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Request bouncer ID number

  • 25-06-2010 10:22PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭rossom


    Was at a Dublin Nightclub last night which will remain nameless.

    My friend was asked to leave for being too drunk which he did without hassle. I go outside to see if he is ok and then ask the bouncer what time the night club closes at. He tells me the time and says why did I want to know it, to which I responded that I just wanted to reaffirm it for myself. He now tells me I can't get back in because I'm making up fake words that aren't in the English language. I could see the bouncer wasn't letting me back in so I go away for about 45 minutes and try again later.

    The second time he once again doesn't let me in and after a few minutes of querying why I couldn't get back in he proceeds to verbally abuse me. I then ask for his ID number (which is displayed on his jacket) which he point blank refuses to give me.

    Am I, by law, entitled to get this ID number.

    Cheers for any responses!

    Have no idea why that laughing face is in the title of my thread!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    rossom wrote: »
    Was at a Dublin Nightclub last night which will remain nameless.

    My friend was asked to leave for being too drunk which he did without hassle. I go outside to see if he is ok and then ask the bouncer what time the night club closes at. He tells me the time and says why did I want to know it, to which I responded that I just wanted to reaffirm it for myself. He now tells me I can't get back in because I'm making up fake words that aren't in the English language. I could see the bouncer wasn't letting me back in so I go away for about 45 minutes and try again later.

    The second time he once again doesn't let me in and after a few minutes of querying why I couldn't get back in he proceeds to verbally abuse me. I then ask for his ID number (which is displayed on his jacket) which he point blank refuses to give me.

    Am I, by law, entitled to get this ID number.

    Cheers for any responses!

    Have no idea why that laughing face is in the title of my thread!

    Why do people insist on giving bouncers the satisfaction of trying to get in even after being told they can't?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    rossom wrote: »
    Have no idea why that laughing face is in the title of my thread!

    i thought you were gonna say you got his ID no. and subsequently got your own way against his initial wishes.

    yeah, you can probably ask for it, but he's not really going to give it to you. you're better off saying nothing and keeping your dignity tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Couldnt you tell after your first conversation that you were not going to get anywhere with this guy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,440 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    "Irish Reveller in 'Bouncers are Idiots' Shocker!!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭Thomas828


    Unfortunately bouncers are nearly always a law unto themselves. They're failed policemen.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭mrDerek


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Why do people insist on giving bouncers the satisfaction of trying to get in even after being told they can't?

    hes not askin for a rhetorical question hes askin a simple legal question.

    that bein sed i dno myself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭rossom


    Another bit to the story which I should probably disclose. I have him on video verbally abusing me. Thats more of the reason why I wanted to know could I get his number.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    You should have went home and got the gun.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    Jesus christ, you have him on video? Bit far don't you think? Drop the vendetta OP, dignity can still be reclaimed, not too late.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    rossom wrote: »
    Another bit to the story which I should probably disclose. I have him on video verbally abusing me. Thats more of the reason why I wanted to know could I get his number.

    What do you intend on using his ID number for?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    rossom wrote: »
    Another bit to the story which I should probably disclose. I have him on video verbally abusing me. Thats more of the reason why I wanted to know could I get his number.

    And do what with the video?

    I'm pretty sure its useless as you can't record someone without their consent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,440 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Thomas828 wrote: »
    Unfortunately bouncers are nearly always a law unto themselves. They've failed at life, so they become bouncers.

    FYP!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    rossom wrote: »
    Another bit to the story which I should probably disclose. I have him on video verbally abusing me. Thats more of the reason why I wanted to know could I get his number.

    pfft. antogonising him more was most likely not the approach to take to make him change his mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    rossom wrote: »
    Was at a Dublin Nightclub last night which will remain nameless.

    My friend was asked to leave for being too drunk which he did without hassle. I go outside to see if he is ok and then ask the bouncer what time the night club closes at. He tells me the time and says why did I want to know it, to which I responded that I just wanted to reaffirm it for myself. He now tells me I can't get back in because I'm making up fake words that aren't in the English language. I could see the bouncer wasn't letting me back in so I go away for about 45 minutes and try again later.

    The second time he once again doesn't let me in and after a few minutes of querying why I couldn't get back in he proceeds to verbally abuse me. I then ask for his ID number (which is displayed on his jacket) which he point blank refuses to give me.

    Am I, by law, entitled to get this ID number.

    Cheers for any responses!

    Have no idea why that laughing face is in the title of my thread!
    Erm...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭Scrappychimow


    rossom wrote: »
    Another bit to the story which I should probably disclose. I have him on video verbally abusing me. Thats more of the reason why I wanted to know could I get his number.if I got his phone number, I could meet up and video him sexually abusing me
    :eek:


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Aylin Worried Prince


    "Hello Garda, I want to report a bouncer please, here's his number"
    "Ok and what seems to be the problem"
    "He said I used a word that didn't exist"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,440 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    genericguy wrote: »
    pfft. antogonising him more was most likely not the approach to take to make him change his mind.

    As if a bouncer has ever changed his mind.

    "Actually Sir, i now see that you are not at all drunk and are in fact fit enough to re-enter the premises. Thank you for showing me my error! Go right in and have a good night!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭martyboy48


    In my day you would have been knocked out cold for looking at him sideways :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    As if a bouncer has ever changed his mind.

    "Actually Sir, i now see that you are not at all drunk and are in fact fit enough to re-enter the premises. Thank you for showing me my error! Go right in and have a good night!"

    i did it for a while to put myself through college, and i wasn't unnecessarily cuntish to anybody. if somebody came with a drunk mate, i'd refuse both. if the sober one returned without the mate, i'd let him in as long as he was polite.

    there was one time i refused a drunk southsider, and he took out his credit card and said "fock you, I'll focking buy you. right here, right now, I'll focking buy you."

    that obviously had no relevance to the story, but it made me giggle a bit while i was remembering those shitty days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭mrDerek


    martyboy48 wrote: »
    In my day you would have been knocked out cold for looking at him sideways :)

    thank god its the next day


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    And do what with the video?

    I'm pretty sure its useless as you can't record someone without their consent.

    If that were the case, investigative journalists would be ****ed. A lot of other cases would be throw out of court because the video evidence wouldn't be admissable
    genericguy wrote: »
    i did it for a while to put myself through college, and i wasn't unnecessarily cuntish to anybody. if somebody came with a drunk mate, i'd refuse both. if the sober one returned without the mate, i'd let him in as long as he was polite.

    there was one time i refused a drunk southsider, and he took out his credit card and said "fock you, I'll focking buy you. right here, right now, I'll focking buy you."

    that obviously had no relevance to the story, but it made me giggle a bit while i was remembering those shitty days.

    Should have asked him to make you an offer and fax it over to your secretary on Monday morning, so your people could "liease" with his people and maybe run something up the collective flagpole and see if anything flutters.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭ddef


    Well....was your name on the list?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,440 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    genericguy wrote: »
    there was one time i refused a drunk southsider, and he took out his credit card and said "fock you, I'll focking buy you. right here, right now, I'll focking buy you."

    And did he?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    I think it's great that these threads really show the amount of gimps that get refused from night clubs. :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    No we dont have to give out our ID numbers. If you want it, say it to a guard. They are the only people we legally have to give it to.


  • Posts: 15,077 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    And do what with the video?

    I'm pretty sure its useless as you can't record someone without their consent.

    Record whoever and whatever you like, provided it's in a public place :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Prof.Badass


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    As if a bouncer has ever changed his mind.

    "Actually Sir, i now see that you are not at all drunk and are in fact fit enough to re-enter the premises. Thank you for showing me my error! Go right in and have a good night!"

    Meh, I've been allowed into places after being told I can't. Obviously if the bouncer was being a dick, or i'd done something naughty :D I'd know there's no point , but otherwise: if you do it properly, pleading your case can work.

    I get the feeling that staying civil and reserved is the key to not giving power-tripping bouncers the level of satisfaction they crave.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    Should have asked him to make you an offer and fax it over to your secretary on Monday morning, so your people could "liease" with his people and maybe run something up the collective flagpole and see if anything flutters.

    genius :D i wasn't capable of that kind of 360 degree thinking after dark though. i was merely a double-jobbing proletarien at the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,289 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Melion wrote: »
    No we dont have to give out our ID numbers. If you want it, say it to a guard. They are the only people we legally have to give it to.

    There may be no legal standpoint for the OP being given the ID number, but if what he says is true, and the bouncer threw him out for the reasons stated.. then it was a dickish thing to do


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,440 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    There may be no legal standpoint for the OP being given the ID number, but if what he says is true, and the bouncer threw him out for the reasons stated.. then it was a dickish thing to do

    GET OUT!!

    You can't just go around making words up!


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