Bishops have asked that our elected representatives follow a different road

Fuck you Bishops and any of the rest of you who feel it's okay to tell anyone how to lead their life. Go take your baby Jesus and....well you have plenty of experience in that.

-Funk

Entitled to have an opinion, and entitled to give that opinion.

While I have no time for the catholic church on this particular issue, I have always thought that TD's should have a free vote on any issue instead of having to vote along the party line.

Why the **** should the church have more of an influence than anyone else?

If it doesn't affect them, they should keep out of it. ****ing assholes. :mad:

Love thy fellow man.

Tis in the Bible.

As long as the church is not being forced to marry them, i don't see why the church should have any say whatsoever in what the law is. Be it a civil partnership or setting speed limits.

Blackhorse Slim wrote: »

I'm shocked by the attitdes displayed towards the Holy Roman Apostolic Catholic Church in this thread.

Ye're all far too lenient on them.

fixed that there

Trashbat wrote: »

If Civil Partnership was asacrement i could understand their position, but still wouldn't agree with it.

I think its issues like this that show the people of Ireland how out of touch with reality the church really are. Anyone objecting to Civil Partnership is doing so purely out of hatred and homophobia, and any other arguement the try to give is a lie.

i'm dont hate gay people nor am i homophobic but i worry about how civil partnerships might lead to same sex adoption etc. although i'm still on the fence with same sex adoption - i'm open to debate on it - at the moment to me it still seems a step too far...maybe i'm old fashioned

thebigbiffo wrote: »

i'm dont hate gay people nor am i homophobic but i worry about how civil partnerships might lead to same sex adoption etc. although i'm still on the fence with same sex adoption - i'm open to debate on it - at the moment to me it still seems a step too far...maybe i'm old fashioned

And smoking weed is a gateway to heroin.

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

If you'd rather see a kid stay in an orphanage/state care as opposed to being given a loving home, then you are a bit of a douche tbh. How often do your parents throw their sexuality in your face in your house? It's not like same sex couples all have some sort of gay/lesbian propaganda/lovefest in their houses.

I mean think about it - Nearly every household in Ireland is a household with a mother and father, and (shock horror) they produce gay kids as well as straight kids.

derfderf wrote: »

And smoking weed is a gateway to heroin.

lads calm down, i'm trying to be as objective as possible here. i'm not suggesting that same sex parenting is wrong or leads to unhappy/unstable children or even that i'm against it, i'm just saying i dont know where i stand on it yet. my viewpoint on it at the moment is that the traditional mother/father upbringing provides input and influence from both sexes and that maybe this is the more natural way to bring up a kid.

i did say in my original post it was something that needed more debate and that's my only point. i've gay friends (i hate when people say that - i've also black friends ) and i've spoken about it with them to and they see the point i'm making. you can't just expect people who've had the 'traditional' upbringing to accept the idea overnight...i know nothing about same sex parenting ffs!!

i do totally accept same sex couples should have the same rights as married couples though...just so we're clear i dont bash homo's in my free time

edit: i dont want any f'uckin bishop involved in the debate either - just so we're back on point