Pamela Izevbekhai is still in Ireland! Why?

sligopark · 11-07-2010 06:37PM

so are you telling me that the scammers trying out for refugee status aren't better kept that many of those from your estate?

Its hard to belive you could truthfully state anything other than this.

I don't live in Cranmore but know a few that did and now work in 'Global Hse' or whatever its called and they are appalled.

You don't have to use Cranmore as a measuring stick either Truly try the old Bundoran road or another place.

Why should scammers take precident over citizens when they can be simply not be accepted and sent back?

K-9 · 11-07-2010 06:45PM

mikom wrote: »

Brilliant :pac:
You're gonna fit in well around here sligopark.

I think I'll just +1 that as my response. Very good.

Them poor innocent Irish girls being taken advantage of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJkHykGRXrw

biko · 11-07-2010 06:50PM

sligopark wrote: »

WHAT? There are 6500 potential scamers in the country - 94% will be found out as scammers - what hysterical ****e - talk are you talking about exactly?

Please back this up with some official numbers.

Also how the asylum seekers on 19.60 euro/week can afford cars, are you sure you didn't see asylum seekers that have been granted right to stay and now has a job and can afford cars?

sligopark · 11-07-2010 06:59PM

biko wrote: »

Please back this up with some official numbers.

Also how the asylum seekers on 20 euro/week can afford cars, are you sure you didn't see asylum seekers that have been granted right to stay and now has a job and can afford cars?

No problem

http://www.orac.ie/pages/Stats/2009.htm

2009
http://www.orac.ie/pdf/PDFCustService/AnnualReports/Office%20of%20the%20Refugee%20Applications%20Commissioner%20-%20Annual%20Report%20-%202009.pdf

€20 a week all living expenses paid inc cultural haircuts, cultural foods, childcare etc etc - all those cars aren't the workers in Global Hse and thats according to people working in there...

biko · 11-07-2010 07:13PM

I just had a quick look now and couldn't find the sections where they were found out as scammers but maybe you are more read up on this and can quote the relevant text?

I realise I forgot to add link before
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0218/1224264715159.html

The report points out that the system of direct provision, where asylum seekers are dispersed around the country and housed in centres on a full-board basis, with €19.60 a week to meet all other needs, was intended as a short-term measure while their asylum claims were being processed.

The report also points out that when the €19.60 allowance was introduced 10 years ago it was 20 per cent of the supplementary welfare allowance. Unlike all other social welfare payments, it has not increased, and today is worth only 10 per cent of this allowance.

sligopark · 11-07-2010 07:24PM

biko wrote: »

I just had a quick look now and couldn't find the sections where they were found out as scammers but maybe you are more read up on this and can quote the relevant text?

I realise I forgot to add link before
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0218/1224264715159.html

Its a well regarded figure that 94-95% of them are found out not to be meeting anything of refugee status however on P.61 of the document P.63 of the .pdf it states that of the cases finalised 2009 2.5% of applicants were granted refugee status, on table 11 P.62 of the document P.64 of the .pdf, 3.0% granted.

Truley · 11-07-2010 08:35PM

sligopark wrote: »

so are you telling me that the scammers trying out for refugee status aren't better kept that many of those from your estate?

Yes, yes I am.

I don't live in Cranmore but know a few that did and now work in 'Global Hse' or whatever its called and they are appalled.

It's called 'Globe House' and it directly employs more than thirty staff as well as scores more local Sligo people indirectly. Places like Globe house would simply not be opened and operated if it was not of financial benefit to the powers that be. If your friends don't like it there they can always leave. Pleanty of other people willing to take their jobs.

You don't have to use Cranmore as a measuring stick either Truly try the old Bundoran road or another place.

Neither of those places are exactly on the brink of poverty. However if there are families in those places struggling financially then why do you think that is? Are their wages too low? Is social welfare too low? How are people in Cranmore or Old Bundoran road affected by refugees/asylum seekers?

sligopark wrote: »

€20 a week all living expenses paid inc cultural haircuts, cultural foods, childcare etc etc - all those cars aren't the workers in Global Hse and thats according to people working in there...

Including all that? Woah €20 can sure get you alot these days!

sligopark · 11-07-2010 08:51PM

Truley wrote: »

Places like Globe house would simply not be opened and operated if it was not of financial benefit to the powers that be.

Globe Hse is not a private enterprise the taxpayer pays. On top of all we also pay for all their hosuing, feeding, upkeep (inc cultural) along with the futile hearings and legal challenges

Truley wrote: »

Neither of those places are exactly on the brink of poverty.

Gaysus must you be living on the street for you to think they are worse off than the uninvited guests entertained in Globe Hse??

Truley wrote: »

However if there are families in those places struggling financially then why do you think that is? Are their wages too low? Is social welfare too low?

no jobs for many of them although in fairness many of them do not want to work. This however is no excuse for funding for civil services being paid for by the taxpayer being siphoned off to pay for the housing and process around removing scammers arriving into the country.

Truley wrote: »

How are people in Cranmore or Old Bundoran road affected by refugees/asylum seekers?

like us all - monies that would be used for civil services being siphoned off to pay for the housing and process around removing scammers arriving into the country of which 3% are granted refugee status.

How much do you think it has cost us whilst refugees cross right through the EU realising that 'we' are a soft touch?

sligopark · 11-07-2010 08:54PM

Pamela Izevbekhai is still in Ireland. Why?

Will she be charged with fraud and perjury?

Truley · 11-07-2010 09:29PM

sligopark wrote: »

Globe Hse is not a private enterprise the taxpayer pays. On top of all we also pay for all their hosuing, feeding, upkeep (inc cultural) along with the futile hearings and legal challenges

The State pays an allowance, food etc but it is small by any stretch. I know it sounds like alot of money but the advantages Globe House provides to the wider community far outweighs the costs. Many private enterprises in the area rely on Globe house for income. If it was completely shut down tomorrow you would know the difference.

Gaysus must you be living on the street for you to think they are worse off than the uninvited guests entertained in Globe Hse??

Well I speak for myself when I say I am better off economically and socially than the people in Globe house earning €20 a week, using communal toilets and denied many of the freedoms I have such as the right to work. I'm not saying asylum seekers have it rough, but I don't think there are many Sligo people worse off financially. Irish people have the freedom to work if they choose, receive larger social welfare payments, better quality social housing.

no jobs for many of them although in fairness many of them do not want to work. This however is no excuse for funding for civil services being paid for by the taxpayer being siphoned off to pay for the housing and process around removing scammers arriving into the country.

Funding is siphoned off on lots of services that don't directly benefit you. To think that the money would otherwise be handed out to random Sligo people is naive to say the least. You don't understand how social spending works.

K-9 · 11-07-2010 09:40PM

sligopark wrote: »

Globe Hse is not a private enterprise the taxpayer pays. On top of all we also pay for all their hosuing, feeding, upkeep (inc cultural) along with the futile hearings and legal challenges

Unfortunately the State doesn't allow them to work.

PS. Any savings would be used to pay of debt, not used towards the Public Service.

Civil Service is also different from the Public Service.

profitius · 17-07-2010 03:50PM

sligopark wrote: »

No problem

http://www.orac.ie/pages/Stats/2009.htm

2009
http://www.orac.ie/pdf/PDFCustService/AnnualReports/Office%20of%20the%20Refugee%20Applications%20Commissioner%20-%20Annual%20Report%20-%202009.pdf

€20 a week all living expenses paid inc cultural haircuts, cultural foods, childcare etc etc - all those cars aren't the workers in Global Hse and thats according to people working in there...

But we need them for the economy! :rolleyes: Anybody remember that? All the years being told we "need" them. It was just so that business people could make a quick buck from cheap labour and let the low earning tax payers pay for there schooling, housing, haircuts etc etc etc..

The wealthiest people sponsor do-gooders to keep telling us how we "needed" more immigrants. Now those big mouths have fallen silent.

barrackali · 18-02-2011 01:24PM

Any update on this matter? This case is getting more rediculous by the minute.

billymitchell · 18-02-2011 01:47PM

barrackali wrote: »

Any update on this matter? This case is getting more rediculous by the minute.

It is????

hightower1 · 18-02-2011 02:00PM

Honestly didnt know there was only a 3% refugee status rate... jaysus!

FFS you think with that kind of percentage common sense would just tell us to stop accepting dem fugies! Ok we may deny 3% of them who havea right but we also deny 97% who dont and in the process waste money and time better spent..... I'm ok with denying 100% in order to loose that existing ratio and wouldnt loose a wink of sleep over it.

If it was like 30 /70 ratio then I'd be ok with giving that 30% a chance for he sake of the 70% time wasters but its not even close to that.

Close the doors,..... ship 'em off.... sorry about ya.

thebigbiffo · 18-02-2011 02:11PM

i think it's a good call resurrecting this thread: seriously, does anyone know if this woman's still in the country? if she is, it's a real disgrace.

squod · 18-02-2011 02:37PM

Must have put solvite on her shoes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy5k5cghS3A

Badgermonkey · 18-02-2011 02:39PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw5pmDgWMaU

Cathaoirleach · 18-02-2011 02:54PM

She is still here. Her appeal is ongoing.

edit:

http://www.sligotoday.ie/details.php?id=13121&PHPSESSID=ab88545b303bd22e88cf89c3a887766d

landsleaving · 18-02-2011 02:57PM

I hope she gets to stay here, and gets a free house and car. If my tax money is going on anything I really want it to be on trolling xenophobic bigots who think refugees are 'chancers' and that the asylum seeker system is a waste of their money.

Now, let the backlash against me begin. Charge up your rage, get your angry face on and, I dunno, stick on a viking helmet! FUN!

mikom · 18-02-2011 03:03PM

landsleaving wrote: »

stick on a viking helmet!

Racist... that's the equivalent of putting a bone through your nose.

biko · 18-02-2011 03:05PM

From link above

One of Ireland's most highlighted case has been the legal battle fought by Pamela Izevbekhai, the Sligo-based asylum seeker, against her and her two daughter's deportation to her native Nigeria. The final mention in the courts regarding her continued appeal is expected within weeks.

jugger0 · 18-02-2011 03:06PM

landsleaving wrote: »

I hope she gets to stay here, and gets a free house and car. If my tax money is going on anything I really want it to be on trolling xenophobic bigots who think refugees are 'chancers' and that the asylum seeker system is a waste of their money.

Now, let the backlash against me begin. Charge up your rage, get your angry face on and, I dunno, stick on a viking helmet! FUN!

Ya great idea, lets give all our money to people who have no right to be here in the first place, to hell with our own people who need assistance... **** em. The asyslum seeker system is a waste of money, look at france and england and what their large population of asylum seekers have contributed to their country.

profitius · 18-02-2011 06:03PM

landsleaving wrote: »

I hope she gets to stay here, and gets a free house and car. If my tax money is going on anything I really want it to be on trolling xenophobic bigots who think refugees are 'chancers' and that the asylum seeker system is a waste of their money.

Now, let the backlash against me begin. Charge up your rage, get your angry face on and, I dunno, stick on a viking helmet! FUN!

Why don't you let her stay in your house and pay for everything she needs so. You've no problem with it..

Svetti Arss · 18-02-2011 06:30PM

Because Ireland is obscenely politically correct. Simple as that.

saywhatyousee · 18-02-2011 06:47PM

this woman is a chancer plain and simple,people are only trying to defend her because she is black.if it was an irish person who who was caught defrauding the state like she did you would be calling for their head.double standarts much!!!

Nodin · 18-02-2011 06:50PM

saywhatyousee wrote: »

this woman is a chancer plain and simple,people are only trying to defend her because she is black.if it was an irish person who who was caught defrauding the state like she did you would be calling for their head.double standarts much!!!

People were defending her -> she was caught out -> people stopped defending her. In that order.

Nodin · 18-02-2011 06:51PM

Svetti Arss wrote: »

Because Ireland is obscenely politically correct. Simple as that.

Why do we have such a high refusal rate in comparison to the rest of Europe then...?

barrackali · 18-02-2011 07:12PM

biko wrote: »

From link above

Now I thought she had lost every single court case domestically, all the way to a defeat in the Supreme Court last July.....what is this mention all about?

I was aware of a possible ECHR appeal, I'm getting really pissed off with this dam chancer and the legal system that allows this deception.

Storminateacup · 18-02-2011 07:59PM

Nodin wrote: »

Why do we have such a high refusal rate in comparison to the rest of Europe then...?

I would assume its because asylum seekers are supposed to seek asylum in the first country they land in.
Ireland has one of the most generous social welfare systems in the world, is it a coincidence that theres a lot more applications being made since the social welfare was raised? It didnt offer much assistance in the 90's.. and there were very few applications.

It baffles me how people can get off a plane in england, after being supposedly traumatised, hop on to another one, and travel an hour to another country with more than double the social welfare.

they disgust me. not only should they be deported, but they deserve to be stoned for being so dishonest.

Pamela Izevbekhai is still in Ireland! Why?

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