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SugarHigh · 19-07-2010 01:46AM

Cheap Thrills! wrote: »

I never get stuck for bog roll now because I moved house, shop is 2 minutes walk these days!

I'm twice your age and on my second house. I don't do a weekly shop as supermarkets depress and bore me. I don't like to have to 'plan' a weekly shop or face starvation and using facewipes as TP. So where I live now everything is dandy and convenient!

But hey go for it, you seem to know all there is to know about buying property.

Shops depress and bore you so instead of going once a week and getting it over with you go more frequently?

I'm twice your age

Truly a great achievement.

face starvation

Those poor people in rural Ireland a whole 2 miles from a village constantly facing starvation.

Like I said before, rural Ireland isn't that rural.

So where I live now everything is dandy and convenient!

But being right beside these supermarkets also has it's negatives, like you said they depress and bore you yet they probably make up most of your scenery.

SugarHigh · 19-07-2010 01:49AM

feelingstressed wrote: »

This poster, it seems we are all lazy

I never said you needed to do it?

Are you seriously incapable of living without a shop right beside you? It would be easily possible to do all your shopping in one day and at most have to walk into the village once a week outside of that. You can even get all your shopping delivered. Honestly if you think living in sligo is like some bear grylls expedition then I'm surprised you can survive anywhere.

stepbar · 19-07-2010 01:49AM

SugarHigh wrote: »

I'd pay more for a house that's in the middle of nowhere tbh.

You would? :rolleyes:

God help the folk who paid 250k that's all I'll say.

BTW, based on a rent of 500 eur a month (if you could get 500 eur), the economic value of a house in Cliffoney would be 54k (based on 12 months rent less 10% for expenses divided by 10% rent yield x 100).

SugarHigh · 19-07-2010 01:52AM

gurramok wrote: »

So hows the bus service then?

You'd think that. Remember this is an estate deep in the countryside 20mins drive from a major town, you are entirely relying on people actually living in this estate and not treating it as a holiday home.

Why? Plenty of people live in one off housing and seem to survive.

So hows the bus service then?

Buy a bicycle and get your weekly shopping delivered or just buy a car which basically every family has anyway.

mikemac · 19-07-2010 01:53AM

SugarHigh wrote: »

I never said you needed to do it?

Are you seriously incapable of living without a shop right beside you? It would be easily possible to do all your shopping in one day and at most have to walk into the village once a week outside of that.

You never said anything, you wrote it.
What I wrote was walking two miles on a road when it is dark and raining in winter and there is no footpath is extremely dangerous.
Cycling isn't much safer either

If delivery is an option it's the best option if you don't drive

Cheap Thrills! · 19-07-2010 01:54AM

SugarHigh wrote: »

Shops depress and bore you so instead of going once a week and getting it over with you go more frequently?

I eat out most of the time, the rest of the time I pop to Spar etc. I spend no more than a few minutes per week in a shop, small shops at that.

SugarHigh wrote: »

Truly a great achievement.

I think so. You did ask me what age I was, was just answering you.

SugarHigh wrote: »

Those poor people in rural Ireland a whole 2 miles from a village constantly facing starvation.

The worst of both worlds is living in a satellite estate. You haven't the pleasure of a nice spacious detatched house as with proper country living and you haven't the advantages of transport, entertainment and shopping of city living. It's a pile of sh!te, I can say that from expierience. After 10 years you'll be sick of the sight of the place and BBQ's in yourn garden and the same local pub that you have to 'plan' to go to. No spontenaiety, no variety. Just the same sh!t, endlessly, for years.

SugarHigh wrote: »

Like I said before, rural Ireland isn't that rural.

Then what's the point? The worst of the city slapped in the middle of the country.

SugarHigh wrote: »

But being right beside these supermarkets also has it's negatives, like you said they depress and bore you yet they probably make up most of your scenery.

They don't. (You're kind of fond of assumptions aren't ya?) I look out on a lovely wide tree lined street, green fields in one direction and the sea just visible in the other. My Estate took time to develop but is maturing nicely now.

gurramok · 19-07-2010 01:56AM

SugarHigh wrote: »

Why? Plenty of people live in one off housing and seem to survive.

Buy a bicycle and get your weekly shopping delivered or just buy a car which basically every family has anyway.

Oh boy. You seriously cycle on rural Irish roads?

Hint: There are no cycle lanes on those pothole riddled tracks built from the 1800's.

SugarHigh · 19-07-2010 01:57AM

stepbar wrote: »

You would? :rolleyes:

God help the folk who paid 250k that's all I'll say.

BTW, based on a rent of 500 eur a month (if you could get 500 eur), the economic value of a house in Cliffoney would be 54k (based on 12 months rent less 10% for expenses divided by 10% rent yield x 100).

You would?

It's a better quality of life.

You seem to be forgetting there are people who are buying a home and not an investment.

SugarHigh · 19-07-2010 01:58AM

gurramok wrote: »

Oh boy. You seriously cycle on rural Irish roads?

Hint: There are no cycle lanes on those pothole riddled tracks built from the 1800's.

Plenty of people do so very safely. View the cycling forum their are people doing over 1000 miles a year on rural Irish roads.

gurramok · 19-07-2010 02:05AM

SugarHigh wrote: »

Plenty of people do so very safely. View the cycling forum their are people doing over 1000 miles a year on rural Irish roads.

On armoured bicycles?

mikemac · 19-07-2010 02:08AM

SugarHigh wrote: »

Plenty of people do so very safely. View the cycling forum their are people doing over 1000 miles a year on rural Irish roads.

A 1,000 miles a year is absolutely nothing

Maybe 20 weeks with decent weather, I know this is Ireland but say May to September.
That's a Sunday morning spin of 50 miles.
Even an unfit person on a decent bike will manage that.

I do read the cycling forum, people that manage twice that trip on Boards spins.

And the context of the post was cycling on a rural road with no street lighting and a heavy backpack on a dark, wet winter evening.
Don't tell me that's not dangerous

stepbar · 19-07-2010 02:11AM

SugarHigh wrote: »

It's a better quality of life.

You seem to be forgetting there are people who are buying a home and not an investment.

A better quality of life? It's no better or no different to living in a urban / city area. In fact you would probably be more isolated. I come from a rural setting and to be quite honest I would go mad if I moved home. Even a trip to the pub would be a nightmare.

Sorry but when I buy a "home" it will be my "investment". I won't be overpaying for it just because I'm not going to rent is out.

Across the border in Enniskillen, a friend of mine purchased a 3 bed semi detatched for 130k STG (c155k eur). I have yet to see a house in a similer sized town in the Republic (i.e of c13.5k people) for close to 155k.

SugarHigh · 19-07-2010 02:35AM

feelingstressed wrote: »

A 1,000 miles a year is absolutely nothing

Maybe 20 weeks with decent weather, I know this is Ireland but say May to September.
That's a Sunday morning spin of 50 miles.
Even an unfit person on a decent bike will manage that.

I do read the cycling forum, people that manage twice that trip on Boards spins.

And the context of the post was cycling on a rural road with no street lighting and a heavy backpack on a dark, wet winter evening.
Don't tell me that's not dangerous

It is dangerous so why would you do it?

If you read my post you would see that there is no reason to ever do that.

SugarHigh · 19-07-2010 02:36AM

stepbar wrote: »

A better quality of life? It's no better or no different to living in a urban / city area. In fact you would probably be more isolated. I come from a rural setting and to be quite honest I would go mad if I moved home. Even a trip to the pub would be a nightmare.

Sorry but when I buy a "home" it will be my "investment". I won't be overpaying for it just because I'm not going to rent is out.

Across the border in Enniskillen, a friend of mine purchased a 3 bed semi detatched for 130k STG (c155k eur). I have yet to see a house in a similer sized town in the Republic (i.e of c13.5k people) for close to 155k.

But that's you, obviously the people who bought the houses don't mind it so why does it matter if you do?

starbelgrade · 19-07-2010 03:06AM

Cliffoney is a nice spot, in one of the nicest parts of Ireland - full of beautiful landscapes & beaches and not too far from Sligo town.

That housing estate is a bit on the bland side however & the layouts are not great, but they seem reasonably enough priced.

However, I can see prices falling even lower - a building containing 10 or so 2 bedroom apartments in Coolaney (Co. Sligo) recently sold out in a few weeks after they had been empty & unsold for over 4 years.

Sale price? €50k.

Mackman · 19-07-2010 03:34AM

I cant belive how lazy/soft the city people posting here are.

-"oh no, there isnt a shop within 2 mins walk, im gonna starve/i cant wipe my arse" - prepare ffs, get everything you need when you're in the shop
-"there's no street lighting, its always dark" - not everyone is scared of the dark, and you can actually look at the stars on a clear night.
-"there's no cycle lanes, its too dangerous" - more cyclists get killed in cities than in the country
-"Pipes burst in winter!!!" - and they dont in cities?

Yeah living in the country requires more effort, but the benefits out weigh the hassle.

Cheap Thrills! · 19-07-2010 03:50AM

Mackman wrote: »

I cant belive how lazy/soft the city people posting here are.

-"oh no, there isnt a shop within 2 mins walk, im gonna starve/i cant wipe my arse" - prepare ffs, get everything you need when you're in the shop

No. I don't WANT to 'prepare' -I've got more important things to do with my free time than stockpile tinned spam for the Winter armaggeddon and commute 20 miles for a forgotton pack of skins or some such thing.

Check my signature...I ENJOY being lazy!!!

And as for being 'soft' heheh I'd say someone who pays EUR 125,000 for a house on an estate in the countryside when the country is awash with similar carbuncles is soft! SOFT IN THE HEAD !!!

Mackman · 19-07-2010 04:08AM

Cheap Thrills! wrote: »

No. I don't WANT to 'prepare' -I've got more important things to do with my free time than stockpile tinned spam for the Winter armaggeddon and commute 20 miles for a forgotton pack of skins or some such thing.

Stopping in a shop on the way home from work for some skins is too much hassle. Believe me, if you gorget them once, ya wont forget them again

19-07-2010 08:25AM

SugarHigh wrote: »

And the land to build it on?

Assuming 150k/acre and 20 houses an acre €7500 for the land under each house.

syklops · 19-07-2010 09:17AM

I cant belive how lazy/soft the city people posting here are.

-"oh no, there isnt a shop within 2 mins walk, im gonna starve/i cant wipe my arse" - prepare ffs, get everything you need when you're in the shop
-"there's no street lighting, its always dark" - not everyone is scared of the dark, and you can actually look at the stars on a clear night.
-"there's no cycle lanes, its too dangerous" - more cyclists get killed in cities than in the country
-"Pipes burst in winter!!!" - and they dont in cities?

Yeah living in the country requires more effort, but the benefits out weigh the hassle.

I think the point the "soft city folk" are making is that, this estate is neither a house in the country nor is it an estate in a suburb. It is a housing estate near a village in the country. Which means you don't get all the advantages of buying a one off house in the country, you get many of the negatives of estate living and none of the advantages of living in an urban or sub-urban environment.

19-07-2010 09:35AM

syklops wrote: »

I think the point the "soft city folk" are making is that, this estate is neither a house in the country nor is it an estate in a suburb. It is a housing estate near a village in the country. Which means you don't get all the advantages of buying a one off house in the country, you get many of the negatives of estate living and none of the advantages of living in an urban or sub-urban environment.

That's a good way of putting it, just goes to show how screwed the planning system was(and still is*).

*but I do know that in the past couple of years (after seeing the mess that they've allowed to be created) planning rules have been tightened up a lot, or should I say simply followed!

syklops · 19-07-2010 09:38AM

Don't you mean is?

LarrytheLantern · 19-07-2010 11:46AM

i know this area very well and it's a lovely spot.
natural beauty, serenity, convenience.
the crime rate is non-existant.
very handy for the odd shopping trip to Enniskillen too!

these houses would rent very well in the summer imo.

syklops · 19-07-2010 11:53AM

LarrytheLantern wrote: »

i know this area very well and it's a lovely spot.
natural beauty, serenity, convenience.
the crime rate is non-existant.
very handy for the odd shopping trip to Enniskillen too!

these houses would rent very well in the summer imo.

The crime rate may be non-existant now, but if all those houses get sold to couples with young families, in 10 years time when little johnnie and mary are now 16-17, living in an estate which is in the middle of nowhere, no local amenities, I would expect crime and anti-social behaviour to increase.

natural beauty, serenity, convenience.

What is this convenience you speak of?

super_furry · 19-07-2010 12:00PM

SugarHigh wrote: »

And the land to build it on?

Land in the Sligo hinterlands is worth next to nothing. Argicultural value only.

okedoke · 19-07-2010 12:29PM

By the way deposits were paid on only 6 of the 18 houses, the meaning of the word "frenzy" was stretched quite a bit here.

19-07-2010 12:58PM

okedoke wrote: »

By the way deposits were paid on only 6 of the 18 houses, the meaning of the word "frenzy" was stretched quite a bit here.

If that's a frenzy, I'd like to see what the property press would do if any of those sales complete!

mikom · 19-07-2010 01:04PM

Less a frenzy..... more a mild pawing.

Pherekydes · 19-07-2010 01:04PM

LarrytheLantern wrote: »

surely at these discounted prices, we've hit rock bottom?

i mean i could buy 1 or 2 for cash and rent them out.
even at €400 rent pm, it's more than i'll get in the bank.

You think 125k in Sligo is a discounted price? You can get 400pm in rent in Sligo? No wonder the economy is in ****e.

You have too much money. Give half of it to charity.

ablowick · 19-07-2010 01:31PM

Living in the country out weights the advantages of living in the city. How many people in city walk to the shop for milk. They all bring the car just like you do in the country. The view in the county out-weights the city.

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