Labour the most popular

thetonynator · 10-06-2010 10:30PM #1

Basically we're all fu*ked if there was an election in the morning. :eek:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0610/politics.html

Labour has become the most popular political party in the country for the first time ever, according to an opinion poll in tomorrow's Irish Times.
The Ipsos MRBI poll for tomorrow's Irish Times also shows a slump in backing for Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael, and for their leaders.
The poll, taken on Tuesday and yesterday, doesn't fully reflect the impact of the banking reports, but shows a five-point slump in Fianna Fáil support since January, leaving that party on just 17%.
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But Fine Gael are down as well, dropping four points to 28%.
That party is up eight points to 32%; the Greens are unchanged at 3%, Sinn Féin gain one to 9%, and Independents are unchanged at 11%.
Eamon Gilmore also has the highest satisfaction rating of 46%, while satisfaction with Brian Cowen is down 8% to 18%, while Enda Kenny drops 7% to 24%.
Satisfaction with the Government is also down since January, by 7% to 12%, while 83% say they're dissatisfied.
Taoiseach Brian Cowen has insisted that the Government will run for its full term despite a new opinion poll showing a dramatic drop in Fianna Fáil support
Speaking tonight on RTE's Prime Time programme, Mr Cowen said he would not walk away from Government and would make what he called the tough decisions on the economy.
He said people would be able to choose a new government once the current one had run its term.

biko · 10-06-2010 10:31PM

Because you like FF, not Labour?

Ulysses Gaze · 10-06-2010 10:34PM

thetonynator wrote: »

Basically we're all fu*ked if there was an election in the morning. :eek:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0610/politics.html

Nice to see FF (The Soldiers of Bankruptcy) taking a pasting in the polls.

Warms my heart.

I still think they'll do a lot better if there was an election tomorrow.

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 10-06-2010 10:34PM

Hmmmm, I'm concerned about Labour because of trade unions and all that. In fairness, FG should be the next.....
Actually, this just isn't the forum...

danbohan · 10-06-2010 10:35PM

biko wrote: »

Because you like FF, not Labour?

no , because he knows that whatever limited credibility this country has in the financial world and it is very limited would be gone if we elect labour . labour = imf in 6 months max

thetonynator · 10-06-2010 10:37PM

biko wrote: »

Because you like FF, not Labour?

Because i don't like politicians!!!

But i'd take ff over labour . . .I wouldn't mind labour as the minoroty party in a coalition, but not on their own or as a majority.

biko · 10-06-2010 10:37PM

danbohan wrote: »

no , because he knows that whatever limited credibility this country has in the financial world and it is very limited would be gone if we elect labour . labour = imf in 6 months max

That's an assumption on your part. Can you elaborate a bit?

Voltex · 10-06-2010 10:49PM

Gordon Brown for PM!!!!

rovert · 10-06-2010 10:50PM

Knee jerk poll is knee jerk.

Voltex · 10-06-2010 10:50PM

thetonynator wrote: »

Basically we're all fu*ked if there was an election in the morning. :eek:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0610/politics.html

Grodon Brown next Taoiseach

The_Kew_Tour · 10-06-2010 10:50PM

We are fooked already with FF in there.

So Labour cant do any worse.

and i come from FF background

El Siglo · 10-06-2010 10:52PM

thetonynator wrote: »

Basically we're all fu*ked if there was an election in the morning. :eek:

Labour has become the most popular political party in the country for the first time ever, according to an opinion poll in tomorrow's Irish Times.
The Ipsos MRBI poll for tomorrow's Irish Times also shows a slump in backing for Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael, and for their leaders.
The poll, taken on Tuesday and yesterday, doesn't fully reflect the impact of the banking reports, but shows a five-point slump in Fianna Fáil support since January, leaving that party on just 17%.
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But Fine Gael are down as well, dropping four points to 28%.
That party is up eight points to 32%; the Greens are unchanged at 3%, Sinn Féin gain one to 9%, and Independents are unchanged at 11%.
Eamon Gilmore also has the highest satisfaction rating of 46%, while satisfaction with Brian Cowen is down 8% to 18%, while Enda Kenny drops 7% to 24%.
Satisfaction with the Government is also down since January, by 7% to 12%, while 83% say they're dissatisfied.
Taoiseach Brian Cowen has insisted that the Government will run for its full term despite a new opinion poll showing a dramatic drop in Fianna Fáil support
Speaking tonight on RTE's Prime Time programme, Mr Cowen said he would not walk away from Government and would make what he called the tough decisions on the economy.
He said people would be able to choose a new government once the current one had run its term.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0610/politics.html

There might not be a country left before the next general.
Personally, I'd like to see Labour, but picking a party is like picking which type of intestinal parasite you'd like.

johngalway · 10-06-2010 10:54PM

FF or The Beards Party.

God, it's depressing.

Hoping for FG majority, but not expecting such!

easyeason3 · 10-06-2010 10:55PM

So Labour gets into Government... What will they do????

Hate to break it to ya but they won't do much more than any of the rest of them will do.

There is no, NO, political party in the country in a position to take control at the moment. And even if there was a new one created it would still be pissing against the wind cleaning up the previous Governments problems.

In short...you're a favourite runner until you're not actually running.

Wolfe Tone · 10-06-2010 10:56PM

These polls mean **** all. The next one will be greatly changed also, even if they did a poll every day of the week they would be different. The only poll that matters is the General election.

danbohan · 10-06-2010 10:58PM

biko wrote: »

That's an assumption on your part. Can you elaborate a bit?

their is going to be very stringent cuts in public service pay and numbers social welfare rates ,and low paid brought into the tax net , this years 3billion prob just the tip of iceberg , do you think labour have stomach for it ? , nope , their solution will be to tax the people / industry that might create some employment out of the country . this country is is tethering on edge of defaulting inside next year or so , with labour its a certainty

Horse_box · 10-06-2010 10:58PM

If Fine gael got a decent leader they would run away with an election. Enda is holding them back big time

starbelgrade · 10-06-2010 11:04PM

Horse_box wrote: »

If Fine gael got a decent leader they would run away with an election. Enda is holding them back big time

The day of the Cyborgs will be soon. Patience my friend. Patience.

thetonynator · 10-06-2010 11:06PM

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

These polls mean **** all. The next one will be greatly changed also, even if they did a poll every day of the week they would be different. The only poll that matters is the General election.

Worryingly though, labour ahve been on the up for a while, and FG have been going down slowly for a while . . .nt that I like FG, they'd be fine if it wasn't for Kenny.

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 10-06-2010 11:07PM

Horse_box wrote: »

If Fine gael got a decent leader they would run away with an election. Enda is holding them back big time

Well Richard Bruton is their nest man but they need to leave him there to look after finance which would be right up his alley.
Thing is, Keny seems to have sorted out FG whcih was in a bit of a mess, and they seem to have great faith in him as an administrator. Which might even make him a good taoiseach.
But it wont satisfy peoples modern 'X Factor' expectations

thetonynator · 10-06-2010 11:08PM

Horse_box wrote: »

If Fine gael got a decent leader they would run away with an election. Enda is holding them back big time

24% satisfaction for the leader of the main opposition party is ridiculously low, especially when FF are in so much trouble.

starbelgrade · 10-06-2010 11:18PM

Labour are & have been a very decent party.

They were the first party to call for changes to legislation on divorce, contraception, women's reproductive rights and gay rights.

They established the Combat Poverty Agency, introduced the Equality Legislation which for the first time outlawed discrimination against people with disabilities, gays and lesbians, Travellers, ethnic minorities and other minorities.

They introduced the National Anti-Poverty Strategy, now an EU wide policy.

Labour introduced the first legislation to cap spending at elections, control political donations, and require politicians to reveal their interests.

Uniquely among the larger parties, no Labour politician has ever been charged with corruption.

I'd prefer them by far to FF or FG, who are just two sides of the same coin.

rovert · 10-06-2010 11:20PM

starbelgrade wrote: »

Labour are & have been a very decent party.

They were the first party to call for changes to legislation on divorce, contraception, women's reproductive rights and gay rights.

They established the Combat Poverty Agency, introduced the Equality Legislation which for the first time outlawed discrimination against people with disabilities, gays and lesbians, Travellers, ethnic minorities and other minorities.

They introduced the National Anti-Poverty Strategy, now an EU wide policy.

Labour introduced the first legislation to cap spending at elections, control political donations, and require politicians to reveal their interests.

Uniquely among the larger parties, no Labour politician has ever been charged with corruption.

I'd prefer them by far to FF or FG, who are just two sides of the same coin.

Enough with the canvasing

It is tyre slashing time, they can send me to college I dont care.

johngalway · 10-06-2010 11:23PM

starbelgrade wrote: »

Labour are & have been a very decent party.

They were the first party to call for changes to legislation on divorce, contraception, women's reproductive rights and gay rights.

They established the Combat Poverty Agency, introduced the Equality Legislation which for the first time outlawed discrimination against people with disabilities, gays and lesbians, Travellers, ethnic minorities and other minorities.

They introduced the National Anti-Poverty Strategy, now an EU wide policy.

Labour introduced the first legislation to cap spending at elections, control political donations, and require politicians to reveal their interests.

Uniquely among the larger parties, no Labour politician has ever been charged with corruption.

I'd prefer them by far to FF or FG, who are just two sides of the same coin.

That's all dandy. We know from that they know how to spend money and create bureaucracy. Now, how do they intend making us all money, if you're not a Government employee that is.

easyeason3 · 10-06-2010 11:24PM

starbelgrade wrote: »

Labour are & have been a very decent party.

They were the first party to call for changes to legislation on divorce, contraception, women's reproductive rights and gay rights.

They established the Combat Poverty Agency, introduced the Equality Legislation which for the first time outlawed discrimination against people with disabilities, gays and lesbians, Travellers, ethnic minorities and other minorities.

They introduced the National Anti-Poverty Strategy, now an EU wide policy.

Labour introduced the first legislation to cap spending at elections, control political donations, and require politicians to reveal their interests.

Uniquely among the larger parties, no Labour politician has ever been charged with corruption.

I'd prefer them by far to FF or FG, who are just two sides of the same coin.

Yet.
I'm sure many people entered into politics & into a political party thinking they would change the world with their views.
In my opinion a political party is only as strong as it's followers, which means power.

starbelgrade · 10-06-2010 11:28PM

johngalway wrote: »

That's all dandy. We know from that they know how to spend money and create bureaucracy. Now, how do they intend making us all money, if you're not a Government employee that is.

Well, the last time Labour were in government - albeit a rainbow government - there was economic growth in the country of a level never seen before, not to mention the huge social reform that went in hand with it.

johngalway · 10-06-2010 11:35PM

Things are a bit different now. One of the problems with Ireland is the amount of bad unenforced, or unenforceable legislation we already have. The BIG problem we need to address is reforming and fixing the various systems already in place before new bad unenforceable nonsense is spewed out (by anyone).

Oh, and fix the economy, almost missed that one. Something that's not likely to be done by people afraid to give the Beards a bit of stick.

OPENROAD · 10-06-2010 11:45PM

starbelgrade wrote: »

Labour are & have been a very decent party.

.

Can you remind me of their policies just prior to the last election, i.e where they pushing for cuts or increase in spending??

DubMedic · 10-06-2010 11:46PM

Labour most popular? hahahahahaha.

easyeason3 · 10-06-2010 11:47PM

johngalway wrote: »

Things are a bit different now. One of the problems with Ireland is the amount of bad unenforced, or unenforceable legislation we already have. The BIG problem we need to address is reforming and fixing the various systems already in place before new bad unenforceable nonsense is spewed out (by anyone).

Oh, and fix the economy, almost missed that one. Something that's not likely to be done by people afraid to give the Beards a bit of stick.

Ah sure look, it will be grand

thebaz · 10-06-2010 11:52PM

did Labour **** up the country ?? - i thought it was Aherne and Cowen and their mates in Anglo and the Irish Nationwide and whoever else was in those Galway race tents - even now we're still chucking the odd billion here and there to these basket cases

ps nice one Eamonn G.

Labour the most popular

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