Chinese Business man promises 8000 jobs for athlone

Abrasax · 30-06-2010 08:46PM

And would the 8000 Chinese be working under Irish work laws or would special provisions be made for them to be able to work longer hours, less wages etc.?

30-06-2010 08:46PM

Morlar wrote: »

Why do they need to ship 2000 chineese workers here to build it ? We have countless architects and assorted construction workers with no work right here.

because of all the gendercide they need to offload a few million men before the S*it hits the fan

(one child policy)

Victor · 30-06-2010 09:23PM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/jun/25/china-investment-ireland-eurozone

It is understood that bulldozing the land would result in the construction of a school, railway station and hundreds of factory units and apartments.

/throws a paddy!

Mike 1972 · 30-06-2010 09:44PM

Deleted User wrote: »

because of all the gendercide

That link requires subscription but given the source (the economist) I can probably sum it up.

1) One child policy coupled with low value placed on girls by culture/society = lots of Girls/Female foetuses being aborted or in some cases killed shortly after birth
2) Therefore long term gender imbalance in Chinese population = Shortage of poontang for the blokes = bit of a problem (albeit with the upside of continuing the trend towards reducing/reversing population growth)
3) But long term effect of supply/demand balance is that females become more valued in society (plus greater social tolerance of homosexuality)
4) Yet another state-imposed problem resolved by the wonders of market economics (Gawd bless it)
5) Everyone (eventually) lives happy ever after.

More or less the same as every story published by the Economist

Rented Mule · 30-06-2010 09:48PM

Morlar wrote: »

Why do they need to ship 2000 chineese workers here to build it ? We have countless architects and assorted construction workers with no work right here.

Thanks to FF you have to take what you can get these days.

Hogzy · 01-07-2010 12:24PM

No doubt Fianna Fail will f*ck this up completely.

Banned Account · 01-07-2010 12:26PM

Hogzy wrote: »

No doubt Fianna Fail will f*ck this up completely.

I agree - with 8,000 chinese on the way, now is the worst possible time to introduce the dog breeding bill.

Or is that the vietnamese

Truley · 01-07-2010 12:32PM

My chinese is a little rusty but here goes

" 为什么做您喜欢骑马河马 "

("Why do you like riding hippos?") :pac:

01-07-2010 12:35PM

All because the paddy overpaid for land to the east of Athlone.

In other words, some "developers" have ended up stuck with a load of land that's only worth a fraction what they originally paid for it and are desperate to offload it to anyone stupid enough to buy it.

It's not going to happen, the Chinese are buying up oilfields, mineral mines etc worldwide, what has the Irish midlands got... bogs!

edit: forgot to add Ming the merciless is from Roscommon.

Sykk · 01-07-2010 12:39PM

Abrasax wrote: »

And would the 8000 Chinese be working under Irish work laws or would special provisions be made for them to be able to work longer hours, less wages etc.?

It's 2000 Chinese and 8000 Irish. And no there is absolutely no way that is going to happen. Human right's and all that.

General Zod · 01-07-2010 12:44PM

thebullkf wrote: »

that statement was just wong.

If they are employed to work here they will have to get Irish minimum wage.

ejmaztec · 01-07-2010 12:49PM

Hogzy wrote: »

No doubt Fianna Fail will f*ck this up completely.

...assisted by Gormley the tool, like he's doing in this case:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0701/breaking28.html

Minister rejects Poolbeg jobs claim

CHARLIE TAYLOR
Minister for the Environment John Gormley said today he would not be pressured into issuing a foreshore licence for the operation of the Poolbeg incinerator in Ringsend.
The Minister’s comments come after reports that the US ambassador to Ireland Dan Rooney had requested a meeting with him over the delay in granting a licence for the controversial project.
Dublin City Council first lodged an application for a licence almost two years ago and until it is issued, the US developer of the project, Covanta Energy, is unable to proceed.

conorhal · 01-07-2010 01:14PM

Morlar wrote: »

Why do they need to ship 2000 chineese workers here to build it ? We have countless architects and assorted construction workers with no work right here.

The answer is that they don't, they are doing this because they can and because we are too stupid to say no to their neo-colonial agenda.
China are the worst economic imperialists in the world right now and like all imperialists their philosophy is 'take everything and contribute nothing that you absolutely don't have to' .
The Chinese are LOATHE to expatriate a single cent that they don't have to spend outside their own economy, and 'fair trade' is an alien concept which is why they will soon have the largest economy in the world. We've already economically shot ourselves in the foot by handing China our manufacturing base, lock stock and barrel, should we hand them the jobs in this country too?

The Africans are really pissed off with the Chinese at the moment, they are buying up huge farms and mines across the continent to provide food security and raw materials to feed the Chinese boom but won't employ Africans, not even for the infrastructure projects that they have offered the African governments as sweeteners in these sort of deals. They will offer to build a road for example as sweetener to see a deal go through but they will import Chinese labor to build it.
Of course, being the short sighted economic gombeen men that we are, used to tipping out cap at imperialist nations with colonial ambitions, we'll be happy to accede to the deal because, 'ah sure der might be a couple of jobs innt', and so we will have gone from taking the queens shilling to taking Mao's yen.

Morlar · 01-07-2010 01:37PM

General Zod wrote: »

If they are employed to work here they will have to get Irish minimum wage.

Why should minimum wage jobs in Ireland be made available to chineese nationals resident in china but not open to Irish workers resident in Ireland (who are currently claiming welfare and desperately looking for work) ?

The arugment that the chineese nationals resident in china had exclusive skills that were not available in Ireland - I do not think that that could possibly apply to ALL of the 2000 construction jobs. This is at a time of the highest recorded unemployment in the state - a large part of that is construction workers - it is insanity to give the go ahead to a project that will discriminate AGAINST Irish construction workers. Our safety and quality standards in construction are amongst the highest in the world. If the jobs are budgeted at the minumum legal wage for construction then there is no acceptable reason why they should not be advertised and available to Irish people.

bijapos · 01-07-2010 01:47PM

Whats the Chinese for Hippo and Gowl ?

Athlones finest in action here.

El Siglo · 01-07-2010 02:08PM

Can't beat a bit of neo-colonialism. Same shit is happening all over Africa.

Morlar · 01-07-2010 02:26PM

Nevermind africa it's here we should be worried about. I call shenanigans on that original article anyway. The whole thing is too vague to mean anything much at this stage.

john-joe · 01-07-2010 02:52PM

I think is it a good idea ;

1) Providing Irish with Jobs

2) Bringing communities closer together

3) Making use of derelict grounds

all together it's a pretty nice 3in1

:rolleyes:

01-07-2010 07:05PM

john-joe wrote: »

I think is it a good idea ;

1) Providing Irish with Jobs

2) Bringing communities closer together

3) Making use of derelict grounds

all together it's a pretty nice 3in1

:rolleyes:

The :rolleyes: at the end sums it up quite well.

01-07-2010 07:10PM

El Siglo wrote: »

Can't beat a bit of neo-colonialism. Same shit is happening all over Africa.

Sure, isn't that how the British empire got India in the first place.

Good old East India Company

01-07-2010 08:35PM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

That link requires subscription but given the source (the economist) I can probably sum it up.

1) One child policy coupled with low value placed on girls by culture/society = lots of Girls/Female foetuses being aborted or in some cases killed shortly after birth
2) Therefore long term gender imbalance in Chinese population = Shortage of poontang for the blokes = bit of a problem (albeit with the upside of continuing the trend towards reducing/reversing population growth)
3) But long term effect of supply/demand balance is that females become more valued in society (plus greater social tolerance of homosexuality)
4) Yet another state-imposed problem resolved by the wonders of market economics (Gawd bless it)
5) Everyone (eventually) lives happy ever after.

More or less the same as every story published by the Economist

sexuality isnt like supply and demand, you`ll find straight and gay people will tell you they were born that way...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8451289.stm
24 million men who wont ever have a chance at finding someone as long as they are in China. 24 million straight guys arent goin to suddenly turn gay. Jaysus if we could turn gay by clickin our fingers imagine the prospects - partners who love watchin football and drinking beer down at the boozer with the lads. Be mental.

/ends tangent

akkadian · 11-09-2010 06:12AM

it's hardly anything too much to worry about:

Now here's a possible white elephant ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1x9qU-Sav8 ), or it could be a very interesting new urban area.

Pdfile · 11-09-2010 06:29AM

CreepingDeath wrote: »

That's a big takeaway

we could have a protential world record on our hands also...

2000 people sayin " welcome ****twok take order pweese "

moonpurple · 11-09-2010 08:18AM

in a tesco in west dublin recently
the free newspaper was in chinese

its coming folks get ready for the chinese planet

galwayrush · 11-09-2010 09:18AM

I always thought this announcement was for some FF hacks to recover the massive amount of money they invested in the site in Athlone.

[Jackass] · 11-09-2010 09:26AM

I for one welcome our new overlords.

Gone West · 11-09-2010 10:58AM

Morlar wrote: »

Why do they need to ship 2000 chineese workers here to build it ? We have countless architects and assorted construction workers with no work right here.

None of them will work for the same money.
This is the excat type of new business approach that is needed in Ireland, but don´t you just know that some Local government and interest groups will block it because it will negatively affect them in some small way. Nobody looks at the big picture.

Lanaier · 11-09-2010 02:31PM

Superbus wrote: »

Conquering Europe?

What's the Chinese equivalent of 'SHÍT'!?

"Ma de" "妈的"

Not literal equivalent for feces, which would be "bian", more just damn/sh!t/fuck rolled into one.
"Cao" "草" is also possible but closer to "fuck"

Morlar wrote: »

Why do they need to ship 2000 chineese workers here to build it ? We have countless architects and assorted construction workers with no work right here.

Probably cause they want it finished within the next decade.

The first thing Chinese builders do on a construction site is build the little brick huts they will be living in for the year or two it takes to finish the project.
Construction goes on 24 hours a day, 7 days a week from then on in most building cases.
Only stopping when it rains, which may pose an interesting problem in Athlone

Bob the Seducer wrote: »

Just in case, it's probably something like
他們偷走了我們的工作

* may not be accurate translation

or maybe 他们抢走了我们的工作.

11-09-2010 02:46PM

http://www.westmeathindependent.ie/news/roundup/articles/2010/08/25/3999595-plans-set-to-be-lodged-for-chinese-project-within-months/

FFS I think the Mayo Ski resort to host the 2026 winter Olympics has a better chance than this pipe dream! :eek:

Initial plans include a convention centre in the shape of a Chinese palace, two five-star hotels, apartments, a six-hole golf course, a railway station, two bus stations, a medical centre and a fire-fighting centre and a massive 180-metre-high tower.

At the core of the facility, though, is an exhibition area measuring 445,000 square metres, a commercial district measuring 264,000 square metres, a retail service area measuring 90,000 square metres and a residential area measuring 186,000 square metres.

The project incorporates four blocks, comprising an exhibition centre, a residential area, a retail service area and a commercial area with the residential area, retail service area and commercial area forming a triangle that encloses the exhibition area.

Agricola · 11-09-2010 02:48PM

[Jackass] wrote: »

I for one welcome our new overlords.

Wait a second, thats a fake Jackass.

He wouldnt come on here and make a clichéd internet joke. He'd talk about what good Buddhists the Chinese are!

Chinese Business man promises 8000 jobs for athlone

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