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Kelly Brook snapped with 16-year old Beach Hunk

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    Its not really hypocrisy to be honest-I presume if the role was reversed the story would be very similar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 67 ✭✭Falcon Crest


    He's the son of her friend's. Nothing going on there except the papers as usual printing bull.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,392 ✭✭✭✭r3nu4l


    Speedboatchase I get where you were coming from here. This was to be a serious thread. As such, I'm deleting all posts so far and we'll start again.

    AH style posts deleted.

    My own view is that some papers would react with outrage and anger at a 30 year old man being with a 16 year old girl but let's face it, the legal age of conent in England is 16 so many papers wouldn't bat an eyelid unless the guy had just left his wife or he was a politician or something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    cris evens springs to mind him and billie pipper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    I think Kelly Brook is one of those girls who simply cannot be alone- you know the analogy of never letting go of one branch until you have hold of another- anytime she breaks up with a guy she seems ot immediately be woth another.

    She's hot, no doubt about that, but something strange about how quickly she moves on.

    As far the original point- I think its weird for a 30 y/o to date a 16 y/o regardless of the genders.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭hightower1


    I ganced past this story on theweb today, wouldnt read this type of trash tbh.
    Thats sick, he's 16! Rotten b**ch.

    Surely we all here know a relative thats 30? Now what if she came home with a sixteen year old??? Personally I'd laugh at her.
    Not to mention if it was someone like a male 30 year old celeb seeing a sixteen year old girl!

    Bottom line is he is a boy ffs. He's the same age as that Bieber kid!!!!

    220px-Justin_Bieber.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    This story is blown way out of proportion. There is not any evidence that there is anything going on between the two. Is it really getting to a stage where an adult can not be present in the company of a young person without them needing to ride each other incessantly. This is juts idle speculation and it says more aout the jornalistic qualities of the writer than impune the character of Kelly Brook.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,876 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    Mrmoe wrote: »
    This story is blown way out of proportion. There is not any evidence that there is anything going on between the two. Is it really getting to a stage where an adult can not be present in the company of a young person without them needing to ride each other incessantly. This is juts idle speculation and it says more aout the jornalistic qualities of the writer than impune the character of Kelly Brook.

    The issue I have (I'm the OP by the way) is not that things are blown out of proportion, or if anything actually happened between them - but the way the story has been presented, as a "16 year old hunk" and a 30 year old woman possibly getting up to something - as if they're nothing strange or predatory about that. As I've said, the report are trying to nudge in inklings of a romance, and if that was their intention, you can bet the coverage and headlines would be completely different had the genders been reversed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    The issue I have (I'm the OP by the way) is not that things are blown out of proportion, or if anything actually happened between them - but the way the story has been presented, as a "16 year old hunk" and a 30 year old woman possibly getting up to something - as if they're nothing strange or predatory about that. As I've said, the report are trying to nudge in inklings of a romance, and if that was their intention, you can bet the coverage and headlines would be completely different had the genders been reversed.

    I can see what you are saying alright, I missed this point in your op. If it was an older man and a female teenager then it would be probably be along the lines of
    " Seedy old man stalks sweet innocent young girl "

    I think as long as it is restricted to the tabloid media, people should know to expect this. That doesn't make it right but at least it can be screened out. I think that type of reporting denigrates women as well as men.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    hightower1 wrote: »
    I ganced past this story on theweb today, wouldnt read this type of trash tbh.
    Thats sick, he's 16! Rotten b**ch.
    Yes you would and clearly have done right now:confused:

    How is she a rotten bitch?
    What proves she is dating him and 16 is legal over there anyway.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    OK folks, this is a serious thread

    i've deleted some more posts


    leave the AH style responses to AH please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,158 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    We know if the genders were the other way around, then the headlines would be different saying the man is a dirty old man.

    But this attitude will not change as long as peoples attitudes dont change about older woman with younger guys.

    We already have had two mods give warnings because of those attiudes on posts here.

    ******



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    We know if the genders were the other way around, then the headlines would be different saying the man is a dirty old man.

    But this attitude will not change as long as peoples attitudes dont change about older woman with younger guys.

    We already have had two mods give warnings because of those attiudes on posts here.
    I don't really see what harm is being done to him.

    Even if we do assume that they are dating I don't really care what the big deal is. He's 16 and if you had to guess what age he was from looking at the pics you would probably say 20's.

    I really can't imagine a scenario where when he gets older he is going to look back and feel he was taken advantage of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭Dr Galen


    forget about the whole gender bias thing here for a second, and let me ask this.

    Do people think that there is something wrong with this situation IF the tabloid crapola turns out to be true?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,068 ✭✭✭Bodhisopha


    Reminds me of the the time the Star in England was running a story calling for Brass Eye to be axed after the spoof peadophile show while at the same time running the headline "She's a big girl now" in relation to then 15 year olds Charlotte Chruch's expanding titties, in the exact same newspaper.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Its legal in the UK for people over 16 to have sex. So there is nothing illegal there.Even reversing genders she is not a teacher or anything else.

    For her to have a relationship with the son of a man that she has had a relationship with be very seedy. So that would be the "ethical part" if she has featured in their lives in an "eat up your greens way" /relationship with "Dad" way.

    So for her to bed and bonk junior would be tacky in a tabloid problem page "I am sleeping with my EX-BOYFRIENDS SON" way.

    If that wasn't the case well who really cares. Its like me teasing my 19 y/o son about going to Tamangoes on Mickey Money night.

    30 with 16 (17 in Ireland)is a bit opposite end of the scales).

    There is a bit of a double standard about sex and younger people starting off in life but if a young woman groupie blags her way into a back stage party with her favorite rock band and bags the lead singer - she might do it for lots of reasons.( No outrage there BTW Kylie never returned my calls :)).

    So excluding any previous relationship with Dad. Nothing too wrong there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Dr Galen wrote: »
    Do people think that there is something wrong with this situation IF the tabloid crapola turns out to be true?

    I do. 30 and 16 may be legal but it's just not right IMO. Having said that, at 16 there is no question that I would have hit that given the opportunity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 566 ✭✭✭AARRRRGH


    Khannie wrote: »
    I do. 30 and 16 may be legal but it's just not right IMO. Having said that, at 16 there is no question that I would have hit that given the opportunity.

    When I was 16 I would have gladly consented to sex with any woman who was interested, never mind Kelly Brook.
    That boy is a hero if he is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,815 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    AARRRRGH wrote: »
    When I was 16 I would have gladly consented to sex with any woman who was interested, never mind Kelly Brook.
    That boy is a hero if he is.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 andrewbradley


    There is no way a 30 and a 16 year old having sex is ever right. Fair enough it's kelly brook i'd say there is no truth in the story the media blow everything out of proportion.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭Smyth


    Fml


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    when i was 30 -16 year old girls were out of the question.When I was 22 16 year old girls were out of the question.

    If he was 18 and she 32 -different ball game.

    Am I operating my own standard here or should I be saying none of my business if the person is old enough legally to have sex.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    CDfm wrote: »
    when i was 30 -16 year old girls were out of the question.When I was 22 16 year old girls were out of the question.

    If he was 18 and she 32 -different ball game.

    Am I operating my own standard here or should I be saying none of my business if the person is old enough legally to have sex.
    But that's a 16 year old girl not a 16 year old boy. People are saying it's wrong simply because they would find it wrong for a old man to date a 16 year old girl.

    I genuinely don't see what negative impact she could have on the guy that would be caused by her being 30. However it would be different if it was a man because I would view him as a predator sort of situation.

    Yes I agree this is a double standard but I don't care.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    SugarHigh wrote: »
    But that's a 16 year old girl not a 16 year old boy. People are saying it's wrong simply because they would find it wrong for a old man to date a 16 year old girl.

    Ok when I was thirty I lived in the UK and the sixteen year olds I would have known were baby sitters to my kids.

    Now this veers into the territory of statutory rape ethics and whether a child can give consent or whether date rape or drunk girl sex is wrong. Those areas all are where force is absent and the person might look the age or force is not used. So what are your views on them.
    I genuinely don't see what negative impact she could have on the guy that would be caused by her being 30. However it would be different if it was a man because I would view him as a predator sort of situation.

    Yes I agree this is a double standard but I don't care.

    Is it different if the girl is sexually experianced and initiates the sex.
    Consensual sex teenager to teenager is different. Thats one issue.Statutory rape is another.The double standard is that you would class the situation with a female predator and male victim as being a victimless crime -is that what you are saying here ?

    Having sex with your stepmother or mother in law is very much Jeremy Kyle or Jerry Springer territory.This is on the same track with Dads former love interest and sloppy seconds.

    Should fraustrated mothers of teenage sons have sex with their sons schoolfriends.? What about female teachers, scholl nurses,doctors etc. Its in that league.Here its one of his Dads ex partners.

    So its not Kelly Brook per se -its a female family friend and a teenage boy and remove the celebrity and hotness and thats what you've got.

    I wonder what his mother and father think of all this btw.

    It is a double standard and the laws are there to protect the vulnerable, not all people are vulnerable or exploitable, and you get some very streetwise 16 year old girls and some very sensitive 16 year old boys.

    And its societies job to protect them.

    I would like to see if any teachers, medics, and sports enthusiasts out there have a view.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    Statutory rape is another.The double standard is that you would class the situation with a female predator and male victim as being a victimless crime -is that what you are saying here ?
    Yea, I genuinely view as a completely different situation than if a man did it because I view teenage girls as being more vulnerable. I genuinely can't see what damage could be done by what she is doing. The fact he's a friends kid makes it unusual but not wrong.

    I agree it's societies job to protect the vulnerable but I just don't see how he is vulnerable. At what stage will he look back on this and regret it, because I don't ever see that happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,137 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    SugarHigh wrote: »
    I agree it's societies job to protect the vulnerable but I just don't see how he is vulnerable. At what stage will he look back on this and regret it, because I don't ever see that happening.
    And what if she was a fat hag who was using her experience to take advantage of him? What if a 16 year-old girl wanted to sleep with the male equivalent of Kelly Brook, would she ever look back later and regret it?

    Personally, I think 16 is too young for a total age-of-consent lifting. There should be a graduated scale ending at 18, e.g. two 14-year-olds having sex isn't an offence, but a 17-year-old and a 14-year-old is. After 18, it should, for want of a better phrase, be a free-for-all. Anything between 2 consenting adults is fair game

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    SugarHigh wrote: »
    Yea, I genuinely view as a completely different situation than if a man did it because I view teenage girls as being more vulnerable. I genuinely can't see what damage could be done by what she is doing. The fact he's a friends kid makes it unusual but not wrong.

    I agree it's societies job to protect the vulnerable but I just don't see how he is vulnerable. At what stage will he look back on this and regret it, because I don't ever see that happening.

    Ok reverse the genders and -what would you think.And why is it different??

    I am not trying to catch you out here ,BTW, it is a genuine connundrum of our time concerning statutory rape and older younger sex.

    Values also change, but the OP was asking why is it different gender wise as I cant see the difference myself. The value on chastity and availability of contraception means you would hardly think its changed but it has.

    I have a teenage daughter 17 btw -would I think it wrong if she debagged what she calls the cute 14 year old in second year. Probably.Anyway, she is old enough to work that out for herself. Would I be concerned if she was out with a 30 y/o. Yes. the reason being that the decisions would be out of her hands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭RedRebel


    Stop being a pleb and read a real newspaper :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,914 ✭✭✭✭tbh


    RedRebel wrote: »
    Stop being a pleb and read a real newspaper :mad:

    Cop on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭RedRebel


    To be fair, The Sun is hardly what I'd call 'Gentlemen's Club' worthy. It's a rag. Its stories are rubbish, editorial and journalistic quality is non-existent and the language they use makes my ears cry.


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