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Odd Origins of Words / Odd Words

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭neil_hosey


    Boycott..

    During the irish land war, Charles Boycott was an absentee landlord somewhere in the whesht of ireland.

    The tenants of his lands ask for lower rent, he said no, and evicted them!! So they ignored the fúcker and made everyone in the vacinity to ignore him, from shops/traders/postmen/etc...

    hence the meaning nowadays..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 324 ✭✭Joe Cool


    Heard that the word 'chunder' meaning to puke came from sailors throwing up from the Crow's Nest, a shortened version of 'watch under!'.

    Also the term 'cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey' referred to freezing temperatures causing the brass rings, which held the cannonballs, to contract and shatter causing the aforementioned cannonball to fall to the floor.

    Citation needed :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 300 ✭✭Gaunty


    The word Bedlam comes from the famous psychiatric hospital of the middle ages in London called Bethlem. It used to be a tourist attraction at one stage for people to go around the hospital unsupervised and talk to the patients and marvel at their behaviour. The hospital was so crazy that the word bedlam found its way into popular language. Hence the phrase 'It's bedlam out there'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Whiskey is an anglicisation of uisce. Spirits used to be called uisce beatha (water of life) in Ireland.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    A big fight or riot used to be known as a donnybrook, from the annual Dublin fair of that name where a ruckus would likely kick off.

    Shampoo and bungalow and orange are all Indian words brought in from the british empire days. Assassin is also from india as a hindu(afair) cult was purported to smoke weed, hashish before going on murderous rampages.

    Roman soldiers were often paid in salt, hence the modern word salary latin for salt sal.

    "Grammar" has an interesting side. The original comes from the greek, based on the word "draw" It became "grammatica" in latin. Not that interesting but... The word "glamour" which in its original (Scots) context meant to put a spell on someone and magic in general, may well have come from mishearing the word grammar. Written language was felt to hold a special power. So let it be written, so let it be done kinda thing.

    Lunatic comes from luna the word for the moon. As the idea of the moon affecting peoples minds was common in the past. Hysterical comes from the greek word for womb(hysterectomy etc) and used to only be used in the context of women. It was thought female madness originated in the womb. Ancient doctors were of the opinion that unwed women, especially ones who were childless would go mad as the humours would build up in the womb and affect their minds. Even today some people working with animals think dogs, horses etc should have some offspring before they are spayed.

    Plumber comes from the latin word for lead, which was what pipes were made from back in the day. Another example is the weighted(lead) plumb line used by builders to check verticals.

    Alcohol is an arabic muslim word ironically enough. Algebra is too, but not ironically at all as the feckers were bloody brilliant at the old counting and such:) Oh yea and coffee.

    Denim comes from the name of a french town that made canvas cloth. Nemes I think? so De Neme from Neme = Denim.

    Dandelion plant comes from dent de leon, teeth of lion. Look at the serrated leaves.

    Mistress actually means wife or bride funny enough. Husband originally meant man with house. Nada to do with marriage per se.

    An Irish/celtic one. When I was learning Irish the word for car was carr. They gussied it up to gluastain(sp?)(fast thing pretty much, like Luas). Presumably because they wanted to distance it from english. Thing is its not an english word, its an ancient celtic/irish word for any wheeled vehicle. Chariot, cart. Indeed chariot comes from the latin Carrus and in latin a war chariot was called a car. a further aside... :o the romans drove on the correct left hand side of the road like us(bloody french screwed that one :D)

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭El_Dangeroso


    San Diego, from the Spanish for 'A whale's vagina'.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    San Diego, from the Spanish for 'A whale's vagina'.
    welll......... :D though that leads to the pejorative term for people of latin origin, "Dago". Thought to come from captured spanish soldiers loudly repeating prayers to San Diego/Saint Diego/Saint Didicus.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭OhThePenguin


    Spoonerism: when you accidentally mix up the sounds or syllables of words
    Word comes from Rev. Spooner who used to constantly do this.

    Some examples are:
    A blushing crow (crushing blow)
    A well-boiled icicle (well-oiled bicycle)

    I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    Quintessential, from the Greeks and they're belief in the fifth element.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_(classical_element)

    Irrational dreives from numbers that can't be broken down to fractions, again I think it was the Greeks and their dealings with maths.
    Disaster means bad star, again with the Greeks and astrology.
    Everyone should read soem Carl Sagan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 977 ✭✭✭Abrasax


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Assassin is also from india as a hindu(afair) cult was purported to smoke weed, hashish before going on murderous rampages.

    The Hashshashin were killers for the Persian warlord, Hassan-i-Shabbah.
    Apparently he used to get them stoned on smoke and opium and, when they were unconscious, transport them to a luscious garden somewhere, where some delectable ladies would make sweet love to them. Then they'd be drugged unconscious again, brought back to where they were and Hassan would tell them they'd just been to paradise and this was the reward that awaited him if they did his bidding, thus ensuring their loyalty.
    Thus, Hassan-i-Shabbah lent his name to both assassins and hashish.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,152 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    So now you go up to see a teller at the counter in the bench:confused:

    (no wonder they failed)

    Not only that, but in order to account for your account the teller needs to count at the counter in the bench and you have to recount both your lodgements and your money in order to counter his account!!!! (thankfully he's probably sitting on a chair instead of being on a bench behind the counter in a bench!)

    I just hope his wages aren't benchmarked!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,152 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Lunatic comes from luna the word for the moon............It was thought female madness originated in the womb

    Or is it related to the fact that a month is based on the moon's "cycle", and that whole PMS malarkey ? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    Swash buckling.

    Back when the phrase originated, a common weapon combo would be a sword used in conjunction with a small, dinner plate sized shield called a buckle (used more to parry attacks than to block or absorb). To 'swash' is to make noise, boast and act in an arrogant fashion.Young men would walk about town with their sword and buckle rattling by their side. Hence the phrase (the common phrase "Buckle your swash" is incorrect, you would actually swash your buckle)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭Jev/N


    m@cc@ wrote: »
    BS, I'm afraid.

    I thought it was a perfectly cromulent word..

    Just goes to show you can't trust what is asked at a table quiz! :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭Pretty_Pistol


    The American term "So long" (goodbye) comes from when Irish immigrants would say slán.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    Dyslexia
    Abbreviate

    Somebody must have been takin' the piss.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    'Me farmers is killing me'

    Olde English referring to Farmer Giles=Piles- rhyming slang

    Also Chalfonts as in 'Chalfont St. Giles'

    Can also be referred to as bum grapes, as in a bunch of grape like protrusions hanging from one's hole.

    Also arse nuts, hole plums, spaggots or bum jewelery.

    Correct term is hemorrhoids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    "Cabal" from the five ministers most powerful under Charles II (Clifford, Arlington, Buckingham, Ashley and Lauderdale).

    Incidentally, there is no boards.ie cabal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭Din Taylor


    Acronyms weren't in use until the twentieth century. An acronym explanation for a word in use before then is generally bollox.

    For example Fornication Under Consent of the King. It actually comes from the Latin fuccant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    Din Taylor wrote: »
    Acronyms weren't in use until the twentieth century. An acronym explanation for a word in use before then is generally bollox.

    For example Fornication Under Consent of the King. It actually comes from the Latin fuccant.

    Agreed. Another one is Golf (Gentlemen Only, Ladies Forbidden)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭me_right_one


    Uncle SAM - From letters sent to America from Ireland, with Stait Aontaithe Mherica shortened to S.A.M.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    Hysteria - Originally defined as "a neurotic condition peculiar to women and thought to be caused by a dysfunction of the uterus" ("Hysterical").


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭me_right_one


    stovelid wrote: »
    I always liked the story (myth?) that the etymology of the word Hooligan was a notoriously lawless Irish family, the Houlihans, in London. Probably not true.

    Well given the way the pronounce Ken Dougherty as DOCKerty......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    I'd love to know if anyone has any idea of the etymology of mala/marla; the kid's modelling clay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    Hoodlum is a corruption of Noodlum - "Muldoon" backwards, referring to Irish-American gangsters.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭me_right_one


    kylith wrote: »
    I'd love to know if anyone has any idea of the etymology of mala/marla; the kid's modelling clay.

    Maybe the boardsie Morlar would know;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    Uncle SAM - From letters sent to America from Ireland, with Stait Aontaithe Mherica shortened to S.A.M.

    Irish people can be full of ourselves when we want.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncle_sam


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    kylith wrote: »
    I'd love to know if anyone has any idea of the etymology of mala/marla; the kid's modelling clay.

    Not what you are looking for, but related, from urban dictionary;

    Mala head (irish slang)

    A person whos head looks like a 3 year old made it from play-dough. Its large and roughly shapen. looks like it was sculpted on the shape of a gimpy rock. not very plesent to look at at all.

    mála also irish for bag, term can also be used to display the fact that they're face should have a bag over it because of the fact its just so fugly
    '' yo man check tha' fool out, hes gota biggest mawla head ive eva seen dog''

    ''that girl has a mala head'': stating she has a fine ass body but a ugly face (irish slang version of butterface)

    mala head (irish slang) for butterface


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    We've already had "sinister" which equated to the lefties, so on to "dexterous/dexterity" which of course means fine control etc. Which comes from dexter the latin for right. Even if you're ambidextrous, the righties still win.

    To give or the word "gift" means a dowry or price for a wife. Both have similar meanings, so to say "I gave a gift" is like a doubling of it.

    "Ketchup" comes from a Chinese word for a sauce.

    Clock comes from the middle latin for bell. Welll actually it doesnt. In Irish bell = cloch and we added so many words and grammar to middle latin. Many think this irish word for bell spread with our monks who brought much of the learning back to europe after Rome fell. The word in latin for bell is very different(hyponym). So when you look at the clock on the wall, or say its X o'clock(X of the clock) think on the various mad micks who brought much of the light back to europe where it had been lost. Oh and BTW disregard some explanations that clock is an olde english/saxon word. It shows up in Irish literature many centuries before it shows up in english texts.

    Anyhoo, the monks required good timing to keep track of prayer duties throughout the day. So were always open to new tech when it came out. They were also the keepers of knowledge and science at the time. First they muddled through with sun dials. Useful in southern europe, but as much use as a chocolate teapot in the north. Water clocks were the next big leap forward, but they could freeze in the winter. Interestingly the very first reference to a clock as a timekeeper comes from the annals of a church in germany(started by a mick btw :D) where a fire broke out. They report the monks ran to the clock to fight the fire. A water clock. No use throwing pendulums at a fire I suppose :D

    Thinking more on my previous example of the term "Dago" as an insulting term for latins, another word, "Wop" comes from "Guapo" in spanish(same in italian IIRC) which actually means cool/cute/good looking. The "Irish are ugly" types should find that somewhat ironic. :D

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    The Conservative Party or Tory party, from the Irish word toruighe which means robber/plunderer. Unsurprisingly it was originally a derogative nickname.


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