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Tar.Aldarion · 24-05-2010 12:55AM

Moonbaby wrote: »

Ahh! I dont imagine there is any difference so.

I think the mindset is completely different. Scientists want to know, engineers want to do.
There is scientific content, but these things are only tools to be applied to shiney things that do something fun or useful or loud. :P
Things like teamwork, project management and other business skills are just as important.
The thing about mechanical engineering, is that you graduate with alot to learn. It can take years before you are up to speed with an established engineer. So companys are reluctant to spend the money on training you.
Any little bit of practically that might speed up the learning process, is an attractive asset to a future employer.

I don't think I have ever met an engineer who was attracted to academia at the outset.

That is what this is about! Your trying to steal her away!
Quick Tar explode something shiney to keep her in the cool kids camp!

What kind of physics do you study?

But I want to know everything dammit...it's a compulsion!...not saying that I don;t want to do everything to (heh heh)

/explodes sun

Tar.Aldarion · 24-05-2010 12:56AM

From my bebo blog, cough, years ago I posted that.

FASCINATION WITH GADGETS
To the engineer, all matter in the universe can be placed into one of two categories:
1. Things that need to be fixed
2. Things that will need to be fixed after you've had a few minutes to play with them.
Engineers like to solve problems. If there are no problems handily available, they will create their own problems. Normal people don't understand this concept; they believe that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Engineers believe that if it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet.
No engineer looks at a television remote control without wondering what it would take to turn it into a stun gun. No engineer can take a shower without wondering if some sort of Teflon coating would make showering unnecessary. To the engineer, the world is a toy box full of sub-optimized and feature-poor toys.
FASHION AND APPEARANCE
Clothes are the lowest priority for an engineer, assuming the basic thresholds for temperature and decency have been satisfied. If no appendages are freezing or sticking together, and if no genitalia or mammary glands are swinging around in plain view, then the objective of clothing has been met. Anything else is a waste.
LOVE OF "STAR TREK"
Engineers love all of the "Star Trek" television shows and movies. It's a small wonder, since the engineers on the starship Enterprise are portrayed as heroes, occasionally even having sex with aliens. This is much more glamorous than the real life of an engineer, which consists of hiding from the universe and having sex without the participation of other life forms.
DATING AND SOCIAL LIFE
Dating is never easy for engineers. A normal person will employ various indirect and duplicitous methods to create a false impression of attractiveness. Engineers are incapable of placing appearance above function.
Fortunately, engineers have an ace in the hole. They are widely recognized as superior marriage material: intelligent, dependable, employed, honest, and handy around the house. While it's true that many normal people would prefer not to date an engineer, most normal people harbor an intense desire to mate with them, thus producing engineer-like children who will have high-paying jobs long before losing their virginity.
Male engineers reach their peak of sexual attractiveness later than normal men, becoming irresistible erotic dynamos in their mid thirties to late forties. Just look at these examples of sexually irresistible men in technical professions:
? Bill Gates.
? MacGyver.
EGO
Ego-wise, two things are important to engineers:
? How smart they are.
? How many cool devices they own.
The fastest way to get an engineer to solve a problem is to declare that the problem is unsolvable. No engineer can walk away from an unsolvable problem until it's solved. No illness or distraction is sufficient to get the engineer off the case. These types of challenges quickly become personal -- a battle between the engineer and the laws of nature.
Engineers will go without food and hygiene for days to solve a problem. (Other times just because they forgot.) And when they succeed in solving the problem they will experience an ego rush that is better than sex--and I'm including the kind of sex where other people are involved.
Nothing is more threatening to the engineer than the suggestion that somebody has more technical skill. Normal people sometimes use that knowledge as a lever to extract more work from the engineer. When an engineer says that something can't be done (a code phrase that means it's not fun to do), some clever normal people have learned to glance at the engineer with a look of compassion and pity and say something along these lines: "I'll ask Bob to figure it out. He knows how to solve difficult technical problems."
At that point it is a good idea for the normal person to not stand between the engineer and the problem. The engineer will set upon the problem like a starved Chihuahua on a pork chop.
Top 20 of Engineering Terminology
1. A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT APPROACHES ARE BEING TRIED
We are still pissing in the wind.
2. EXTENSIVE REPORT IS BEING PREPARED ON A FRESH APPROACH TO THE PROBLEM
We just hired three kids fresh out of college.
3. CLOSE PROJECT COORDINATION
We know who to blame.
4. MAJOR TECHNOLOGICAL BREAKTHROUGH
It works OK, but looks very hi-tech.
5. CUSTOMER SATISFACTION IS DELIVERED ASSURED
We are so far behind schedule the customer is happy to get it delivered.
6. PRELIMINARY OPERATIONAL TESTS WERE INCONCLUSIVE
The darn thing blew up when we threw the switch.
7. TEST RESULTS WERE EXTREMELY GRATIFYING
We are so surprised that the stupid thing works.
8. THE ENTIRE CONCEPT WILL HAVE TO BE ABANDONED
The only person who understood the thing quit.
9. IT IS IN THE PROCESS
It is so wrapped up in red tape that the situation is about hopeless.
10. WE WILL LOOK INTO IT
Forget it! We have enough problems for now.
11. PLEASE NOTE AND INITIAL
Let's spread the responsibility for the screw up.
12. GIVE US THE BENEFIT OF YOUR THINKING
We'll listen to what you have to say as long as it doesn't interfere with what we've already done.
13. GIVE US YOUR INTERPRETATION
I can't wait to hear this bull!
14. SEE ME or LET'S DISCUSS
Come into my office, I'm lonely.
15. ALL NEW
Parts not interchangeable with the previous design.
16. RUGGED
Too damn heavy to lift!
17. LIGHTWEIGHT
Lighter than RUGGED.
18. YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT
One finally worked.
19. ENERGY SAVING
Achieved when the power switch is off.
20. LOW MAINTENANCE
Impossible to fix if broken.
The Top 10 Things Engineering School didn't teach
? There are at least 10 types of capacitors.
? Theory tells you how a circuit works, not why it does not work.
? Not everything works according to the specifications in the operation manual.
? Anything practical you learn will be obsolete before you use it, except the complex math, which you will never use.
? Always try to fix the hardware with software.
? Engineering is like having an 8 a.m. class and a late afternoon lab every day for the rest of your life.
? Overtime pay? What overtime pay?
? Managers, not engineers, rule the world.
? If you like junk food, caffeine and all-nighters, go into software.

anothernight · 24-05-2010 12:57AM

Moonbaby wrote: »

That is what this is about! Your trying to steal her away!
Quick Tar explode something shiney to keep her in the cool kids camp!

I was gonna say I could always go back to my original idea and try to get to NCAD. Then realised that I never bothered with the portfolio so that's out the window. Not that I wanna do art anymore anyway.

This is why I am changing back to Mech, more opportunities to make other people make your money for you

This seems to be the general mindset of a lot of people. Then again I'm also biased here as I know quite a few people who took their degree and set out to make money by themselves without some annoying boss to tell them what to do.

--LOS-- · 24-05-2010 01:01AM

I like this one....

Three men, a physicist, a engineer and a computer scientist, are
travelling in a car. Suddenly, the car starts to smoke and stops.
The three atonished men try to solve the problem:

- Physicist says: This is obviously a classic problem of torque.

It has been overloaded the elasticity limit of
the main axis.

- Engineer says : Let's be serious! The matter is that it has been
burned the spark of the connecting rod to the dynamo
of the radiator. I can easily repair it by hammering.

- Computer scientist says : What if we get off the car, wait a minute,
and then get in and try again?

Moonbaby wrote: »

Ahh! I dont imagine there is any difference so.

I think the mindset is completely different. Scientists want to know, engineers want to do.
There is scientific content, but these things are only tools to be applied to shiney things that do something fun or useful or loud. :P
Things like teamwork, project management and other business skills are just as important.
The thing about mechanical engineering, is that you graduate with alot to learn. It can take years before you are up to speed with an established engineer. So companys are reluctant to spend the money on training you.
Any little bit of practically that might speed up the learning process, is an attractive asset to a future employer.

I don't think I have ever met an engineer who was attracted to academia at the outset.

Nah no difference, just trinity and their silly ways :P

Actually I agree, I think a lot a physicists would be engineers but not many engineers would be physicists.

I would not have done engineering, ye probably most of them aren't attracted to academia at the outset coz there's a big difference in the demographic that does engineering over physics I think but still a lot of them will end up staying on in college.

Moonbaby wrote: »

That is what this is about! Your trying to steal her away!
Quick Tar explode something shiney to keep her in the cool kids camp!

What kind of physics do you study?

No I don't care, I'll just keep to myself in my own little physics box, none of that team work thanks :P

I do physics with astronomy and love the astronomy so will probably stick with that side of things.

Tar.Aldarion · 24-05-2010 01:10AM

hehe I love that one and as my class are mostly computer scientists it shall be used!
I wouldn't mind being a lecturer I suppose, I like the teaching bit meh. Also not dealing with poeple like me day to day might be better...off to da company.

Was so close to doing p&a, my best friend did it... or a diff physicsy course but it was up in dcu or in maynooth and galway is deadly. hehhe

anothernight · 24-05-2010 01:11AM

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

Was so close to doing p&a, my best friend did it... or a diff physicsy course but it was up in dcu or in maynooth and galway is deadly. hehhe

Since you ended up in Dublin anyway, did you ever regret not doing it?

--LOS-- · 24-05-2010 01:15AM

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

hehe I love that one and as my class are mostly computer scientists it shall be used!
I wouldn't mind being a lecturer I suppose, I like the teaching bit meh. Also not dealing with poeple like me day to day might be better...off to da company.

Was so close to doing p&a, my best friend did it... or a diff physicsy course but it was up in dcu or in maynooth and galway is deadly. hehhe

ye so true.
Teaching has little to do with being a lecturer though. I think that's a huge misconception.

phew.

anothernight wrote: »

Since you ended up in Dublin anyway, did you ever regret not doing it?

I'll take this one......ye he does

Tar.Aldarion · 24-05-2010 01:16AM

anothernight wrote: »

Since you ended up in Dublin anyway, did you ever regret not doing it?

It's just so many people were going to galway and I really liked it...and I love computers. I didn't think I would end up here. I do regret not doing it and I don't regret it. You always have doubts if you are interested in a few things...if I had my way I'd do law and medicine too! Possibly genetics and chemistry and things also. Haha, student for life so not the best idea.

Tar.Aldarion · 24-05-2010 01:18AM

--LOS-- wrote: »

ye so true.
Teaching has little to do with being a lecturer though. I think that's a huge misconception.

phew.

I'll take this one......ye he does

Dunno, what do they do then, they teach and they research, I'd like the research.

Yeah lucky you, or I'd be teaching you labs.

--LOS-- · 24-05-2010 01:21AM

They just have to do the teaching part, that's very little of what they actually do, their research gives them their kicks and is why they have ended up lecturing in the first place after working up through postgrad etc.

A teacher is not to be compared to a lecturer imo!

I'll put it this way, I would never wish to teach people but a life spent learning sounds great fun, i.e. teaching myself.

Tar.Aldarion · 24-05-2010 01:32AM

They go hand and hand I suppose, you teach yourself to teach them, technology changes so much in my course it is a joke. Wish we lived longer, I'd do all the courses hehe

--LOS-- · 24-05-2010 01:36AM

Nah I don't teach myself to teach no-one :mad:

Just leave me be learning over here and you can all pick up where I left off when I'm dead.

Tar.Aldarion · 24-05-2010 01:39AM

teachhhhhhh meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

See you when you are dead!

heh heh....oh tar that was terrible

--LOS-- · 24-05-2010 01:42AM

Get out of my physics room, get out! :mad:

I'll look down on you in hell engineer!

Tar.Aldarion · 24-05-2010 01:46AM

I can't say no to somebody in a lab coat.

oh getting all fiesty :pac:
I'll be busy not existing...and no experimenting on the body :mad:

24-05-2010 01:50AM

--LOS-- wrote: »

I like this one....

Nah no difference, just trinity and their silly ways :P

Actually I agree, I think a lot a physicists would be engineers but not many engineers would be physicists.

I would not have done engineering, ye probably most of them aren't attracted to academia at the outset coz there's a big difference in the demographic that does engineering over physics I think but still a lot of them will end up staying on in college.

No I don't care, I'll just keep to myself in my own little physics box, none of that team work thanks :P

I do physics with astronomy and love the astronomy so will probably stick with that side of things.

I did a module in astrophysics once, it was really fun.

What is the physics demographic? I find that alot of people from agricultural backgrounds are attracted to mechanical engineering.

--LOS-- wrote: »

I'll put it this way, I would never wish to teach people but a life spent learning sounds great fun, i.e. teaching myself.

And this is why I hate the lecturers in my dept!

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

h
Was so close to doing p&a, my best friend did it... or a diff physicsy course but it was up in dcu or in maynooth and galway is deadly. hehhe

I got Physics too.....My mam still huffs about how I could have been a teacher :P

--LOS-- · 24-05-2010 01:51AM

Uhh Tar the lab coats are all over there.....ye in the lab!

Experimenting pfff I'm not into experimenting, I'll raaaaaaa eeeesearch ya.

Just hit return there again, you might get the right result.

Tar.Aldarion · 24-05-2010 01:52AM

[/quote]
Genereally nerdy dudes with long hair and girls that want to know more about star signs.

I got Physics too.....My mam still huffs about how I could have been a teacher :P

haha, I get that sometimes...oh paul you'd be a great lecturer...lecture...paul are you lecturing yet. Lecturer

:pac:

24-05-2010 01:56AM

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

haha, I get that sometimes...oh paul you'd be a great lecturer...lecture...paul are you lecturing yet. Lecturer

:pac:[/QUOTE]

My lecturers all drive cars ****tier than mine.
REVERSE PAUL REVERSE! :P

Tar.Aldarion · 24-05-2010 01:57AM

--LOS-- wrote: »

Uhh Tar the lab coats are all over there.....ye in the lab!

Experimenting pfff I'm not into experimenting, I'll raaaaaaa eeeesearch ya.

Just hit return there again, you might get the right result.

Oh, show me, don't believe you. Why would they be in n that desk *scratch head*

Missing a consonant between the a's and e's there.

/return

Output:

eh uh eh, yeah well shut up

*pats self on back*

Tar.Aldarion · 24-05-2010 01:58AM

Moonbaby wrote: »

My lecturers all drive cars ****tier than mine.
REVERSE PAUL REVERSE! :P

Even the securty guards in my building have savage cars...not that I care about cars at all...all I know is that they have different colours and that the green ones are nice.

--LOS-- · 24-05-2010 02:00AM

Moonbaby wrote: »

I did a module in astrophysics once, it was really fun.

What is the physics demographic? I find that alot of people from agricultural backgrounds are attracted to mechanical engineering.

And this is why I hate the lecturers in my dept!

I got Physics too.....My mam still huffs about how I could have been a teacher :P

Ah just meant that people go into engineering for a job, people do physics for physics. Or something.

Ha well our lecturers are mostly great I have to say, I think they genuinely care more about the students in DCU, none of your stuffy lecturers :P

My mother seems to think I'm going to be a medical physicist in a hospital

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

Genereally nerdy dudes with long hair and girls that want to know more about star signs.

Half right

24-05-2010 02:02AM

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

Even the securty guards in my building have savage cars...not that I care about cars at all...all I know is that they have different colours and that the green ones are nice.

No! People drive buses into the green ones! You have to avoid them!

I wonder how your security guards are making all that moolaa...

24-05-2010 02:05AM

--LOS-- wrote: »

My mother seems to think I'm going to be a medical physicist in a hospital

What are they like!?!

--LOS-- · 24-05-2010 02:06AM

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

Oh, show me, don't believe you. Why would they be in n that desk *scratch head*

Missing a consonant between the a's and e's there.

/return

Output:

eh uh eh, yeah well shut up

*pats self on back*

Ye totally not on purpose or anything.......but I just meant.......

...ye well.....STFU!!

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

the green ones are nice.

--_--

The medical physicist who work in say like the radiography dept or w/e
I dunno just boring imo!

24-05-2010 02:08AM

--LOS-- wrote: »

The medical physicist who work in say like the radiography dept or w/e
I dunno just boring imo!

Haha I meant Mammies and their aspirations.
I know people who are medical scientists it pays well, and come with a big dirty index linked pension.
Almost like teaching.

Tar.Aldarion · 24-05-2010 02:08AM

Moonbaby wrote: »

What are they like!?!

Burly ginger men with many acres and arms like tree trunks.

Moonbaby wrote: »

No! People drive buses into the green ones! You have to avoid them!

I wonder how your security guards are making all that moolaa...

My security is a tough job!

--LOS-- wrote: »

Ah just meant that people go into engineering for a job, people do physics for physics. Or something.

Ha well our lecturers are mostly great I have to say, I think they genuinely care more about the students in DCU, none of your stuffy lecturers :P

My mother seems to think I'm going to be a medical physicist in a hospital

Half right

Our lecturers are hip too...young and cool... yeah....

Are you? Coat coat coat

24-05-2010 02:10AM

I;ve been told to go to bed by my little sis. Sulk! Night all

--LOS-- · 24-05-2010 02:12AM

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

Our lecturers are hip too...young and cool... yeah....

Are you? Coat coat coat

Hey I never said they were young........just cool :cool:

Not even sure am I what?!
Maybe the physicist and the hospital bit -_-

Moonbaby wrote: »

I;ve been told to go to bed by my little sis. Sulk! Night all

hmmm something is telling me to go to bed too....my good sense, I don't listen to it most of the time :pac:

Tar.Aldarion · 24-05-2010 02:14AM

--LOS-- wrote: »

Ye totally not on purpose or anything.......but I just meant.......

...ye well.....STFU!!

--_--

The medical physicist who work in say like the radiography dept or w/e
I dunno just boring imo!

It's still not working.

We dun talk no...

x--_--*

Nice bow

Moonbaby wrote: »

I;ve been told to go to bed by my little sis. Sulk! Night all

gnight, see you soon for eaties!

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