Obama Begins Preperation for War with Iran

BTW there is one in Afghanistan too. the other one they need. The Tibet one. The crown of this world, and I will not go into that here. Sorry ha ha never will give the Illuminati the hope in hell to get some insights onto this. There are many secrets in Tibet. it's also where jesus went

But I will say this much, they need the total grid of these energy portals to do whatever it is they are after. They are after god and all in this reality.

Oh its just a very deluded battle we are in.:(

RGDATA! wrote: »

assuming that everything you say is true, what can the average joe, who has been completely blind to this until now, do to wake up and make a difference/save himself?

is there any hope for him if he doesn't have a spontaneous awakening which changes his outlook?

how likely is he to research his way to enlightenment by degrees if time is short?

what kind of precautions should he be taking now - should he just be out to learn as much truth in the short time left or should he also be building a bunker and storing food, or is that ultimately pointless. what is the path to or chance of salvation?

Oh man that is a great question and its a very valid one. Its one I have been always wondering about too. I will have to think about this one and get my full answer to this one, because what you said exactly why I feel passonate that the average joe deserves to know the truth and be all the truth he "really is"

But on a short note. We are more powerful than you would ever let yourself realise. Even the average joe, will have the power too. It's about letting go EVERYTHING you ever believed about yourself NOW, and start over again. We have been deceived into thinking they are more powerful than us.. They are in a physical sense. But not in a spiritual or god sense. We are also outnumbering them. We are waking up at an exponential rate. We are making our gains.

Many beings came back to help save the earth and help the rest of us get us out of this karmic entrappement that the parasites have held us in. In many cases we have allowed this to happen ourselves.

But this question is not for me to only answer. People here from all walks and backgrounds to answer.

I'm a human being, I consider myself very aware of the multi faceted sides to this world. I have spent many years fighting and illuminating myself. There are millions of people illuminating themselves working against the system on a frequency level. The actual work is not been done by icke or Wilcock. The illuminati keep them alive and allow them to sell their books. Because these guys are feeding their egos (whether they like to admit that or not I don't care)

But nobody out there right now is actually stopping this from happening. i Mean knowing the truth is one thing, but is anyone actually stopping the NWO or deflecting it?

I don't think you could answer your question in one go but I hope this has some grounds to what I'm pointing at.

Terrlock wrote: »

I for one would like to get to the real truth, I don't believe anything that the Leaders of goverments say.

Everything is obviously a lie.

Thing is, how do you stand up to it all?

speak out, and I'm not trying to be blunt about it. And if you can keep your cool, channel well and hold your own in a face of many you will be ok.

Get aggressive or expose yourself to easily your gone.

If you pay attention to what goes on, look at how many people are taken out already. For example Diana. Learn from the best and do your best. Don't worry what others think. And keep going till you drop dead. Your have an afterlife. We have just been trapped in this hell thinking we don't and believing there is only a heavan to go to beyond in the dreams.

It's really learning to stand up to the truth, in you by you and only you. The wrold will go against you when you take that responsibility.


The Four things the illuminati don't want you to use are.
The gut.
The heart
The voice
The mind

And most of all the crown (which is god)

The iluminati keeps us in survival, fear, lust, need,and ! I want mode" Thats how they make us weak. It's really that simple and people find it so hard to believe. it's because of the upbringing through society we know no different.

One example of one person finally taking a stand for herself. Was Princess Diana in our time. The first time she really shook the place was the Panarama interview. Do you remember that one. She knew her life was on the line, when she spoke on that interview. That interview had to be cut a few times because thigns were taken out and she cried a few times. She was in the hell and she knew what was going on this world for a very long time. She had to stand up for herself in what she knew. That's it' If we come here afraid to speak out or live, whats the point in being here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDnKTr5i8d4&playnext_from=TL&videos=lCQwqC4uBr4&feature=sub

Yekaks this one is the best one that relates to your question. This will help you understand what is going on with the stargates. Seems pretty coincidental that I got this, because I just found it on youtube. it's better than the other one I found.

Horse_Box wrote:

So is she just making all this up in your opinion?

IMHO, yes, that's exactly what she's doing, no doubt with the help of others.
It is highly distractive.

What she does claim is very interesting, I'l give her that

People have always sought a meaning to life..how is a belief in UFO and aliens any different than believing in the teachings of the bible, the koran or the kaballah..?

It's all the same to me, just something to cling on to when you're scared of death, when nothing makes any sense you turn to the belief in a higher power.

Why would 2012 be anymore significant than 212? nothing happened then and I honestly don't see any justification for a big event in 2012 except fear being spread by these so-called spiritualists...

no doubt, business is very good at the moment, selling all those dvd's, books and seminars...

but, whatever keeps people happy.

northwest100 wrote: »

IMHO, yes, that's exactly what she's doing, no doubt with the help of others.
It is highly distractive.



People have always sought a meaning to life..how is a belief in UFO and aliens any different than believing in the teachings of the bible, the koran or the kaballah..?

It's all the same to me, just something to cling on to when you're scared of death, when nothing makes any sense you turn to the belief in a higher power.

Why would 2012 be anymore significant than 212? nothing happened then and I honestly don't see any justification for a big event in 2012 except fear being spread by these so-called spiritualists...

no doubt, business is very good at the moment, selling all those dvd's, books and seminars...

but, whatever keeps people happy.

You didnt watch it all.... I can tell. But it's just another sign of your been close minded. Shoot everything down, to satisfy "your only belief system"

Which is a trap everyone falls into. She clearly goes into great depth step by step of what's going on, and it's common sense. Much more real than bloody geopoopolitics. I just couldn't waste more time on the crap humanity as been fed with the belief system your piping with "what the MSM are blabbing in the news everyday"

Now you can go and believe all that. But It's just ironic that your shooting her down for no reason or validity. You just don't understand the information she has shown.

You really haven't understood this clip, because if you did, you wouldn't be asking me these questions. So please watch it all and stop wasting my time "with your I know it all so ha". Because I know you didn't watch it. It's 2hours long, and I still haven't finished it lol... So its very amusing to see you carrying on this way.

northwest100 wrote: »

No, I didn't watch it all..it's 157 minutes long, 30 minutes was enough.
Well, i watched about 60-65 minutes and she made no sense to me i'm afraid.
I suppose i'm not as enlightened on the future as you are.

I'm not closed minded, mysterious.
I am a very cynical human being who does not believe everything i'm told.

You expect me to believe what she says is true? why?

I was told at catholic school to believe in the teachings of the bible and Jesus Christ also, when now I realise none of it is, or ever was relevant to the real world we live in.

Tell me, what is the difference between Ms Deane and her information compared with the bible, koran or kaballah teachings?

Fundamentalist christians believe Jesus Christ is going to fall from the sky and redeem us all in 2012.



Yes, great depth of her own creation which I believe she and some others spent many years working on.

The bible was also very detailed, but we know it's total rubbish also.



It's distracting, mysterious, nothing less.

Any discussion on the motives for an attack on Iran will be attributed to some astrological, mythological and spiritual beliefs, inevitably resulting in all credible theories dismissed entirely.

If David Icke is discussing the CFR or Trilateral commission and their desire to assert more centralized control over nations, Mr Icke's comments on "blood drinking lizards" does not help highlight the seriousness of globalisation.

If you want to believe the US are planning to invade Iran for a stargate, that's fine, but I don't.

You have very little facts, nothing to counter claim, it's like your just having a bitchfest.


Your not in this movement long enough judging by your post and behaviour. Your writing her off because you spat immature comments throughout your previous posts. You asked questions, that were clearly discussed in the interview. (proves you didn't watch it all) You made a stupid comment on 2012 to 2212 also. If she clearly gives in depth knoweldge of what's happening now, its hardly distracting you from what you can do in this moment.

Your making it a distraction yourself because you can't handle anything outside your belief pattens.

The bible is NOT TOTAL RUBBISH. She even disucsssed this TOO in her interview. I even agree with what she said. The orginal bible boks were mostly taken out or distorted. I think from my memeory if it serves me right was that there was 187 books taken out of the bible. Over the years it became more distorted and when under the hands of King game the first and Queen Elizabeth the first they changed more to suit their own agenda. There is some truth even in the imposter bible. Because any deciever knows tehy need some truth to get you to fall for the lie.

You are not able to see it for what it is, because your write everything off like YOU KNOW IT ALL. It's a trap your falling into no anyone else. It's a distraction YOUR falling into no one else. It's your frustration, not anyone elses. It's you who is falling for the lie not me.

I can see through the bull****, and She too even explained this in the video

Your showing yourself up really painfully now, with the errors of your judgment and flippancy.

Mahatma Coat wrote:

I cant see where people get t
Cheap oil and Gas concept from

Why? Because people are paying more at the filling station?

Is it impossible the increase might be attributed partly to OPEC nations limiting its production in the last 12 months?

Iran and Iraq have some of the largest reserves of oil and gas in the world.

Oil reserves



Gas reserves



look at where the US/UK have setup bases and where gas/oil pipelines are now proposed.

if anything the objective of the War was to drive teh price of Oil through the roof, which they did very effectivley.

Well, again..there are other factors responsible for driving up the price.

and hey, it COULD be all about a StarGate, we just dont know.

Considering that A'Shyana Deane and her husband operate a UFO cult, i seriously doubt anything they say has any merit.

mysterious, i don't know in what post I personally insulted Ms Deane.
if that is a friend of yours, i'm sorry.

i'm very cynical of any religious organizations trying to tell me wars are being fought over ancient alien artifacts we have no evidence to prove exist.

well, i would not consider Ms Deane's personal beliefs as evidence these so-called 'stargate' devices exist.

If you take the time to read the document by Brzezinski and Gates, you will notice that an invasion of Iran is unlikely until after 2012.

Bonkey nobody is arguing with you your violating the charter by using it against people. Whichever reason you feel "people are arguing with you". you need to sort yourself out, because people don't have the interest or time to argue with you Bonkey. You made a false claim that I'm personally attacking someone (which i'm not) People are allowed to stand up to themselves. Just because people stand up to themselves does not mean they are arguing with you or breaking the charter.

If you use the "charter" like in this way, your creating a bullying vicim enviormentment we must grovel to you even if you abuse the charter.

Remember your not in authority over us, just here to moderate the forum. I find what your doing very amusing Bonkey and not surprising

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If you publically use the charter against us here, isn't there a mod to infract you for personally attacking us with the charter. Because I'm bewildered by your claims/ Are you mad with us?