Racing post Pricewise Tom Segal Paper tips

winslow · 17-06-2010 12:47AM

POINTBREAK wrote: »

PWE 19 losers since the start of the month.
Tom on PWE 25 since a winner.
Tom is still ahead on Royal Ascot and Hugh only made a profit of 1 point today.(Wednesday)

I could be wrong, but I think Tom has had 10 tips at Ascot, with one winner (Junior) advised at 9/1, SP 17/2. Does that not leave him even at advised, and a half point behind at SP for Ascot?

POINTBREAK · 17-06-2010 10:32AM

winslow wrote: »

I could be wrong, but I think Tom has had 10 tips at Ascot, with one winner (Junior) advised at 9/1, SP 17/2. Does that not leave him even at advised, and a half point behind at SP for Ascot?

It would do but I keep the records using the Betfair SP because that is the price that everyone can get rather than the advised price. At BSP he is 2pts ahead for the meeting. Hugh Taylor is 1pt down so there isn't much difference.

POINTBREAK · 17-06-2010 10:55AM

7 more Pricewise tips today.

betstop · 17-06-2010 12:02PM

POINTBREAK wrote: »

It would do but I keep the records using the Betfair SP because that is the price that everyone can get rather than the advised price. At BSP he is 2pts ahead for the meeting. Hugh Taylor is 1pt down so there isn't much difference.

I would highly advise everybody back the tips at the recommended odds, you will be much better off in the long run. Bet365 were great again today, 3 of the 6 tips were available at recommended odds. Stan James had 2 and William Hill had the other.

Do you include commission for the Betfair SP?

POINTBREAK · 17-06-2010 12:50PM

betstop wrote: »

I would highly advise everybody back the tips at the recommended odds, you will be much better off in the long run. Bet365 were great again today, 3 of the 6 tips were available at recommended odds. Stan James had 2 and William Hill had the other.

Do you include commission for the Betfair SP?

Betstop its plain to everyone that you are trying to promote Bet365 etc because you have affiliate deals with them. So less of the concerned citizen stuff.

betstop · 17-06-2010 01:10PM

POINTBREAK wrote: »

Betstop its plain to everyone that you are trying to promote Bet365 etc because you have affiliate deals with them. So less of the concerned citizen stuff.

I've affiliate deals with 18 bookmakers, so I promote Bet365 who have the lowest commision levels? Don't be foolish. I haven't even mentioned our website, just some advice that anybody looking to back Tom Segal's tips should be aware that Bet365 is a good spot for this week.

It's quite shocking, I think, that your website has a lot of information about Pricewise, yet you fail to mention the most important part which should surely be how to obtain the recommended odds. You weren't even aware that Stan James guaranteed their prices until I told you in a private message a fortnight ago.

The Racing Post don't advertise which bookmakers guarantee their prices enough, in my opinion, but everybody backing the tips should be aware of this.

On a lighter note, let's hope Tom has found us a winner (or two!) today.

POINTBREAK · 17-06-2010 01:29PM

It's quite shocking, I think, that your website has a lot of information about Pricewise, yet you fail to mention the most important part which should surely be how to obtain the recommended odds. You weren't even aware that Stan James guaranteed their prices until I told you in a private message a fortnight ago.

Are you really so naive Betstop or are you deliberately misleading people?. All that is just a publicity stunt by the bookies. None of them that I emailed would even tell me what size bet they would take and I was offering them free publicity.

Stan James do not guarantee prices for 10 minutes on Pricewise horses as you claim
Stan James themselves say...
Prices for Pricewise selections are available from 08.30 on Saturday morning and are offered on a first come, first serve basis until the liability levels have been reached (approximately 5 to 10 minutes).

mailburner · 17-06-2010 01:45PM

stan james dont guarantee prices on irish racing

they dont deserve our custom

betstop · 17-06-2010 01:45PM

POINTBREAK wrote: »

Are you really so naive Betstop or are you deliberately misleading people?.

I am neither naive or would I ever mislead other punters.

POINTBREAK wrote: »

Stan James do not guarantee prices for 10 minutes on Pricewise horses as you claim

You are wrong, Stan James do guarantee their prices from 8.30am to 8.40am for the Pricewise tips. I told you that in a PM two weeks ago yet you still haven't copped on, ridiculous.

Take a look at the price history for the tips today on Oddschecker and come back and apologise to me. Stan James at 8.30 put Purple Moon out to 33s (recommended odds) and at 8.40 cut him to 16s. Stan James guarantee all their prices for Pricewise, every day.

POINTBREAK wrote: »

All that is just a publicity stunt by the bookies. None of them that I emailed would even tell me what size bet they would take and I was offering them free publicity.

Wrong again. Take a look here for each bookmaker's policy. I can guarantee that those bookmakers do guarantee their prices.

You say you emailed them, did you never bother to check yourself if they reverted the prices at the stated times? There wouldn't be a lot of effort involved, just look at the price history on oddschecker.

Don't come on here pretending I'm lying, I've been backing Tom Segal's tips for some time and know how to get the most from them.

betstop · 17-06-2010 01:49PM

mailburner wrote: »

stan james dont guarantee prices on irish racing

they dont deserve our custom

Hi Mailburner, they don't do best price guaranteed for Irish racing, which is very bad form if you ask me. Especially as lots of punters aren't aware of this. Also, they are trying to increase their market share in Ireland so it's pretty poor. They will revert to their original prices for Pricewise tips in Ireland though.

POINTBREAK · 17-06-2010 02:04PM

If anyone would like to email Stan James they will get the same reply I got.

I like they way you "guarantee" stuff there Betstop. What are you backing up your guarantee with? Your reputation as a affiliate promoting 18 bookies?

betstop · 17-06-2010 02:08PM

POINTBREAK wrote: »

I like they way you "guarantee" stuff there Betstop. What are you backing up your guarantee with?

Years of experience.

If anybody wants to make quite a bit of money from the Pricewise tips, I'd suggest you check out the bookmakers tomorrow morning, no need to take my word for it.

POINTBREAK · 17-06-2010 02:10PM

betstop wrote: »

Don't come on here pretending I'm lying, I've been backing Tom Segal's tips for some time and know how to get the most from them.

Your original claim was that you were beating the Pricewise advised price by up to 15%. Not lying............ misguided I would say.

betstop · 17-06-2010 02:13PM

The claim was (and still is) that if you follow the Pricewise policy on our website, you will average 105%-115% of the recommended odds. This does involve arbing which puts some people off.

betstop · 17-06-2010 02:15PM

betstop wrote: »

Take a look at the price history for the tips today on Oddschecker and come back and apologise to me. Stan James at 8.30 put Purple Moon out to 33s (recommended odds) and at 8.40 cut him to 16s. Stan James guarantee all their prices for Pricewise, every day.

This is another piece of good advice I have given you that you have chosen to ignore.

Verance · 17-06-2010 05:56PM

I owe TS some amount of drinks!! Another winner today, thank you Tom.

8/1 winner, 15/1 and 8/1 seconds and 33/1 third, 18/1 fourth, keep up the good work Tom

POINTBREAK · 17-06-2010 08:11PM

betstop wrote: »

This is another piece of good advice I have given you that you have chosen to ignore.

Stan James in their email to me said, and I quote We offer the prices until our liability is reached, usually 5 or 10 minutes.
Their liability could be £20 quid. They wouldn't say. They also ducked the question as to how much they would be prepared to lay.

Here is their email. They do not "guarantee" anything.
"Samuel" <cservice@stanjames.com>
Prices for Pricewise selections are available from 08.30 on Saturday morning and are offered on a first come, first serve basis until the liability levels have been reached (approximately 5 to 10 minutes).
The amount we are prepared to lay will depend on the price of an individual selection and the status of a customers account.
Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can be of any further assistance.
Kind regards,
Samuel.

Original Message

From: PB
Date: 09/06/2010 15:42:49
To: support@stanjames.com
Subject: Pricewise

Hi, do you guarantee to hold the price on the Pricewise horses on Saturday's and how much will you lay those prices for?

Regards
PB

betstop · 17-06-2010 08:27PM

I'm not quite sure how you don't get this.

I've been following the Pricewise tips for years. Every single Pricewise tip, any day of the week, will be available on Stan James from 8.30am until 8.40am.

Stop your stupid arguing. All you have to do is log into Stan James tomorrow and back the tips between 8.30 and 8.40. Very simple.

Verance · 18-06-2010 05:43PM

2 seconds and 2 thirds, unlucky today..

POINTBREAK · 18-06-2010 11:05PM

Verance wrote: »

2 seconds and 2 thirds, unlucky today..

Yeah, crossbar all day.

Kod-box · 18-06-2010 11:14PM

had that Himalaya in the last aswell, thought he had it when he came bolting up the near rail, have a feeling Tom will have a good day tomorrow

POINTBREAK · 19-06-2010 09:37AM

5 Tips today

winslow · 20-06-2010 12:04PM

POINTBREAK,

You need to clear out your mail box. I couldn't send a message this morning.

qc3 · 20-06-2010 02:03PM

Pricewise 20th JUNE

Down Royal
3.45 Vivacious Vivienne 1pt win

Pontefract
4.10 Theola 1pt win

POINTBREAK · 21-06-2010 11:54AM

http://tipsterform.com/matt-williams-leaves-the-racingpost/

Matt Williams leaves.

POINTBREAK · 23-06-2010 05:05PM

Pricewise Extra actually tipped a winner today. That's one from 28 this month......

winslow · 23-06-2010 10:28PM

POINTBREAK wrote: »

Pricewise Extra actually tipped a winner today. That's one from 28 this month......

Hopefully the winning magic rubs off on Tom for this week ends tips!

POINTBREAK · 24-06-2010 12:24AM

winslow wrote: »

Hopefully the winning magic rubs off on Tom for this week ends tips!

It looks like no matter who you follow they all have long losing runs.

statto1 · 26-06-2010 11:26AM

ny1 have 2days paper tips?

POINTBREAK · 26-06-2010 01:13PM

statto1 wrote: »

ny1 have 2days paper tips?

Here you go

2 tips and a two point bet on Sunday

Racing post Pricewise Tom Segal Paper tips

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