What does Panda do with recyclables?

jacaranda wrote: »

Companies who landfill generally do have the word "RECYCLE" emblazoned on the side of their trucks.

You mean waste management companies that are engaged in recovering recyclabes also landfill some of their waste? Shocking.

jacaranda wrote: »

If you are unable to read posts here without, apparently, thinking the poster must be suggesting something other than that which he states, then I really can't help you.

If you are unable to engage in a discussion, then please refrain from posting. Take a few days to brush up on the content of the charter, with a particular emphasis on this point:

This is not a blog – if you’re not prepared to discuss the content of your posts, which will inevitably involve your opinions being challenged, then please do not post.

Irrelevant posts deleted.

jacaranda wrote: »

Your idea of a discussion, in this context, seems to be defined as misreading what I have said or at least not accepting what I have said, and then twisting it to try to get me to say something else.

I asked you to clarify a statement you made - that is not an unreasonable request for any poster to make. Repeating said statement over and over does not constitute clarification. Stubbornly refusing to elaborate on a point you have made does not constitute discussion. If you think I'm misrepresenting what you have said, then explain how I have misrepresented you.

jacaranda wrote: »

Then you delete your posts (curiously claiming that your posts are irrelevant), and waving your big mod stick ban me because i have the temerity to not agree or play your game of twisting what I have said.

You have already been warned about discussing moderation in-thread. If you continue to do so, you will receive an extended ban from the forum.

Now, back on-topic please.

I think waste disposal companies should be required to publish details of where the waste goes and in what proportions. You should probably get on to your own company for an answer. I have to agree with the earlier poster who said that the EPA's national waste disposal figures are undoubtedly construed to make the picture look a lot greener than it actually is.

PanchoVilla wrote: »

That's pretty funny. I quote an article where the owner/managing director states quite specifically that they ship 100 containers to Asia on a weekly basis and you still try to deny they send their rubbish over to Asia.

Are you sure that’s what Mr. Waters said? Let’s have another look:

“... it makes economic sense to recycle as much as possible of what we collect. Most of this is then exported.”

So the collected materials are recycled, then exported. Nowhere in that article does it state that domestic waste, intended for recycling, is being put straight on a ship to Asia.

PanchoVilla wrote: »

Let me explain how the recycling business works. Manufacturers of recycled goods or traders of raw materials pay collectors like Panda for the materials they collect, so companies like Panda are actually getting paid from both sides. We pay them to collect our rubbish and then they are paid to deliver it to a manufacturer/trader. Panda sends their collected materials over to Asia where people are employed to sort the material. These people typically work for less than $2 a day, which is how all these companies are able to make a profit. It's essentially slave labor, although actual slaves are usually provided with food, clothes, and shelter by their owner.

Let me explain how this forum works – statements need to be backed up by evidence. You’re making some pretty serious allegations regarding Panda’s business practices – do you have absolutely anything at all to back them up? I’m guessing you don’t. Furthermore, the business model you outline above makes absolutely no sense – manufacturers in Asia pay European waste management firms to transport rubbish half-way around the world, then pay locals to sort the rubbish, then pay for the sorted rubbish to be recycled... those are some pretty substantial overheads, no? That’s before we even consider the fact that India, for example, is already swimming in its own waste.