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Irish australian-going sheeple.

  • 12-07-2010 10:24pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 564 ✭✭✭2ygb4cmqetsjhx


    Now I might be completely off the mark here but over the last while I've noticed a trend. I don't mean to be not very politically correct but I think that your average Irishman or girl who decides to go to Australia or god forbid "Oz" seems to be a bit of a SEE YOU N T. I don't understand why these people go to Australia. I've never been there. Nor do I want to go there. But I just don't understand for the life of me why Irish people want to go there.

    For starters. Every Australian I've ever met anywhere in the world couldn't wait to get out of the place?

    The place is full of Irish people. It's like Ireland with hot weather and the country itself wants to kill you.

    I have a theory that Irish people are in fact just brain dead and cannot think for themselves. Everyone goes to Australia because apparently it's great "craic" and that's where all their mates go. Is it just me or are the Irish a very non independent race unwilling to do anything alone or that their friends would not approve of. People don't think for themselves here and tend to just do the done thing. I know some people who wouldn't go for a pint on their own. In most of europe this is perfectly acceptable. It's the same with the cinema. I get called a loner just because if I want to see a film badly and nobody else does I'll go myself. A bit of a freak I am.

    This brings me to my last point. Maybe Irish people just go to Australia, Britain and USA etc because they speak the language. Now am I wrong in thinking that this a completely Irish thing. I mean other people have no problem learning a language. Why do we?

    And I'm not even going to mention people who think they are culturally enlightened because they've "done Oz".


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭the keen edge


    Totally agree with you.

    South America, India or even continental Europe would be much more interesting places to spend a year IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Now I might be completely off the mark here...

    Well done, you got exactly one thing right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    I'm 21. I've been to a nightclub about 5-6 times in my life. I think they are ****e.

    Sums it up really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 Ericka89


    Yeah, Australia does try to kill you. It's evil, a week there to see my cousin and realised he's bat-sh!t crazy for moving there :rolleyes:. But, he does have a great job. So maybe for the opportunities also?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    Would like to go, but only if i can get a day return ticket


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    OP, i hear ya, up to a point. Your main problem is that this forum is choc full of these so called "See You N Ts" - So you'll get very little sympathy here!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    Not going to Australia for a year is one of my great regrets, true maybe South America , Africa , Asia are more interesting but Australia is a fantastic place, you can get great work experience + language is english.



    To say only idiots go there is a bit much frankly, you get idiots going everywhere - easy to avoid and make it your own unique trip.

    I did the J1 twice (USA) (and 1 illegal ;) ) and each time I stayed away from the large Irish crowds and had a great time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    What I find funny is people calling it "travelling". ah ha ha. Like you are brave getting a ****e job halfway round the world and it will change your life. Not making judgements on people who do it, do what you want if it makes you happy, I just dont know why no body goes any where else. You could sit on your arse for six months in south east Asia for the money you will need to get there. Just dont get it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,498 ✭✭✭Lu Tze


    Dublin forum
    >

    Australia and New Zealand Forum
    >


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    The key is keeping away from Irish people.

    It doesnt matter where you go, you wont enjoy it if it feels like home.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Not going to Australia for a year is one of my great regrets, true maybe South America , Africa , Asia are more interesting but Australia is a fantastic place, you can get great work experience + language is english.



    To say only idiots go there is a bit much frankly, you get idiots going everywhere - easy to avoid and make it your own unique trip.

    I did the J1 twice (USA) (and 1 illegal ;) ) and each time I stayed away from the large Irish crowds and had a great time.

    Why dont you go then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    Whats see you N T?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭sponsoredwalk


    I have a theory that Irish people are in fact just brain dead and cannot think for themselves. Everyone goes to Australia because apparently it's great "craic" and that's where all their mates go. Is it just me or are the Irish a very non independent race unwilling to do anything alone or that their friends would not approve of. People don't think for themselves here and tend to just do the done thing.

    Got to love elitist loners who, in their loneliness, build up a fantasy about the others & their habits.

    My advice to you is, instead of secretly judging them, talking to people who go to Oz & finding out why they are going.

    Tarring a whole race with one brush is so foolish that any genuine question in your post has been rendered obsolete
    and could easily be shown to be wrong with a few personal stories but, for the future, it might help to quit judging others
    with that internal monologue of elitism that many people unfortunately
    choose to express themselves through.

    Life isn't all about divisions and hate ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭ElaElaElano


    snyper wrote: »
    Whats see you N T?

    It's a term used for you.

    Australia wouldn't be for me at all. Don't like hot weather and I find if I get stuck watching Home and Away that I have an urge to reach for the kitchen knife.

    So mix that fúcking accent with a few of ours, and it sounds a little bit like hell. Or prison. Which is what it is anyway

    I'm moving to Canada or maybe Seattle in a few months, cold weather ftw.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    I'm with you OP, why anyone would want to go to Australia is beyond me. From what I can see all the country has to offer is great weather, stunning beaches, unique and diverse wildlife, breath taking natural scenery that varies from red stone deserts to lush tropical rainforests, loads of jobs that pay well, nice beer, beautiful women with cracking beach bodies left right and fukking centre, and one of most widely envied and copied tourist infrastructures in the entire world..........it's a total mystery alright....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 438 ✭✭Cullen82


    Agricola wrote: »
    OP, i hear ya, up to a point. Your main problem is that this forum is choc full of these so called "See You N Ts" - So you'll get very little sympathy here!

    This!! Haha I'm surprised you have'nt been completely lashed out of it for your thread OP although you do have some valid points in there.


    Hope this is'nt off topic but what makes me cringe everytime is when I hear someone I know talking about how they've "travelled" knowing they've just gone on the piss for 6 months somewhere swarmed with tourists and actually seen or experienced f%^k all.

    In saying that I'd normally like to keep that opinion to myself as I find with traveller/backpackers there's too much snobbery competition attached to who's gone where and who's done what!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    snyper wrote: »
    Whats see you N T?
    Cúnt.
    Personal abuse abounds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    I don't mind people who just go to Australia and do their thing, but when they go on and on and on about it, like it's some kind of wonderous place, and if you haven't been there, then you haven't lived....it's really irritating.

    But perhaps most irritating is..... "Oz".

    It's AUSTRALIA!


    And please stop with this J1 business too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 675 ✭✭✭Dr.Sanchez


    I spent a year in Australia, any Irish people I've met there were in the Cities. They claim their traveling but don't budge from the place they got off the plane.

    Now if you ask me, I think theres no difference between Sydney and Dublin besides the weather, all cities are pretty much the same to me.

    I got a job on the Great Barrier Reef and spent the best part of the year living on an island out there. Then spent the remaining few months traveling through the outback, trying to avoid cities as much as I could.

    Oh and by the way, theres actually more Germans than Irish out there at the moment!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Australia is a dump, spent a few months there could not wait to get out, there far more arrogant than ignorant than any American, racist and cant even speak proper english everything is slang.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Australia is a dump, spent a few months there could not wait to get out, there far more arrogant than ignorant than any American, racist and cant even speak proper english everything is slang.
    Awesome.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 675 ✭✭✭Dr.Sanchez


    Australia is a dump, spent a few months there could not wait to get out, there far more arrogant than ignorant than any American, racist and cant even speak proper english everything is slang.

    Well in all fairness...
    • Every country has arrogant and ignorant people!
    • Every country has people who are racist!
    • Every country speaks in their own slang!

    And judging from your post, you come across as two out of three of these points!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭CiaranC


    I dont know which I hate more, sad tossers whove never been anywhere except tenerife for two weeks slagging people who go off for a year to check some place out, or Australians.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 675 ✭✭✭Dr.Sanchez


    orourkeda wrote: »
    The key is keeping away from Irish people.

    It doesnt matter where you go, you wont enjoy it if it feels like home.

    Yeah, couldn't agree with you more!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    I bet dr.bollocko is pissed off he's missing out on this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Dylan did it much better:

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    I bet dr.bollocko is pissed off he's missing out on this thread.


    Yeah, think it's his favourite destination of all time...a "Fairytale" country I believe he called it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,945 ✭✭✭D-Generate


    I am a big fan of this exodus of Irish people going to Australia simply because it was all the tossers from secondary school/university who hadn't an ounce or worth ethic and were messers/knobs. Good riddance to those! Irelands brain-drain seems to be more Canada/UK in my opinion.

    Australia seems to be the mecca for bellends of the world. The Australian girls that I have met have invariably been sound out but the guys have been generally pig-ignorant and racist and/or homophobic. And thats my opinion on the guys who should be somewhat enlightened having traipsed around youth hostels all over the world, god knows what some of the others are like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,745 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    Never appealed to me tbh. A lot of people come back saying they spent the time drinking away with people they knew from home, that they prob wouldnt talk to at home. It doesnt make sense it mocks sense!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭ElaElaElano


    Australia is a dump, spent a few months there could not wait to get out, there far more arrogant than ignorant than any American, racist and cant even speak proper English everything is slang.

    Hmm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,787 ✭✭✭g5fd6ow0hseima


    Got to love elitist loners who, in their loneliness, build up a fantasy about the others & their habits.

    My advice to you is, instead of secretly judging them, talking to people who go to Oz & finding out why they are going.

    Tarring a whole race with one brush is so foolish that any genuine question in your post has been rendered obsolete
    and could easily be shown to be wrong with a few personal stories but, for the future, it might help to quit judging others
    with that internal monologue of elitism that many people unfortunately
    choose to express themselves through.

    Life isn't all about divisions and hate ;)
    I doubt the OP is referring to every single person on this island, moreso the collective mentality of the Irish people. From my experience, the Irish arent very willing to do things on their own. I've came across many people who wouldnt even go to a gig or the cinema on their own - what the hell???

    When I went interrailing on my own I thought I was so daring because nearly everybody here was saying it was a brave thing to do, yet when I arrived in the hostels, most people in them were on their own and it was only then that I realised I wasnt daring in the slightest, but perhaps I was brave by Irish standards.

    And yeah, it seems that most Irish people who go to 'Oz' end up hanging out with other Irish people, getting flats with them, drinking with them etc... I asked a lot of aussies I met in Europe did they have any Irish friends and the usual answer I got was 'nah they kinda keep among themselves'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Now I might be completely off the mark here but over the last while I've noticed a trend. I don't mean to be not very politically correct but I think that your average Irishman or girl who decides to go to Australia or god forbid "Oz" seems to be a bit of a SEE YOU N T. I don't understand why these people go to Australia. I've never been there. Nor do I want to go there. But I just don't understand for the life of me why Irish people want to go there.

    For starters. Every Australian I've ever met anywhere in the world couldn't wait to get out of the place?

    The place is full of Irish people. It's like Ireland with hot weather and the country itself wants to kill you.

    I have a theory that Irish people are in fact just brain dead and cannot think for themselves. Everyone goes to Australia because apparently it's great "craic" and that's where all their mates go. Is it just me or are the Irish a very non independent race unwilling to do anything alone or that their friends would not approve of. People don't think for themselves here and tend to just do the done thing. I know some people who wouldn't go for a pint on their own. In most of europe this is perfectly acceptable. It's the same with the cinema. I get called a loner just because if I want to see a film badly and nobody else does I'll go myself. A bit of a freak I am.

    This brings me to my last point. Maybe Irish people just go to Australia, Britain and USA etc because they speak the language. Now am I wrong in thinking that this a completely Irish thing. I mean other people have no problem learning a language. Why do we?

    And I'm not even going to mention people who think they are culturally enlightened because they've "done Oz".

    Couldnt agree with you more mate, most people i know went because most of their pre existing group was going. the more adventurous people i know went to places like america or alaska on their own!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    By the way i wouldnt say the people who go there are stupid or c*nts its just for me anyway a bit of a boring choice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    strobe wrote: »
    I'm with you OP, why anyone would want to go to Australia is beyond me. From what I can see all the country has to offer is great weather, stunning beaches, unique and diverse wildlife, breath taking natural scenery that varies from red stone deserts to lush tropical rainforests, loads of jobs that pay well, nice beer, beautiful women with cracking beach bodies left right and fukking centre, and one of most widely envied and copied tourist infrastructures in the entire world..........it's a total mystery alright....

    that is true but theres a thousand and one countries with better of all the above and people fail to see it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Cullen82 wrote: »
    This!! Haha I'm surprised you have'nt been completely lashed out of it for your thread OP although you do have some valid points in there.


    Hope this is'nt off topic but what makes me cringe everytime is when I hear someone I know talking about how they've "travelled" knowing they've just gone on the piss for 6 months somewhere swarmed with tourists and actually seen or experienced f%^k all.

    In saying that I'd normally like to keep that opinion to myself as I find with traveller/backpackers there's too much snobbery competition attached to who's gone where and who's done what!

    your my hero of the day, traveling in my book is going somewhere and experiencing the culture, i know someone who went to perth in oz stayed the exact same place for four years and basically was a holiday alcoholic! travelin me hole!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭Adamisconfused


    Canada is the place to be. It's amazing to see a country that is run properly when you stop and look around at the mess we've made. Plus, their summers can be damn hot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Great thread, would read again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Lu Tze wrote: »
    Dublin forum
    >

    Australia and New Zealand Forum
    >

    No thanks

    It's nice to get out of the goldfish bowl for a while and see a few new places, meet people and generally have a great time.

    Best decision I ever made.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭Ozil


    snyper wrote: »
    Whats see you N T?

    See you NT, hello Windows 7 !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭Diddler82


    I came over because I wanted to try something new away from Ireland.

    Why knock people who are bold enough to take the jump and move abroad away from their friends and family regardless of where it is?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    No thanks

    It's nice to get out of the goldfish bowl for a while and see a few new places, meet people and generally have a great time.

    Best decision I ever made.

    Looks at mod list, yes, that would be Donegal.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,633 ✭✭✭maninasia


    What's travelling, it's only surface stuff anyway. Learning a foreign language, living and working with the locals ove a period of years..that's the real deal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    K-9 wrote: »
    Looks at mod list, yes, that would be Donegal.

    I've zero connection with Donegal (apart from going to the Gaeltacht there), merely helping out the forum mods in a busy time :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,258 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    I think the OP is grumpy because he can't afford to travel.
    Sitting back home in the mixed Irish weather wondering what the far side of the world is like.
    Checking out different cities along the day, exploring OZ, meeting new people. Taking weekend trips to Tasmania or NZ.
    Great beaches and unique wildlife. Vast expanse to explore.

    But if you're one the many Irish that go and stay in Bondi Junction, then you might as well stay at home.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭ricman


    I presume they go there theres lots of jobs ,its a democratic country ,the weather is good,they speak english.
    it has a good school system ,they actually build proper schools there rather than rent out
    portacabins for 20 years.And the banks did not try and destroy the economy.And they have a good health system.
    i can think of worst places to live.And they are not taking on 60billion in debt to save stupid bankers.Maybe its better than going to an arabic country where you can get arrested for kissing a female friend in public.
    IF A PERSON goes to another country ,theres a reason ,they need to work,even people with degrees are finding it hard to get jobs here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭bigbadbear


    I reckon the Irish stick to themselves because the alternative is talking to the Aussies. I've had more craic during a minutes silence than I have with some Australian people I've met. I would say Australia is just like Ireland just more beaches and hot weather. I definitely want to see it at some stage but I reckon I'd be popping cyanide tablets if I had to stay there for too long.

    I'd love to meet Alf though......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭brendansmith


    OP is right.

    Everyone who travels to Australia is a c unt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    bigbadbear wrote: »
    I reckon the Irish stick to themselves because the alternative is talking to the Aussies. I've had more craic during a minutes silence than I have with some Australian people I've met. I would say Australia is just like Ireland just more beaches and hot weather. I definitely want to see it at some stage but I reckon I'd be popping cyanide tablets if I had to stay there for too long.

    I'd love to meet Alf though......

    A lot of assumptions there.

    How many Australians do you know to have formed that opinion? Seeing as you've never been here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    Now I might be completely off the mark here but over the last while I've noticed a trend. I don't mean to be not very politically correct but I think that your average Irishman or girl who decides to go to Australia or god forbid "Oz" seems to be a bit of a SEE YOU N T. I don't understand why these people go to Australia. I've never been there. Nor do I want to go there. But I just don't understand for the life of me why Irish people want to go there.

    My brother went there for a year but has now a family and good job over there. I wouldn't call him a cúnt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    maninasia wrote: »
    What's travelling, it's only surface stuff anyway. Learning a foreign language, living and working with the locals ove a period of years..that's the real deal.

    Souhlasím s ním.


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