Osvaldo Ardiles is awful, bring in Guillum Balague or Roberto Martinez or someone

CorkMan · 21-06-2010 02:46PM #1

I have no idea what he is saying half of the time.

"it is' a good game today, the pitch plays good for the teams, who score most of the goals. I think the Denmark will win".

All in a rapid accent. Anyone with me? Can't they afford to hire Guillum Balague from Spain? He would be 10000X better than this pundit.

HalloweenJack · 21-06-2010 02:49PM

Balague is the Spanish Dunphy. No thanks.

curry-muff · 21-06-2010 02:49PM

Ballague is a complete twat, but yes I agree Ardilles is also crap.

whatawaster · 21-06-2010 02:49PM

CorkMan wrote: »

I have no idea what he is saying half of the time.

"it is' a good game today, the pitch plays good for the teams, who score most of the goals. I think the Denmark will win".

All in a rapid accent. Anyone with me? Can't they afford to hire Guillum Balague from Spain? He would be 10000X better than this pundit.

Ozzie's a legend, you leave him alone.

Ballague is a spoofer

21-06-2010 02:59PM

Coming from a Cork man OP ?

Only kidding, yeah I can't listen to him tbh. I'd sooner listen to Whelan which says it all.

CorkMan · 21-06-2010 03:01PM

But come on! Osvaldo appears to be brought in as the cheapest world cup winner they could get on the panel.

Balague would have great analysis, and he speaks fluent English and not too quick too.

Savman · 21-06-2010 03:04PM

Christ, don't be afraid to try culture yourselves listening to a non-British Isles accent. It's a big world out there, embrace it :rolleyes:

SlickRic · 21-06-2010 03:04PM

CorkMan wrote: »

Balague would have great analysis

now i know you're taking the p*ss.

thanks.

jesus_thats_gre · 21-06-2010 03:06PM

He does talk a bit fast sometimes but he seems to know his stuff.

CorkMan · 21-06-2010 03:12PM

SlickRic wrote: »

now i know you're taking the p*ss.

thanks.

I listened to him before, he has been great for sky sports.

murpho999 · 21-06-2010 03:12PM

I sometimes wonder if people who have complained about Ossie have ever been abroad in their life.

The man, as I posted in other threads has a heavy accent but is perfectly understandable. You do realise he is speaking in a foreign language for him. Wonder if you realise how difficult that is?

I haven't heard anything wrong with his comments so far so just broaden your horizons....not every one can speak 'Cork'!

SlickRic · 21-06-2010 03:15PM

CorkMan wrote: »

I listened to him before, he has been great for sky sports.

he waffles, spoofs and covers his cr*p with 'my sources tell me' constantly.

he plays the 'i'm Spanish, therefore I have all the sources you wish you had' card far too often, and he generally has a smug face on him while doing it.

watch him next time.

he hedges his bets constantly with rumours; he'll never outright break any sort of news, but merely speculate using his 'sources' line.

he could have told you Rafa's leaving, while implying Rafa's staying, in the same sentence.

Smegball · 21-06-2010 03:19PM

Ballague makes Jamie Redknapp look like a top top pundit! I'd rather turn on the dodgy Chinese sopcast streams half time coverage than listen to Ballague.

deisedevil · 21-06-2010 03:21PM

SlickRic wrote: »

he plays the 'i'm Spanish, therefore I have all the sources you wish you had'

Edit: Wrong man, sorry.

LeeroyJones · 21-06-2010 03:22PM

CorkMan wrote: »

I listened to him before, he has been great for sky sports.

he's great for what sky sports want, where the quantity of talking is of higher priority than the substance in whats been said

IvySlayer · 21-06-2010 03:22PM

I don't dislike him as a pundit because of his accent, I dislike him because he offers nothing new. Hamann was different. Brush up on your South American football Dietar.

RATM · 21-06-2010 03:23PM

Leave Ossie alone, Im having a great laugh at his mumblings, utterances and general manager like talk. He just waffles on without giving a whole lot of insight, he rarely mentions players names or talks about tactics. He just mumbles some sort of drivel and it has me in stitches laughing. Go on Ossie ya mad thing

CorkMan · 21-06-2010 03:32PM

murpho999 wrote: »

The man, as I posted in other threads has a heavy accent but is perfectly understandable. You do realise he is speaking in a foreign language for him. Wonder if you realise how difficult that is?

Have you heared Dieterr Hamann? I never even knew English wasn't his first english for a while, he spoke with such grace.

deisedevil · 21-06-2010 03:37PM

CorkMan wrote: »

Have you heared Dieterr Hamann? I never even knew English wasn't his first english for a while, he spoke with such grace.

Haven't been watching football long then no? Did you not know he was German at all?

_Bella_ · 21-06-2010 03:38PM

I can understand him fine, he is good for his knowledge on some of the lesser known teams.

murpho999 · 21-06-2010 03:38PM

CorkMan wrote: »

Have you heared Dieterr Hamann? I never even knew English wasn't his first english for a while, he spoke with such grace.

Yes, but he is younger, and comes from Germany where they are thought English in school from a young age. The name Dietmar Hamman, is also a give away that German might be his first language, as well playing for Germany in 2002 World Cup Final.
Ossie, is from another generation, growing up in the 50's & 60's in Argentina I'm sure didn't entail English lessons and arrived at 'Tottingham' without a word of English.

So he is completely self taught, and has done a pretty good job.

Think it's very unfair of you to come on here and berate him just because of his accent.

CorkMan · 21-06-2010 03:45PM

i'm just saying surely RTE could get a better punter. I find difficulty in understanding him sometimes, and I reckon RTE could have got a better pundit.

I said I think Guillem Balague would be a good candidate.

The Sparrow · 21-06-2010 03:57PM

Guillem Balague??? Are you mad???

I can see it now

Bill: Take us through the first goal, Guilleme.
Balague: Well my sources in Barchhelona tell me that it was definitely a goal.
Bill: Well I think we can see that ourselves.
Balague: Yessh my sources also tell me that Rafa Benitez thinks it was a goal and is very interested in the job at Madrid.
Brady: He's a spoofer, Billlllll

Ossie is grand. The man is a world cup winner ffs, not some rent a quote journalist.

kronsington · 21-06-2010 04:58PM

struggled to understand what Ardiles just said there, i doubt im the only one

DB10 · 21-06-2010 05:02PM

He is not great. Definitely a real step down from Hamann anyway.

Seems heavily biased towards S.American countries and yes I know he is from there. Kept rubbishing the Swiss team. Their tactics worked against Spain Ossie, that is why they used them again and if they didn't have a man unfairly sent off they might have attacked more.

There was alot of people they could have got in instead.

CorkMan · 21-06-2010 05:04PM

whats this about "the crazy one" who locks himself in his farm for six months and only watched football? from the mouth of Ozzy

DB10 · 21-06-2010 05:07PM

CorkMan wrote: »

whats this about "the crazy one" who locks himself in his farm for six months and only watched football? from the mouth of Ozzy

I guessed the Chile manager. Who knows really...:(

If you concentrate you can make out most of what he says. But in all fairness who wants to concentrate on making out a pundits words. We should not need to.

Panel have spouted some bollocks in this analysis. Maloney encouraging them as well.

CorkMan · 21-06-2010 05:15PM

he was on about england and france in the world cup final there.

21-06-2010 05:23PM

RATM wrote: »

Leave Ossie alone, Im having a great laugh at his mumblings, utterances and general manager like talk. He just waffles on without giving a whole lot of insight, he rarely mentions players names or talks about tactics. He just mumbles some sort of drivel and it has me in stitches laughing. Go on Ossie ya mad thing

basically so we have an Argentinian Dunphy albeit with a world cup medal in his arse pocket (oh sorry....i meant in the bank

)

i like Ossie. he is funny and not afraid to shoot from the hip if not a little hard to understand.

Didn't he play for "Tottingham" one time?

21-06-2010 05:25PM

murpho999 wrote: »

Yes, but he is younger, and comes from Germany where they are thought English in school from a young age. The name Dietmar Hamman, is also a give away that German might be his first language, as well playing for Germany in 2002 World Cup Final.
Ossie, is from another generation, growing up in the 50's & 60's in Argentina I'm sure didn't entail English lessons and arrived at 'Tottingham' without a word of English.

So he is completely self taught, and has done a pretty good job.

Think it's very unfair of you to come on here and berate him just because of his accent.

f*ck you beat me to it. i really must start reading these threads

FatherTed · 21-06-2010 06:13PM

OP you must be joking. Balague is a gobshyte of the highest order. Plus Martinez is on ESPN in the US.

Osvaldo Ardiles is awful, bring in Guillum Balague or Roberto Martinez or someone

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