness, color, and sharpness, it made a noticable difference. :pac:


  • Subscribers Posts: 3,704 ✭✭✭TCP/IP


    Guys I invited Gordon to Boards as a fellow member of AV Forums. He is not selling his wares he was doing me a favor and coming and having a chat. Watty we all know you are vastly skilled in this area but some people including myself would like a professional to take care of their screen I don't have the time or the want to do this myself. Lets all be welcoming and nice please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,490 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    I would imagine this is only really beneficial if you have a very, very nice setup that was expensive.

    Otherwise the phrase polishing a turd comes to mind.:D


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