Irish australian-going sheeple.

g5fd6ow0hseima · 13-07-2010 02:13AM

sponsoredwalk wrote: »

Got to love elitist loners who, in their loneliness, build up a fantasy about the others & their habits.

My advice to you is, instead of secretly judging them, talking to people who go to Oz & finding out why they are going.

Tarring a whole race with one brush is so foolish that any genuine question in your post has been rendered obsolete
and could easily be shown to be wrong with a few personal stories but, for the future, it might help to quit judging others
with that internal monologue of elitism that many people unfortunately
choose to express themselves through.

Life isn't all about divisions and hate

I doubt the OP is referring to every single person on this island, moreso the collective mentality of the Irish people. From my experience, the Irish arent very willing to do things on their own. I've came across many people who wouldnt even go to a gig or the cinema on their own - what the hell???

When I went interrailing on my own I thought I was so daring because nearly everybody here was saying it was a brave thing to do, yet when I arrived in the hostels, most people in them were on their own and it was only then that I realised I wasnt daring in the slightest, but perhaps I was brave by Irish standards.

And yeah, it seems that most Irish people who go to 'Oz' end up hanging out with other Irish people, getting flats with them, drinking with them etc... I asked a lot of aussies I met in Europe did they have any Irish friends and the usual answer I got was 'nah they kinda keep among themselves'.

steddyeddy · 13-07-2010 02:24AM

Iris Vast Whirlpool wrote: »

Now I might be completely off the mark here but over the last while I've noticed a trend. I don't mean to be not very politically correct but I think that your average Irishman or girl who decides to go to Australia or god forbid "Oz" seems to be a bit of a SEE YOU N T. I don't understand why these people go to Australia. I've never been there. Nor do I want to go there. But I just don't understand for the life of me why Irish people want to go there.

For starters. Every Australian I've ever met anywhere in the world couldn't wait to get out of the place?

The place is full of Irish people. It's like Ireland with hot weather and the country itself wants to kill you.

I have a theory that Irish people are in fact just brain dead and cannot think for themselves. Everyone goes to Australia because apparently it's great "craic" and that's where all their mates go. Is it just me or are the Irish a very non independent race unwilling to do anything alone or that their friends would not approve of. People don't think for themselves here and tend to just do the done thing. I know some people who wouldn't go for a pint on their own. In most of europe this is perfectly acceptable. It's the same with the cinema. I get called a loner just because if I want to see a film badly and nobody else does I'll go myself. A bit of a freak I am.

This brings me to my last point. Maybe Irish people just go to Australia, Britain and USA etc because they speak the language. Now am I wrong in thinking that this a completely Irish thing. I mean other people have no problem learning a language. Why do we?

And I'm not even going to mention people who think they are culturally enlightened because they've "done Oz".

Couldnt agree with you more mate, most people i know went because most of their pre existing group was going. the more adventurous people i know went to places like america or alaska on their own!

steddyeddy · 13-07-2010 02:25AM

By the way i wouldnt say the people who go there are stupid or c*nts its just for me anyway a bit of a boring choice

steddyeddy · 13-07-2010 02:27AM

strobe wrote: »

I'm with you OP, why anyone would want to go to Australia is beyond me. From what I can see all the country has to offer is great weather, stunning beaches, unique and diverse wildlife, breath taking natural scenery that varies from red stone deserts to lush tropical rainforests, loads of jobs that pay well, nice beer, beautiful women with cracking beach bodies left right and fukking centre, and one of most widely envied and copied tourist infrastructures in the entire world..........it's a total mystery alright....

that is true but theres a thousand and one countries with better of all the above and people fail to see it.

steddyeddy · 13-07-2010 02:29AM

Cullen82 wrote: »

This!! Haha I'm surprised you have'nt been completely lashed out of it for your thread OP although you do have some valid points in there.

Hope this is'nt off topic but what makes me cringe everytime is when I hear someone I know talking about how they've "travelled" knowing they've just gone on the piss for 6 months somewhere swarmed with tourists and actually seen or experienced f%^k all.

In saying that I'd normally like to keep that opinion to myself as I find with traveller/backpackers there's too much snobbery competition attached to who's gone where and who's done what!

your my hero of the day, traveling in my book is going somewhere and experiencing the culture, i know someone who went to perth in oz stayed the exact same place for four years and basically was a holiday alcoholic! travelin me hole!

Adamisconfused · 13-07-2010 02:39AM

Canada is the place to be. It's amazing to see a country that is run properly when you stop and look around at the mess we've made. Plus, their summers can be damn hot.

Dave! · 13-07-2010 03:12AM

Great thread, would read again

Xavi6 · 13-07-2010 03:13AM

Lu Tze wrote: »

Dublin forum
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Australia and New Zealand Forum
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No thanks

It's nice to get out of the goldfish bowl for a while and see a few new places, meet people and generally have a great time.

Best decision I ever made.

Ozil · 13-07-2010 03:27AM

snyper wrote: »

Whats see you N T?

See you NT, hello Windows 7 !

Diddler82 · 13-07-2010 03:46AM

I came over because I wanted to try something new away from Ireland.

Why knock people who are bold enough to take the jump and move abroad away from their friends and family regardless of where it is?

K-9 · 13-07-2010 03:47AM

Xavi6 wrote: »

No thanks

It's nice to get out of the goldfish bowl for a while and see a few new places, meet people and generally have a great time.

Best decision I ever made.

Looks at mod list, yes, that would be Donegal.

maninasia · 13-07-2010 03:51AM

What's travelling, it's only surface stuff anyway. Learning a foreign language, living and working with the locals ove a period of years..that's the real deal.

Xavi6 · 13-07-2010 04:07AM

K-9 wrote: »

Looks at mod list, yes, that would be Donegal.

I've zero connection with Donegal (apart from going to the Gaeltacht there), merely helping out the forum mods in a busy time

Rabies · 13-07-2010 04:20AM

I think the OP is grumpy because he can't afford to travel.
Sitting back home in the mixed Irish weather wondering what the far side of the world is like.
Checking out different cities along the day, exploring OZ, meeting new people. Taking weekend trips to Tasmania or NZ.
Great beaches and unique wildlife. Vast expanse to explore.

But if you're one the many Irish that go and stay in Bondi Junction, then you might as well stay at home.

ricman · 13-07-2010 07:12AM

I presume they go there theres lots of jobs ,its a democratic country ,the weather is good,they speak english.
it has a good school system ,they actually build proper schools there rather than rent out
portacabins for 20 years.And the banks did not try and destroy the economy.And they have a good health system.
i can think of worst places to live.And they are not taking on 60billion in debt to save stupid bankers.Maybe its better than going to an arabic country where you can get arrested for kissing a female friend in public.
IF A PERSON goes to another country ,theres a reason ,they need to work,even people with degrees are finding it hard to get jobs here.

bigbadbear · 13-07-2010 07:50AM

I reckon the Irish stick to themselves because the alternative is talking to the Aussies. I've had more craic during a minutes silence than I have with some Australian people I've met. I would say Australia is just like Ireland just more beaches and hot weather. I definitely want to see it at some stage but I reckon I'd be popping cyanide tablets if I had to stay there for too long.

I'd love to meet Alf though......

brendansmith · 13-07-2010 07:56AM

OP is right.

Everyone who travels to Australia is a c unt.

Xavi6 · 13-07-2010 08:01AM

bigbadbear wrote: »

I reckon the Irish stick to themselves because the alternative is talking to the Aussies. I've had more craic during a minutes silence than I have with some Australian people I've met. I would say Australia is just like Ireland just more beaches and hot weather. I definitely want to see it at some stage but I reckon I'd be popping cyanide tablets if I had to stay there for too long.

I'd love to meet Alf though......

A lot of assumptions there.

How many Australians do you know to have formed that opinion? Seeing as you've never been here.

Minstrel27 · 13-07-2010 08:07AM

Iris Vast Whirlpool wrote: »

Now I might be completely off the mark here but over the last while I've noticed a trend. I don't mean to be not very politically correct but I think that your average Irishman or girl who decides to go to Australia or god forbid "Oz" seems to be a bit of a SEE YOU N T. I don't understand why these people go to Australia. I've never been there. Nor do I want to go there. But I just don't understand for the life of me why Irish people want to go there.

My brother went there for a year but has now a family and good job over there. I wouldn't call him a cúnt.

syklops · 13-07-2010 08:46AM

maninasia wrote: »

What's travelling, it's only surface stuff anyway. Learning a foreign language, living and working with the locals ove a period of years..that's the real deal.

Souhlasím s ním.

Mackman · 13-07-2010 08:47AM

I agree, spending a year drinking in the Rocks in Sydney is not travelling.

But not all the Irish that come over here do that. And if they do, so what? let 'em off. Its their loss for not taking advantage of their situation.

Stinicker · 13-07-2010 10:08AM

In Australia now, (Perth last week) ( but in Melbourne right now) alot of what the OP said is both accurate and way off about the Irish over here. Alot of the backpackers are pure knobs, full of liberal commy bull**** beliefs and spending there days drinking and smoking weed (I kid you not :eek:)

I thought and hoped hippys were dead but sadly are still alive and kicking in hostels throughout Australia. For the experience and crack we stayed in Hostels for a few nights and it was both depressing and great fun, the general dirtyness and noiseness forced us out to Hotels in the finish. It was far from cultured and I have far more time for the genuine Emigrant to Australia than a whackjob hippy backbacker type who has overstayed his WHV for about 2 years.

Lloyd Xmas · 13-07-2010 10:09AM

I've been in Australia for the last seven months and I think its a great place, however it does depend on how each person approaches their trip. I came out here on my own and have travelled up the east coast so far, doing and seeing many things that are unique to Australia and not available in Ireland. I do avoid my fellow citizens like the plague as those i've met tend to be obnoxious drunken gombeens who for some reason feel the need to act like hard shaws. Perhaps this compensates for a serious inferiority complex. It's not everyone, but there's a fair share.
Its unfortunate, as we've a bit of a bad rep tbh.
Anyway, Australia is packed with great things to do and see and you generally get the weather for it also. It's well worth a visit, even for a few weeks.

eightyfish · 13-07-2010 01:04PM

Iris Vast Whirlpool wrote: »

For starters. Every Australian I've ever met anywhere in the world couldn't wait to get out of the place?

You'll find that's the case with a lot of people who moved from their home country abroad. It's prerequisite.

Iris Vast Whirlpool wrote: »

The place is full of Irish people.

Depends on where you go.

I'm going to Australia in two months for a year... maybe two, maybe more. Why? I've been before, to visit a friend, and loved Sydney. I've half an eye on moving to a brighter country eventually because the weather here depresses the hell out of me. This year will be the last year I'm eligible for a working visa, and I've just finished a degree.

Is it ideal? No. If I could pick anywhere I'd live in Kerela in southern India. But they all speak Malayalam and get paid pittens. I'm using the trip down under to visit India for a month on the way. It's win-win.

Australia is warm, bright, vast, English speaking, fun, and very open to Irish people. I might hate it after a few months and come back. I may want to stay. Either way, it'll be an adventure while it lasts.

Iris Vast Whirlpool wrote: »

I have a theory that Irish people are in fact just brain dead and cannot think for themselves.

You're criticising people for going to a place you've never been. Go figure.

bonerm · 13-07-2010 01:16PM

Wow Australia sounds great. I'm going to go there right now for weeks hols. See you next Tuesday, everyone!

the_monkey · 13-07-2010 01:29PM

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Why dont you go then?

Cos im 32

Lurching · 13-07-2010 01:29PM

Whats the problem? I came to Australia because there was shag all work in Ireland, the pay is good here, weathers good, they speak the same language and theres like minded people around. I don't see it as a "cultural experience" or whatever the OP was sh1ting on about.

I've done South America etc, great places to travel etc, but not a great place to make good money.

I think its a bit hypocritical to judge if you've never even been there.

Dr.Sanchez · 13-07-2010 01:33PM

I think it all boils down to jealousy!

brianthebard · 13-07-2010 01:37PM

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

What I find funny is people calling it "travelling". ah ha ha. Like you are brave getting a ****e job halfway round the world

How much work is going here atm? Do you know how much you get paid for your so called ****e jobs in Australia versus here? :rolleyes:

dancingqueen · 13-07-2010 01:41PM

D-Generate wrote: »

I am a big fan of this exodus of Irish people going to Australia simply because it was all the tossers from secondary school/university who hadn't an ounce or worth ethic and were messers/knobs. Good riddance to those! Irelands brain-drain seems to be more Canada/UK in my opinion.

Australia seems to be the mecca for bellends of the world. The Australian girls that I have met have invariably been sound out but the guys have been generally pig-ignorant and racist and/or homophobic. And thats my opinion on the guys who should be somewhat enlightened having traipsed around youth hostels all over the world, god knows what some of the others are like.

I lived with an Australian girl. She worked here. Complained about everything Irish, it's too cold to go swimming here (a pool), the weather forecaster is weird, they are not peppers, they are capsicums, I don't like the food here, I don't like public transport here, I don't like the rain.

Noone MADE YOU COME HERE! F**K off home. Irritating bint she was.

My uncle moved out there years ago himself, and raised his kids there. Now he is like her - complaining about everything that is not Australian.

Saps.

Irish australian-going sheeple.

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