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Possible Universal Vaccine

  • 16-07-2010 01:17AM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭


    A two-step flu vaccine using DNA to "prime" the immune system and then a traditional seasonal influenza vaccine may be able to protect against all strains of the virus -- providing a long-sought "universal" flu vaccine, U.S. researchers said on Thursday.

    The team at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases is already testing the new vaccine in people and says the results of tests in mice, ferrets and monkeys suggest the industry may finally be able to dump the cumbersome process of making fresh flu vaccines every year.

    "This is the first step, conceptually, toward a good shot at a universal vaccine," NIAID Director Dr. Anthony Fauci said in a telephone interview.

    Every year, the influenza strains that are circulating mutate a little bit and at any given time several very different strains are infecting people. In some years a new mutant pops up -- such as the new H1N1 swine flu strain that appeared in March 2009 to spark a pandemic.

    Vaccine makers have to change their formulations every year to match the current strains. To make matters worse, virtually all flu vaccines are made using decades-old technology based on chicken eggs that is both slow and prone to contamination.

    So the goal is to come up with a universal influenza vaccine that could protect people from all flu strains for decades or even for life.

    NIAID's Dr. Gary Nabel said his lab has taken a big step toward this goal. Their method, described in the journal Science, starts with a piece of DNA based on the hemagglutinin protein -- a mushroom-shaped structure on the outside of the virus that gives flu strains the "H" in their names.

    The DNA directs the body to make antibodies against a part of the flu virus that is normally hidden -- on the "stem" of the hemagglutinin protein. This part is conserved, meaning it does not change from flu strain to flu strain.

    OLD AND NEW STRAINS

    Vaccinated mice and ferrets produced antibodies that protected them against flu strains from 1934 through 2007.

    "We are excited by these results," Nabel said. "The prime-boost approach opens a new door to vaccinations for influenza that would be similar to vaccination against such diseases as hepatitis, where we vaccinate early in life and then boost immunity through occasional, additional inoculations in adulthood."

    The vaccine, which uses DNA from Netherlands-based Crucell NV, "looks pretty safe," Fauci said. "They are already well into, at least a full year into, a Phase 1 trial."

    Such trials are meant to see if a new drug or vaccine is safe in people. A larger, Phase 2 trial could start next year, Fauci said.

    Seasonal influenza kills 250,000 to 500,000 people a year globally, including 36,000 in the United States. Pandemics often kill more and while H1N1 has not been especially deadly, it has killed far more children, young adults and pregnant women than seasonal flu usually does.

    The experimental vaccine protected animals against H5N1 bird flu, as well. While avian influenza only rarely infects people, it has killed 296 of the 500 sickened by it since 2003.

    Flu experts fear H5N1 could mutate and cause a pandemic far worse than swine flu and, using current vaccine technology, it will take months to formulate a good vaccine against it. Swine flu made its spread global within six weeks.

    Dozens of companies make influenza vaccines, including Sanofi Aventis, GlaxoSmithKline, Novartis, AstraZeneca and CSL.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE66E7BM20100715

    T'would be great not having to hear the same ****e every year about another form of flu...... :D


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Flu experts fear H5N1 could mutate and cause a pandemic far worse than swine flu
    Oh God, NOOOOOOO!. Something worse than swine flu? Like, dare I say it, a bad cold?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    It'll never happen, there's no money in cures!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭laugh


    I'v never had the flu, you just need to clone me and do away with the rest of the human race.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    laugh wrote: »
    I'v never had the flu, you just need to clone me and do away with the rest of the human race.
    Go where there are people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    This is a joke.

    The pharmaceutical companies made billions on the exaggerated swine flu hysteria, now they're rolling out this pack of lies to bump up their share price.

    They fooled us once, not again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭Brendog


    seriously ....think about it. Its not going to happen!

    so i guess I'll throw the question back ACHOO to answer:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Corkfeen wrote: »
    Possible Universal Vaccine

    Why would anyone want to vaccinate a tractor?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    vaccines for everyone...... no way. smells dodgy. maybe it comes with a free microchip?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    *awaits run to da hills photoshop*


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Weird, one of the funds in work invests in those companies.. The fukers must be hoping for a pandemic.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Have they not seen Mission Impossible II?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Jim Corr where are you now when we need you the most?




    Oh wait - here he is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    It'll never happen, there's no money in cures!
    :rolleyes:
    How do you explain all the existing vaccines then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    :rolleyes:
    How do you explain all the existing vaccines then?

    Many are ordered and often paid for by the government.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Corkfeen wrote: »
    Possible Universal Vaccine

    I have it, only works on the ladies though.....aweeeee yeahhhhhh. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    This is a joke.

    The pharmaceutical companies made billions on the exaggerated swine flu hysteria, now they're rolling out this pack of lies to bump up their share price.

    They fooled us once, not again.


    There are a lot of people that are not in this "us" you speak of!

    Idiots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,447 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I smell a rat.
    They never referenced the original research publication. I've tried looking it up to no avail. It's not even listed on the author's home page.
    The findings are probably blown out of all proportion as well. Some of you might remember this from The Sun who had a 2 page feature on it with a headline describing it as a new AIDS vaccine.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    Will it help manflu sufferers? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,791 ✭✭✭up for anything


    No time to waste here. Heading to conspiracy forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,096 ✭✭✭conorhal


    "Life will find a way"

    I'd not be too optimistic, when we discovered antibiotics we thought that we'd finally conquered the microbe, how wrong we were, and now ,as we run out of effective antibiotics, the microbe is back and more agressive than ever, jaysus these days the thought of going into a hospital is often scarier than the injury that brings you there.

    I wonder how the flu will adapt to this challenge?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Howard the Duck


    Oh God, NOOOOOOO!. Something worse than swine flu? Like, dare I say it, a bad cold?

    Although not as bad as expected a lot of people died from swine that wouldn't have died from normal flu. A number of people with CF died for instance. It annoys me when people act as if it was nothing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    It'll never happen, there's no money in cures!
    A vaccine isn't a cure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,814 ✭✭✭BaconZombie


    FUD!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,194 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    I've never really been affected by the cold/flu. Even when my whole family where sick, I remained healthy.

    Let the body do it's work, don't take paracetemol/other 'medicines' as this only gets rid of the symptoms not the infection. Runny noses may be annoying but the snot is actually mucous designed to trap and kill bacteria/viruses! Coughing pushes it into the stomach, where the acid will kill it muahahahaha. Or the body may expel it :/


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    It's hardly universal, it's just for flu...

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    I saw the title and thought the Universe needed a shot....:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I'd trust the nastiest of flu viruses more than I would the suits selling the idea of a vaccine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,447 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I'd trust the nastiest of flu viruses more than I would the suits selling the idea of a vaccine

    This attitude does my head in. Don't trust the suits, look for well-conducted trials and trust those.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    This attitude does my head in. Don't trust the suits, look for well-conducted trials and trust those.

    Look for the ghost writers that big-pharma companies employ to document the findings of those trials

    look for the conflicts of interest that transcend the entire industry


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    Corkfeen wrote: »
    A two-step flu vaccine using DNA to "prime" the immune system and then a traditional seasonal influenza vaccine may be able to protect against all strains of the virus -- providing a long-sought "universal" flu vaccine, U.S. researchers said on Thursday.

    No thanks

    http://www.fightbackh1n1.com/2009/08/who-memos-1972-explains-how-to-turn.html


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