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Switzerland decides not to extradite the paedophile Roman Polanski to U.S.

  • 12-07-2010 07:54PM
    #1
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭


    This paedophile drugs and rapes a 13 yr old and the French Foreign Affairs and Culture Ministers celebrate his continued evasion of justice...

    Am I the only one thinking wtf?


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  • #2
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    It's bit odd, all right.
    The Swiss government declared Polanski a free man on Monday after rejecting the US extradition request.
    The Swiss said US authorities failed to provide confidential testimony about Polanski's original sentencing procedure.
    The Justice Ministry also said that national interests were taken into consideration in the decision.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment_and_arts/10601930.stm


  • #3
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Frankly its a disgrace.


  • #4
    ballsymchugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,943 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    Biggins wrote: »
    Frankly its a disgrace.

    what was also a disgrace was the number of actors that came out in support of him, including pierce brosnan, who's defense was that he hadn't murdered anyone.


  • #5
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    ballsymchugh wrote: »
    what was also a disgrace was the number of actors that came out in support of him, including pierce brosnan, who's defense was that he hadn't murdered anyone.
    Agreed.
    How is Mother Earths name can anyone support a person that anal raped a 13 year old! Thats just beyond mental for me!


  • #6
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Holywood will forgive and forget all about this paedo, because he's going to make them money.


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  • #7
    baldbear
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,665 ✭✭✭baldbear


    What actors spoke up for him? He's a child rapist like Gary Glitter and should be locked up the dirty fecker.


  • #8
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    ballsymchugh wrote: »
    what was also a disgrace was the number of actors that came out in support of him, including pierce brosnan, who's defense was that he hadn't murdered anyone.

    I get the feeling he wouldn't have been so supportive if ole Roman had drugged, raped and sodomised his daughter ...:rolleyes:


  • #9
    Zombienosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    I think it all went to ****, when she forgave him publically and dropped all charges.


  • #10
    kraggy
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    Not sure of the facts, but a friend of mine told me that the girl in question doesn't remember anything bad happen her. I know, I know, you're thinking "of course not, she was drugged" but what I mean is, that she genuinely doesn't think anything bad happened her and is a perfectly happy person getting on with here life, in a marriage etc.

    Edit: My friend is talking ****e obviously: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Polanski#Sexual_assault_case


  • #11
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Biggins wrote: »
    Agreed.
    How is Mother Earths name can anyone support a person that anal raped a 13 year old! Thats just beyond mental for me!
    Seems the anal raped 13 year old doesn't mind supporting him:
    Wikipedia wrote:
    In 1997, Geimer publicly forgave Polanski and filed a formal request with the Los Angeles Police Department to drop charges against him. In 2003 she wrote an Op Ed piece in the Los Angeles Times advocating for him to be allowed to return to the US to accept an Academy Award.
    There's more to this case then meets the eye.


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  • #12
    ballsymchugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,943 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    baldbear wrote: »
    What actors spoke up for him? He's a child rapist like Gary Glitter and should be locked up the dirty fecker.

    there was also the whoopi goldberg defense...

    'well, it wasn't rape rape..'


  • #13
    [Deleted User]
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    AlcoholicA wrote: »
    I think it all went to ****, when she forgave him publically and dropped all charges.

    The criminal charges arent hers to drop. The US was seeking extradition so that he could serve the time in jail.


  • #14
    ballsymchugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,943 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Seems the anal raped 13 year old doesn't mind supporting him:

    There's more to this case then meets the eye.

    which is why there's statutory rape, where the case doesn't depend on the opinion of the victim.


  • #15
    Biggins
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    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    ...There's more to this case then meets the eye.
    Yes, I'm very suspicious of that. I wonder did money cross hands?

    Regardless, despite what might happen later, earlier the man took serious advantage of a very young teen and abused, drugged and anal raped her.

    There is NO excuse for that - and no support up to any level or famous star, clears him of his disgusting actions.


  • #16
    reprazant
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭reprazant


    kraggy wrote: »
    Not sure of the facts, but a friend of mine told me that the girl in question doesn't remember anything bad happen her. I know, I know, you're thinking "of course not, she was drugged" but what I mean is, that she genuinely doesn't think anything bad happened her and is a perfectly happy person getting on with here life, in a marriage etc.

    She remembers
    On 11 March 1977, Polanski was arrested for the sexual assault of a thirteen-year-old, Samantha Geimer, that occurred the day before at the Hollywood home of actor Jack Nicholson.[46][56] The girl testified that Polanski gave her both champagne and Quaalude, a sedative drug, and despite repeated protests and being asked to stop, he performed oral sex, intercourse and sodomy upon her.[57][58][59][60] A grand jury charged him with rape by use of drugs, perversion, sodomy, lewd and lascivious act upon a child under fourteen, and furnishing a controlled substance to a minor.[61] At his arraignment Polanski pleaded not guilty to all charges.[62]

    ....


    Geimer sued Polanski in 1988, alleging sexual assault, intentional infliction of emotional distress and seduction. In 1993 Polanski agreed to settle with Geimer, however in August 1996 Polanski still owed her $604,416. Geimer and her lawyers would later confirm the settlement was completed.[71][72] In 1997, Geimer publicly forgave Polanski and filed a formal request with the Los Angeles Police Department to drop charges against him. In 2003 she wrote an Op Ed piece in the Los Angeles Times advocating for him to be allowed to return to the US to accept an Academy Award.[73]


  • #17
    Iwasfrozen
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    ballsymchugh wrote: »
    which is why there's statutory rape, where the case doesn't depend on the opinion of the victim.
    Which is why I say there is more to this them meets the eye. Switzerland obviously decided not to extradite him for a reason. Although what that reason is I have no idea.


  • #18
    Biggins
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    The medical evidence alone helped to show what had happened to her if my memory serves me right.


  • #19
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,107 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Which is why I say there is more to this them meets the eye. Switzerland obviously decided not to extradite him for a reason. Although what that reason is I have no idea.

    They freed him because the U.S. did not release confidential documents concerning the case, specifically details surrounding the plea bargain that
    the U.S. and Poalanski had. Either way, this man is a pervert and a fugitive, nothing more, and he will be until he is either caught or dies.

    BTW, I think the U.S were damn right not to release the documents. Far
    too many countries and people have been involved in this.


  • #20
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    walshb wrote: »
    They freed him because the U.S. did not release confidential documents concerning the case, specifically details surrounding the plea bargain that the U.S. and Poalanski had. Either way, this man is a pervert and a fugitive, nothing more, and he will be until he is either caught or dies.

    an excuse nothing more

    walshb wrote: »
    BTW, I think the U.S were damn right not to release the documents. Far too many countries and people have been involved in this.

    How many countries exactly should we be limited to to hunting down child raping paedophiles?


    Not sure whether a pay off should really matter nor the length of time. Today an 82 year old was extradited to Ireland for sexually abusing a 15year old 42 years ago.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0712/page1370674.html

    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Which is why I say there is more to this them meets the eye. Switzerland obviously decided not to extradite him for a reason. Although what that reason is I have no idea.

    I think given the french support for the same paedophile from paedophile french ministers may have had some effect...

    Carla Bruni-Sarkozy saves sex tourist minister Frédéric Mitterrand
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6869470.ece
    The reluctance of Nicolas Sarkozy, the French president, to sack a gay minister with a past as a “sex tourist” in Thailand will certainly please Carla Bruni-Sarkozy, his wife.

    She had suggested appointing Frédéric Mitterrand, a friend, as culture minister and the government’s support for him, despite his confession to having paid boys for sex, is partly a sign of Sarkozy’s eagerness not to offend his first lady.

    Sarko helped Polanski get bail
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/Sarko-helped-Polanski-get-bail/articleshow/5277209.cms
    French president Nicolas Sarkozy helped Roman Polanski get bail after the filmmaker spent two months in a Swiss prison on a child sex case, it has emerged.

    Paedophiles move on into France...


  • #21
    The Floyd p
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    Absolutely ridiculous. Should be jailed.


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  • #22
    Nodin
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    For those that want to judge for themselves, this is the testimony from the Grand Jury.

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/polanskicover1.html

    I'm not sure if you have to register to read that, but its a good site and worth the trouble.


  • #23
    endakenny
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    sligopark wrote: »
    Paedophiles move on into France...
    France has a lax attitude towards sexual morality. It is infamous for producing sexually explicit movies and allows abortion.


  • #24
    sligopark
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭sligopark


    endakenny wrote: »
    France has a lax attitude towards sexual morality. It is infamous for producing sexually explicit movies and allows abortion.

    and whose ministers travel abroad to pay 15 year old same sex males for sex....

    lovely... :o


  • #25
    [Deleted User]
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    Having read Anthony Keidis' and Danny Sugarman's biographies recently which deal with LA at the time, qualludes were everywhere and 13 years old was prime age for anything.
    It's shocking to read now but it is what was done at the time.. Sugarman's book is especially honest in this regard. Him being 21 or so getting a blowjob of a 13 year old who snuck into his room in mental hospital.. A 13yr old in the back of a car with a band about to get gangbanged. Both authors going out with and doing heroin with 15 year olds.

    I'm not excusing the behaviour but from what I've read, it was just normal. These girls were as much a part of the scene as the stars were and were as big a junkies.


  • #26
    RolandIRL
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    doesn't matter if it was common. there's no excuse for it, and anyone who molests should be locked away.


  • #27
    [Deleted User]
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    Morals are decided by the world you live in and these guys lived in a sordid degenerate world of instant gratification through drugs and sex.


  • #28
    wes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Its down right shameful that this man is walking free, and what was even worse, were all the people who defended t the guy. FFS, its ridiculous that being rich and good director will allow you get away with this crap.


  • #29
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    walshb wrote: »
    BTW, I think the U.S were damn right not to release the documents.

    Even if it meant the fu*ker couldnt legally be extradited ?


  • #30
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,182 ✭✭✭dvpower


    kraggy wrote: »
    Not sure of the facts, but a friend of mine told me that the girl in question doesn't remember anything bad happen her.

    He pleaded guilty. His guilt or innocence is not in question.


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  • #31
    AgileMyth
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    whiteman19 wrote: »
    doesn't matter if it was common. there's no excuse for it, and anyone who molests should be locked away.
    Inexcusable is easy to say when we have no experience of the world they were living in, its hard to get any sense of perspective really. If the offence indeed occured as a result of the world they were living in then there is no real danger of him reoffending. The girl has forgiven him. To lock him up seems an unneccessary expense to me.


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