Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread [mod warning #11145, #32140 (see OP)]

Headshot · 19-06-2010 11:08PM

according to the rags Hodgson will be appointed this week

PFL · 19-06-2010 11:13PM

And Pellegrini to be named as well - these rumours are head wrecking I wish it was just confirmed and we can get on with pre-season and re-building.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liverpool-manager-latest-Manuel-Pellegrini-agent-There-is-an-offer-from-England-article479309.html

SlickRic · 19-06-2010 11:16PM

i'm delighted at this stage with either. more so Pellegrini tbh.

forgetting momentarily what's gone on before with Rafa of course.

ziggy · 19-06-2010 11:18PM

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PFL · 19-06-2010 11:22PM

Agree 100% if we get 25 mil + - take it, run and let him go.

Mr Alan · 19-06-2010 11:23PM

I think that's absolute bollox. When talking about a player, you can only judge them on the position they play in and the attributes they require for that job. Vidic is one of the best players in the world, wouldn't fancy him pinging 60 yard passes all over the shop etc.

wobblyknees · 19-06-2010 11:23PM

I agree, he needs to improve on his shot stopping and commanding of his area before he can truly be considered great.

ziggy · 19-06-2010 11:25PM

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Mister men · 19-06-2010 11:26PM

Another 25 mill for the owners then. How much of that do you think the new yes man (sorry manager) will see?

ziggy · 19-06-2010 11:31PM

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PFL · 19-06-2010 11:33PM

While I wouldn't trust the Yanks with anything I do believe any money raised will be put back into the team - a fire sale of players will only devalue the club further, any new owners want to buy a genuine prospect - selling star players and not reinvesting won't bring them the return they're looking for - (Not that the f**kers deserve a cent)

Mr Alan · 19-06-2010 11:36PM

Mascherano's passing is decent though, its not Xabi-esque, but they play different roles in the team. Scholes can't tackle to save his life, never stopped him being one of the best around, simple fact is he could do just enough to get by in that department, but it was more the role of others in the team, while he excelled at what he did.

Mister men · 19-06-2010 11:37PM

So by your standards Maradona was'nt a great player because he did'nt defend. Or maybe Buffon does'nt score enough goals. Bollocks. Mascherano is great at what he does. The best in the World at the moment and add to that the fact he is next to never injured is a bonus. The man is a huge player for Liverpool and to be perfectly truthful 25m is an insult for him.

SlickRic · 19-06-2010 11:38PM

in his position, and in his role in the team, Masch needs to...

1) get around the pitch quickly.
2) have a good reading of the game so as to snuff out danger.
3) have a strong tackle.
4) be able to pass the ball.

not much else.

he gets around the pitch excellently.

he reads the game fine, not brilliantly, but such is his speed, he gets to the danger quicker than most.

he is one of the best tacklers in the game; giving away his fair share of fouls, but he manages to successfully break up play a huge amount.

despite what many will tell you he can pass the ball; not like (as Al said) a Pirlo, but he's sufficient.

over-rated my hole. you'll always get some club fans of players saying someone is the greatest in the world and overselling it, but i think in general people get it bang on about Masch.

after all, Barca wouldn't be after him for nothing either.

Kess73 · 19-06-2010 11:44PM

Reina must be **** if overall ability is the barometer and not being as good as you can be for your position. Gets no goals, brutal tackles won %, all the git does is stand in goals.

ziggy · 19-06-2010 11:44PM

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19-06-2010 11:46PM

Mash is a top top player but not irreplaceable like Torres.

Anyway if he really wants to leave, let him go.

Players that don't want to play for us should leave at the right price.

Anyway, I'd imagine the Liverpool players in question will see who is appointed before making decisions on their futures.

SlickRic · 19-06-2010 11:48PM

so Scholes, judged on overall ability, is vastly over-rated then?

ziggy · 19-06-2010 11:50PM

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Kess73 · 19-06-2010 11:53PM

Well if a player is to be judged by all possible aspects of their position, then there are suddenly a hell of a lot more overrated players out there.

Taking that logic pretty much the whole squad is overrated bar Reina and Torres.

wobblyknees · 19-06-2010 11:54PM

I think I get it now. A midfielder like Mascherano sould be judged on all aspects of Midfieldery!

mike65 · 19-06-2010 11:55PM

Paul Tompkins reports that Pelligrinis agent is saying there is an offer earlier today, now the papers report Hodgson with the backdrop of Capellos departure if England don't win the final group game (Roy must be the most likely to get the job), Mark Hughes is reported as Fulhams next boss by the NOTW

Mr Alan · 19-06-2010 11:55PM

Torres is ****e at penos, as a striker i reckon that makes him rubbish

ziggy · 19-06-2010 11:56PM

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Mr Alan · 19-06-2010 11:58PM

but Mascherano is a good passer, so why exactly can't he be judged as one of the best defensive midfielders in the world?

wobblyknees · 19-06-2010 11:58PM

Reported by a few. Do you think the tabloids all rang each other to confirm lead stories to give themselves more credibility?

ziggy · 20-06-2010 12:00AM

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Mr Alan · 20-06-2010 12:01AM

its actually true, he's awful at them.

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Mr Alan · 20-06-2010 12:08AM

i agree, so we all agree, Masch is one of the best defensive midfielders on the planet

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