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Bicycles in apartments

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭chakattack


    I really hate management companies and the busy body, power hungry, nosy neighbour types they attract!

    Glad I don't live in an apartment. Washing your bike in the bath.....hassle!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,947 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    I never had to wash my bike in the bath -- that's what the parking space that came with the apartment was for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 Thinfin


    So I have been laid low with a bad flu and laryngitis for the last few days and have not been out on the bike, have not had a chat with the landlady and have not seen the gestapo upstairs...however my plan is to call landlady and get her take on it, hopefully get her on side, and proceed as usual - i.e. careful carrying the bike in and out and keep the bike with me. There is no way I would keep it outside the apt but hopefully it will not come to having to move. Many thanks again for your sage and funny words of advice :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭littleredspot


    I commiserate with anyone with this problem but it is one of the disadvantages of apartment living and you really should have read the house rules before purchasing/renting.
    I've seen the other side of the coin as its been my job to fix up halls, stairs and lifts that have been destroyed by people bringing bikes in. It's always easy to follow the trail to the culprits door. I'd have to say that if I lived in a block that this was happening in I'd not be to happy. Why should 1 person be allowed to wreck the communal areas?
    In case you think I'm being one sided, I've had my bike robbed from the carpark of the apartment I lived in, and was well p~~~ed off. I now own my own house and despite my best efforts there's chunks taken out of door frames and tyre marks on walls and doors from me bringing my bike in.

    On a lighter note, in one place I worked a guy insisted on his right to bring a scooter ( and not the kids type) up in the lift to be parked in the hall outside his door! For the same reason as everyone here, he'd had one stolen outside.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    Why should 1 person be allowed to wreck the communal areas?

    I agree with you to a degree. But in order to make it feasible there must be safe, secure, covered bike parking provided. If the community do not want bikes in the building, they should provide a suitable alternative. If they fail to do this they are just being self serving. Cycling is a legitimate form of transport/lifestyle/sport & cyclists should be provided for. In the same way cars & pedestrians are provided for.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭littleredspot


    Totally agree. In my case I knew the security guard so we were able to check the security videos, they clearly showed the fat orange guy from the Tango ad robbing it. Turns out most security cameras are rubbish.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    I commiserate with anyone with this problem but it is one of the disadvantages of apartment living and you really should have read the house rules before purchasing/renting.

    The rule is in place pretty much everywhere, and rightly ignored on a widespread scale.
    I've seen the other side of the coin as its been my job to fix up halls, stairs and lifts that have been destroyed by people bringing bikes in. It's always easy to follow the trail to the culprits door. I'd have to say that if I lived in a block that this was happening in I'd not be to happy. Why should 1 person be allowed to wreck the communal areas?

    Just as with all other case of damage to communal areas, if the person doing the damage can be tracked as easy as you say, then they and they only should be made responsible.

    Rules should not be made which affect the many because of the careless few.
    I now own my own house and despite my best efforts there's chunks taken out of door frames and tyre marks on walls and doors from me bringing my bike in.

    Chunks taken out door frame sounds like carelessness tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,947 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    It would be better if a sentiment such as this:

    "The spirit of the law is not to damage, soil or obstruct the common areas. Therefore, I carry, not wheel, my bike and I do not hit off anything on the way to my apartment."

    were not construed, as it has been several times now, as this:

    "I wish to gradually damage the common areas because I think I'm more important than everyone else."

    The two statements are different.

    Also, parking a moped outside your apartment is different from carrying a bike in. I don't regard widespread ignoring of the rule about bringing bikes into apartments as leading to a Vespa parked outside every apartment door.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,477 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    It's not fair, but not untypically unfair. The rule is from the same school of thought as speed bumps and speed cameras for cars. You punish everybody to constrain the behaviour of the irresponsible.

    If there is no speeding there can be no speeding-related accidents.

    If there are no bikes, there can be no bike damage.

    Personally I'd be more worried about taking a chunk out of my bike than a chunk out of the wall. You can't polyfill a derailleur.

    I'm surprised that such things are enforced at a time when we have 300k empty properties. What about market forces?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭littleredspot


    Don't get me wrong, I think you should keep an expensive clean bike in your apartment.
    All I'm saying is that the reason the rule is there is because lots of people don't care about the common areas and wreck them carrying in bikes and this affects lots of people who don't break their house rules.
    There's lots of rules in apartments that deserve to be broken, but who gets to decide which ones? I hate blanket rules and hopefully the OP's landlord feels the same.
    The simple and obvious solution is live in a house (If you do like your door frames though, it helps not to have 2 kids on your bike while trying to take a tight 90' turn through the front door ;))


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Civilian_Target


    How does one take chunks out of the wall with the bike? I live on the 3rd floor of an apartment building that forbids bikes. I carry it in, every so often the back wheel glances a wall and leaves a trace of mud, but beyond that...

    I can see why they forbid you from carrying a bike if you use it to take chunks out of doors!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭littleredspot


    I can see why they forbid you from carrying a bike if you use it to take chunks out of doors!
    :)

    (Pedal height) "nicks" out of door frames we'll call it then.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    The simple and obvious solution is live in a house (If you do like your door frames though, it helps not to have 2 kids on your bike while trying to take a tight 90' turn through the front door ;))

    It's national and local government policy (those guys that make laws, give planning permission etc) to get more people cycling, it would be shear madness for this to exclude apartments.

    On a personal level, it would shear madness to not be able to live in apartments just because some people are prone to damaging hall ways and doors.

    Sounds like the simple solution is to have a bit more care and respect for what ever kind of housing you are living in. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    monument wrote: »
    It's national and local government policy (those guys that make laws, give planning permission etc) to get more people cycling, it would be shear madness for this to exclude apartments.

    On a personal level, it would shear madness to not be able to live in apartments just because some people are prone to damaging hall ways and doors.

    Sounds like the simple solution is to have a bit more care and respect for what ever kind of housing you are living in. :)

    agreed but there are careless clumbsy muppets out there, and the plain lazy couldn't care less types ["sure they'll take it off my deposit anyway!" :rolleyes:]

    like all rules they punish those who are inconsiderate/dumb/lazy and the rest of us have to deal..and be punished :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭cdaly_


    Lumen wrote: »
    I'm surprised that such things are enforced at a time when we have 300k empty properties. What about market forces?

    My guess is that typically the type of people you find on Management Committees will be owner/occupiers who don't need to worry about where the next tenant is coming from. The landlords of rented apartments (who are most affected by the current state of the market) prolly don't mind...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,322 ✭✭✭Merch


    How does one take chunks out of the wall with the bike? I live on the 3rd floor of an apartment building that forbids bikes. I carry it in, every so often the back wheel glances a wall and leaves a trace of mud, but beyond that...

    I can see why they forbid you from carrying a bike if you use it to take chunks out of doors!

    I presume he means pedals taking lumps outta stuff, as a former cyclist it happens eventually no matter how careful you are. While it may seem pedantic, do you clean that mud off or does someone else? and when it needs to be painted, I guess they probably have to paint a whole wall while they're at it as labour will be paid for, I presume that also comes out of the sinking fund which someone pays for.

    Better if adequate facilities are in place that allow people to keep their bikes secure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,947 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    Merch wrote: »
    I presume he means pedals taking lumps outta stuff, as a former cyclist it happens eventually no matter how careful you are.

    I never knocked a lump out of anything in five years of carrying my bike to the apartment.
    Merch wrote: »
    While it may seem pedantic, do you clean that mud off or does someone else? and when it needs to be painted, I guess they probably have to paint a whole wall while they're at it as labour will be paid for, I presume that also comes out of the sinking fund which someone pays for.

    All apartment complexes need repainting and other maintenance work done every few years, even if there isn't a single cyclist in the building. Hundreds of corridor transits every week mean wear and tear. People wheeling prams in and dragging luggage on wheels through do more damage than I ever did, but I didn't notice a rule telling them to cut it out. I rarely saw the track of a bicycle wheel in the common area on a rainy day, but I frequently saw the distinctive double-wheel track of a buggy.
    Merch wrote: »
    Better if adequate facilities are in place that allow people to keep their bikes secure.

    I've lived in two different apartment complexes and viewed many more. None of them had parking facilities that I'd leave an expensive bike in.

    Or indeed, even a cheap bike on which I was very reliant. If your primary mode of transport is your bike, you tend to customise it quite a bit. Which means it's often weeks of work to replace it when it's stolen, even if it isn't an expensive bike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 932 ✭✭✭DualFrontDiscs


    As a parent and a cyclist, I think management companies should ban small children from the interior of apartment blocks. They produce much more perfectly acceptable wear and tear. Along with reducing said wear and tear it would also produce a number of ancillary benefits, including (but not limited to):

    1. Provide a keen insight into said management's company's thinking on actually living in your own apartment.
    2. Provide a good basis for arguing parity of esteem between the kids and the bikes being in the house.
    3. Allow for dirty children to be kept outside until they hose themselves down.

    DFD.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,322 ✭✭✭Merch


    tomasrojo wrote: »
    I never knocked a lump out of anything in five years of carrying my bike to the apartment.



    All apartment complexes need repainting and other maintenance work done every few years, even if there isn't a single cyclist in the building. Hundreds of corridor transits every week mean wear and tear. People wheeling prams in and dragging luggage on wheels through do more damage than I ever did, but I didn't notice a rule telling them to cut it out. I rarely saw the track of a bicycle wheel in the common area on a rainy day, but I frequently saw the distinctive double-wheel track of a buggy.



    I've lived in two different apartment complexes and viewed many more. None of them had parking facilities that I'd leave an expensive bike in.

    Or indeed, even a cheap bike on which I was very reliant. If your primary mode of transport is your bike, you tend to customise it quite a bit. Which means it's often weeks of work to replace it when it's stolen, even if it isn't an expensive bike.

    I was saying I think apartments should have adequate facilities for people to lock up their bikes, ie some kind of personal storage that they can access easily if they need to do that frequently


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,477 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Merch wrote: »
    some kind of personal storage that they can access easily if they need to do that frequently

    Yes, it's called an apartment.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,322 ✭✭✭Merch


    well I meant (and I think you know) separate storage as I have seen on the continent, or maybe the floors just shouldn't be carpet, but then people would be complaining and sue if they slipped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭Civilian_Target


    Merch wrote: »
    I presume he means pedals taking lumps outta stuff, as a former cyclist it happens eventually no matter how careful you are. While it may seem pedantic, do you clean that mud off or does someone else? and when it needs to be painted, I guess they probably have to paint a whole wall while they're at it as labour will be paid for, I presume that also comes out of the sinking fund which someone pays for.

    Better if adequate facilities are in place that allow people to keep their bikes secure.

    I've never taken lumps out of stuff with the pedals. I'm generally holding the bike by the axis, with the pedals right beside me, so I don't even understand how that could happen.

    Yes, I brush the mud off the next time I'm going downstairs and after it has dried a bit.

    The complex does actually provide enough space for me to store the bike in the underground garage, but it's currently filled with junk instead :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭littleredspot


    I was going to post about how I don't seem to be clipping anything with my shiney new, smaller, lighter, road bike, as its much easier to manoeuvere than my heavy, child seat laden down, extra large hybrid, when the wire from my headphones got caught in the saddle and pulled it over and it took a chunk out of the wall!!!:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭carmel27


    I bought my own apt 2 yrs ago and am now considering purchasing a bike. We have nowhere to park bicycles outside, and in a coversation I had recently with a neighbour, I questioned whether or not it would be ok to leave it in the large common area. The response was basically a load of babble about insurance, health and safety blah blah blah, but none of it was actually factual information and all of it was based on the fact that they definitely wouldnt want me leaving it there. (In fact, Id imagine the maintanence company guy was probably contacted 2 mins later and advised that I was considering it.) Doesnt seem to concern them that another neighbour leaves a childs bicycle and a buggy there. So now I dont know what to do. If I bring it into my own apt, I'll be dragging it across carpet, which is obviously going to piss someone else off. I havent actually checked it out offically yet, but must do. Just wish Id held out a few months longer, and bought a house for what the apt cost back then!!! :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,477 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    carmel27 wrote: »
    If I bring it into my own apt, I'll be dragging it across carpet

    Carry it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭carmel27


    Lumen wrote: »
    Carry it.

    I'll try:eek:


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