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Afghanistan has nearly $1,000,000,000,000 in mineral wealth.

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  • #32
    Fighting Irish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    If only religion didn't exist


  • #33
    thebigbiffo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    haven't read whole thread but just want to say, due to the thread title...

    WHY THE F'UCK DID YOU THINK THE YANKS WERE THERE

    freedom me hole


  • #34
    Absurdum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,444 ✭✭✭Absurdum


    how many bottles of Fanta is that


  • #35
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    happyeveryday wrote: »
    If you believe the media we could add 500billion to our commitments presently to account for bank guarantees, NAMA and Anglo Irish. But you should then accept the assets of the country too....but we'll leave that out for now.

    Thats now 590billion or 134k pp.

    We probably shouldn't.. Your number makes zero sense even with it included but even less with it excluded.


  • #36
    karma_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,797 ✭✭✭karma_


    Rule number one, page number one of the big rule book of war states;

    1. Don't get involved in a land war in Afghanistan.

    No one has ever successfully invaded Afghanistan, ever. The Americans/NATO have been there almost 10 years now and still making zero progress.


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  • #37
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    karma_ wrote: »
    Rule number one, page number one of the big rule book of war states;

    1. Don't get involved in a land war in Afghanistan.

    No one has ever successfully invaded Afghanistan, ever. The Americans/NATO have been there almost 10 years now and still making zero progress.
    Has there ever been a successful invasion of any country?


  • #38
    karma_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,797 ✭✭✭karma_


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Has there ever been a successful invasion of any country?

    Yes, of course.


  • #39
    Ali Babba
    Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭Ali Babba


    Well if it was Ireland had that much mineral wealth we'd just give the lot to BP.................


  • #40
    peasant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    happyeveryday wrote: »
    Where did you get the 440,000 USD figure?

    from him, he usually knows what he's talking about (but not always :D)


  • #41
    The_Minister
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    Fighting Irish wrote: »
    If only religion didn't exist

    Most of the Taliban are really only local warlords - most of the problems in Afghanistan have nothing to do with religion.


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  • #42
    Manic Moran
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    The_Minister wrote: »
    (is that enough zeros for a trillion?).
    Link

    Article is too long to quote (two pages), but essentially Afghanistan could, if developed, become one of the wealthiest countries in the Middle East, instead of one of the poorest.

    Will this end the war in Afghanistan, or exacerbate it?

    This is anything but news. They have three major potential industries. First gemstones. I came back with rubies, saphires, an emerald, and other such for fractions of what they would have cost me at home. I'm not joking when I say we'd stop at the side of the road and see if we couldn't find some ruby by the river.

    Secondly, they supposedly have the purest, largest reserves of copper in the world.

    Thirdly, they'll make an absolute killing at the whitewater rafting industry.

    The big problem is getting to where the minerals are. To get mining equipment there, they need to first have roads. These roads do not exist. The first priority of road construction is to link the administrative centres, then the towns. They're still building to the admin centres. Eventually they'll get to the mine-head areas, but they're looking to get the basics down first.

    NTM


  • #43
    galwayrush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,816 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    The Russians sure made a **** up by quitting the place,LOL They gave up Alaska and all it's oil years ago for a relatively small sum of money .


  • #44
    happyeveryday
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭happyeveryday


    Deleted User wrote: »
    We probably shouldn't.. Your number makes zero sense even with it included but even less with it excluded.

    If you go back a few posts you'll see I was looking for an explanation behind the ""440,000 USD debt per capita in Ireland"".
    I'm still confused by it, but i was trying to see how you could arrive at it and well if you add the national debt (€90billion), the bank deposit guarantee (€440 billion) and NAMA/Anglo (€60 billion to date) you arrive at €590 billion for a population of 4.4 million.

    Thanks peasant, not a reliable source then. Think we are comparing public and private (household & company) debt in Ireland ie Total debt figures with the US quasi public debt.

    I'll stop now.....off thread i think


  • #45
    aligator_am
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭aligator_am


    Elevator wrote: »
    you bet it certainly adds up to be one of reasons they're in the country alright, such an amount of monies to be made each year in smack production

    ya got to wonder how they miss the poppy fields when they're capable of searching 70% of the country from the skies

    You may find this interesting:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t372emhXa60


  • #46
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Manic Moran wrote: »
    This is anything but news. They have three major potential industries. First gemstones. I came back with rubies, saphires, an emerald, and other such for fractions of what they would have cost me at home. I'm not joking when I say we'd stop at the side of the road and see if we couldn't find some ruby by the river.

    Secondly, they supposedly have the purest, largest reserves of copper in the world.

    Thirdly, they'll make an absolute killing at the whitewater rafting industry.
    Excellent news, it's much easier to sell democracy to a populace when they've something to pay for it with.


  • #47
    nacho libre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,758 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    SIX PACK wrote: »
    Your ignorance amuses me...


    Are the likes of William Blum ignorant too? Does he know what he's talking about?


  • #48
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    karma_ wrote: »
    Rule number one, page number one of the big rule book of war states;

    1. Don't get involved in a land war in Afghanistan.

    No one has ever successfully invaded Afghanistan, ever. The Americans/NATO have been there almost 10 years now and still making zero progress.
    You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia"

    successful invasions that weren't repelled by the afgans
    Cyrus II
    Darius I
    Alexander the Great
    The Kushans
    Why do you think it's a Muslim country , successful invasion !
    Mongols were there for three centuries too

    and the Americana neo-cons gave a lot of support to the islamic fundamentalists and are still reaping the whirlwind from it


  • #49
    nacho libre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,758 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

    and the Americana neo-cons gave a lot of support to the islamic fundamentalists and are still reaping the whirlwind from it

    You mean the American Government was supporting terrorists, while the benevolent Russians were trying to defeat them and bring about freedom and democracy to Afghanistan :eek:


  • #50
    jesus_thats_gre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,446 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    Wazdakka wrote: »
    There's still plenty of them in America...

    And America has a national debt of over 13,000,000,000,000 (Trillion)
    That's over $42,000 per us citizen.
    They have to be the most in debt / poorest country at the moment :confused:

    Significantly overplayed fact of the decade!


  • #51
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    nacho libre wrote: »
    You mean the American Government was supporting terrorists, while the benevolent Russians were trying to defeat them and bring about freedom and democracy to Afghanistan :eek:
    All the Russians were doing was to launch a pre-emptive strike against those responsible for 911. And it would have worked too except for those meddling kids in the CIA :p


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  • #52
    Capt'n Midnight
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    Manic Moran wrote: »
    The big problem is getting to where the minerals are. To get mining equipment there, they need to first have roads. These roads do not exist. The first priority of road construction is to link the administrative centres, then the towns. They're still building to the admin centres. Eventually they'll get to the mine-head areas, but they're looking to get the basics down first.

    NTM
    Sounds like that mine in New Guinea
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grasberg_mine
    Freeport built the Ertsberg mine at 4,500 metres (14,000 ft) above sea level
    ...
    In 1977 the rebel group Free Papua Movement attacked the mine. The group dynamited the main slurry pipe, which caused tens of millions of dollars in damage, and attacked the mine facilities. The Indonesian military reacted harshly, killing at least 800 people
    ...
    The open pit mine – which forms a mile-wide crater at the surface
    ...
    The mine is located within 20 km of small equatorial mountain glaciers that serve as indicators of climate change in the region. Steepening of slopes related to mining activities, as well as earthquakes and frequent heavy rainfall, have resulted in landslides within the open pit mine


  • #53
    upandcumming
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭upandcumming


    wes wrote: »
    Well hopefully, the government there can get its act together, and ensure that all ethnic groups get a fair share of the wealth, and Afghanistan can become a nice place to live for its people, as apposed to the current war torn nation that it is.
    No one give a shíte if its war torn! Oh yeah its terrible, but no one cares, Including myself!


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