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Man dies by firing squad in US

  • 18-06-2010 09:45AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭Lando Griffin


    Man dies by firing squad in US A US man convicted of two murders has died by firing squad. 49 year old Ronnie Lee Gardner from Utah - has become the first person executed in a hail of bullets - in the United States - since 1976. He'd been addicted to hard drugs as a child - spent 18 months in a mental hospital - and been abused in a foster home. Brian West from The Desert News says Gardner fought this case hard:

    http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_utah-firing-squad-executes-convicted-killer_1398037

    Who would have volenteered to be in the firing squad?

    I wonder was it a firing squad or mechanical computerised guns.

    Is this a more humane way of killing someone than the chair or injection or hanging.

    Will they be beheading any time soon?

    Whats wrong with the Irish solution of giving concurrent 14 year sentences to be out in 7.

    What capital punishment is acceptable and humane? 0 votes

    Should be no capital punishment at all.
    0% 0 votes
    Hanging.
    0% 0 votes
    Beheading.
    0% 0 votes
    Electric Cahir
    0% 0 votes
    Lethal Injection
    0% 0 votes
    Shot by firing squad.
    0% 0 votes
    All of the above
    0% 0 votes


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Danbo!


    It was a 5-man firing squad and 1 gun is loaded with blanks, the idea being that all five men have some doubt as to whether they killed him or not.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Why does execution have to be humane?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    I think in some states you choose the manner of your execution. I doubt a court ordered death by firing squad. If it was me i'd have to go with the oul injection. Imagine only taking a stomach wound on the first volley. Not a nice way to go.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,722 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Stee wrote: »
    It was a 5-man firing squad and 1 gun is loaded with blanks, the idea being that all five men have some doubt as to whether they killed him or not.

    Jaysus, crappy way to go, by firing blanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,838 ✭✭✭phill106


    Man dies by firing squad in US A US man convicted of two murders has died by firing squad. 49 year old Ronnie Lee Gardner from Utah - has become the first person executed in a hail of bullets - in the United States - since 1976. He'd been addicted to hard drugs as a child - spent 18 months in a mental hospital - and been abused in a foster home. Brian West from The Desert News says Gardner fought this case hard:

    Who would have volenteered to be in the firing squad?

    I wonder was it a firing squad or mechanical computerised guns.

    Is this a more humane way of killing someone than the chair or injection or hanging.

    Will they be beheading any time soon?
    I remember hearing about this on the radio a few weeks ago. Firing squads were outlawed by Utah in 2004 but the ban was not retroactive, so if the death penalty was imposed before that date, firing squad was an option the prisoner could choose.
    As for the squad itself, one shooter in each squad has a blank instead of a real bullet, so they all aim and shoot , but can all ease their conscience by thinking they had the blank, even though they had no way to know.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    NothingMan wrote: »
    I think in some states you choose the manner of your execution. I doubt a court ordered death by firing squad. If it was me i'd have to go with the oul injection. Imagine only taking a stomach wound on the first volley. Not a nice way to go.

    I'd rather go out 'Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid' style than Sam 'Lethal injection' Worthington in Terminator Salvation.
    We all know what ended up happening to him .... that's right he became a robot ... on-screen in Clash of the Titans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭novarock


    according to BBC anyone convicted before 2004 in Utah can choose their own method of execution. They reckon this guy chose firing squad because he wanted to be cleaned up afterwards...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    That State no longer offers prisoners the choice to be executed by firing squad, but this guy was sentenced before that came into effect - he killed a lawyer whilst trying to escape a courtroom in 1985, and later chose firing squad as his method of execution.

    If I had to be executed, firing squad would be my preferred option - it's messy, but I wouldn't trust these assertions that lethal injections are perfectly humane and so forth. You don't argue with a bullet to the heart.


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Kyla Prickly Paperboy


    There was some debate on an article I read as to whether a lethal injection is actually more humane or not. I thought it would be straightforward go to sleep type of ending, maybe it's paralytic and painful? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭Lando Griffin


    novarock wrote: »
    according to BBC anyone convicted before 2004 in Utah can choose their own method of execution. They reckon this guy chose firing squad because he wanted to be cleaned up afterwards...

    Could you choose to be sexually intercoursed to death by quality street hookers?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    Nijmegen wrote: »
    You don't argue with a bullet to the heart.


    Unless you get a bunch of psycho gunmen who intentionally just wound you for the first round!


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,722 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Being honest, id prefer to be put in an unsed industrial estate with guns with blanks. Id run around the place pretending im some awesome killer. The "baddies" are the Guards with real bullets. THATS how I want to go if I get to choose!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    Linky anyone??

    If it's not in The Daily Mail it didn't happen...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    Could you choose to be sexually intercoursed to death by quality street hookers?

    or Cadbury Celebrations hookers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Who would have volenteered to be in the firing squad?
    They probably chose five U.S. Army marksmen at random who wouldn't have a choice whether or not to participate?
    I wonder was it a firing squad or mechanical computerised guns.
    An automated system seems a bit unnecessary.
    Is this a more humane way of killing someone than the chair or injection or hanging.
    A reporter/documentarian did a good show on this topic previously. He went around the world researching the various methods of execution in use, trying to see which ones are the most humane and which one people would support.
    Unsurprisingly the families of victims were largely in favour of having people executed using the least humane methods possible.

    In the course of it, he volunteered to take part in an experiment in a pressure chamber. They slowly removed the O2 in the chamber and replaced it with something else (think it was Nitrous Oxide, I'm not sure). They brought him pretty much to the brink of death and he reported that the experience was neither painful nor distressing. It is basically the equivalent of making someone get drunk very slowly and nicely before they nod off to sleep and die. No pain at all and he also reported that at a certain point and complete calmness and nonchalance came over him - even he didn't care or notice if he was dying at that stage.

    That seems pretty humane to me.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,505 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    Has nobody seen the meaning of life?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,409 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    NothingMan wrote: »
    Imagine only taking a stomach wound on the first volley. Not a nice way to go.

    The captian of the firing squad then walks over to the person, draws his handgun, puts it to victims head and blows the victim's brains out.

    It's gotta be better than being buried up to your neck and then being stoned to death, or buried alive.

    Why make it humane?, the killer didn't do that for the victim!

    My fav way to execute would be a public hanging using the low-drop.

    Let the family, friends(of the dead victim) and onlookers enjoy the prisoner's last twitches.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭the keen edge


    Could you choose to be sexually intercoursed to death by quality street hookers?

    Yeah right, it would more probably be by this guy here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    It was 5 police officers according to Newstalk.

    all identities protected, and they were behind a screen so onlookers couldn't see them.

    They all volunteered for it and got paid to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    I choose Death by Snu Snu!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    I choose Death by Snu Snu!



    Love Brannigan at the end. :p


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 2,163 Mod ✭✭✭✭Oink


    seamus wrote: »
    Unsurprisingly the families of victims were largely in favour of having people executed using the least humane methods possible.


    I've often heard that one about capital punishment in the states: They don't simply want justice, they want revenge. Don't get me wrong, I would too if I was a relative of the victim. But you'd think the institutions would be above that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 master_chief


    phill106 wrote: »
    but can all ease their conscience by thinking they had the blank, even though they had no way to know.

    If they wanted to be ok with their conscience they would not apply for fire squad job in the first place... would they? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    I choose Death by Snu Snu!

    beaten by a minute, you've just made my enemies list.
    Wanna see it?

    "I really like cookie_monster"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    Most methods of execution can be botched. The firing squad works on the basis that with 5 men, 4 with live rounds, aiming at a stationary target with a white sheet on the area they need to hit, they're likely to do it quickly.

    Hanging can often go wrong leaving the person strangling for a long time rather than snapping the right bits of their neck and spine and killing them within a relatively short time. They fudged the execution of von Ribbentrop and he apparently took a quarter of an hour to die.

    The electric chair is obvious.

    The lethal injection is hard to tell, because it's a couple of things they give you to first paralise and then stop the heart. It can be botched with the wrong dosages, but even when done correctly there's a wonder if it isn't extremely painful.

    The idea of the room they remove oxygen from is humane, but very slow and there is an argument to say that the person being executed should feel at least fear and at best remorse as they go to their end.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 2,163 Mod ✭✭✭✭Oink



    They all volunteered for it and got paid to do it.

    *barf*

    "-Hey Joe, where'd you get the money for the car?
    -That's a funny one, see I..."


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Could you choose to be sexually intercoursed to death by quality street hookers?

    Mmmm, chocolate tarts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    The whole point of execution in the US, is that it has to be 'cruel and unusual.' It's punishment. It's not supposed to be humane. I don't agree with it, but that's the reason it's inhumane.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 2,163 Mod ✭✭✭✭Oink


    Nijmegen wrote: »
    there is an argument to say that the person being executed should feel at least fear and at best remorse as they go to their end.


    See my post above. They're killing the baxtard (who may be scum of the earth btw), but that's not enough. He has to make us feel vindicated by being remorseful. What a joke.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭novarock


    Could you choose to be sexually intercoursed to death by quality street hookers?

    Id ask to be stoned to death with marshmallows..


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