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Bullfighting - Yea or Nay?

  • 23-05-2010 12:12AM
    #1
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭


    Bullfighting is a traditional spectacle of Spain, Portugal, some cities in southern France and in several Latin American countries, in which one or more bulls are ritually killed in a bullring as a public spectacle, except in Portugal where it is illegal to kill a bull in the arena.

    Bullfighting has generated controversy in many parts of the world, including Spain, Portugal, Peru, Mexico, and Ecuador. Supporters of bullfighting argue that it is a culturally important tradition, while animal rights advocates hold that it is a blood sport resulting in the suffering of bulls and horses.

    (Wikipedia)

    So what are your views on bullfighting - do you advocate it, or are you against it?

    Poll to follow shortly.

    Bullfighting - Yay or Nay? 203 votes

    I think it's fine
    0% 0 votes
    I think it's far from fine
    19% 39 votes
    I'm undecided
    75% 153 votes
    Senor Jaguar
    5% 11 votes


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Comments

  • #2
    mink_man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭mink_man


    its yay not yea.....


  • #3
    UrbanSea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    No I think it's sick to just kill an animal like that.


  • #4
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    greetings wrote: »
    No I think it's sick to just kill an animal like that.

    Do you eat meat?


  • #5
    UrbanSea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    Ya,but do they run the cows through the streets taunting them and killing them cruelly for my steak?


  • #6
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    mink_man wrote: »
    its yay not yea.....

    My thread, my spelling




    mistakes!


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  • #7
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    greetings wrote: »
    Ya,but do they run the cows through the streets taunting them and killing them cruelly for my steak?

    I think you're confusing bull running with bull fighting.


  • #8
    UrbanSea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    I think you're confusing bull running with bull fighting.

    Aw I might well be. Do they kill the bulls in bull running too?


  • #9
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    greetings wrote: »
    Aw I might well be. Do they kill the bulls in bull running too?

    No. Not unless they fall & injure themselves badly.


  • #10
    UrbanSea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    Hmm I thought I saw a thing where they ran them through the streets and killed it. Might have been a minority.


  • #11
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    Bullfighting - Yea or Nay?

    Moooooo


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  • #12
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    I like it when the bull wins.

    Post No. 12000... w00t


  • #13
    jd007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭jd007


    I don't really see the point of it tbh...


  • #14
    shizz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭shizz


    as long as it results in a steak it's good


  • #15
    Gunsfortoys
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Gunsfortoys


    Starbelgrade making a side thread to every news story - Nay.


  • #16
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    greetings wrote: »
    Hmm I thought I saw a thing where they ran them through the streets and killed it. Might have been a minority.

    They are usually killed later in the evening, but during a bullfight.


  • #17
    southsiderosie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    I think you're confusing bull running with bull fighting.

    The bulls run through the streets to the stadium...where they are killed. (Edit: gah, too slow)

    I wouldn't want to watch a bullfight, and it seems kind of sadistic. But until they go into the ring, those bulls are better taken care of than most cows that are raised for consumption.


  • #18
    karlog
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭karlog


    what does atari jaguar mean


  • #19
    UrbanSea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    karlog wrote: »
    what does atari jaguar mean
    It's a stupid saying on boards for 'don't care'


  • #20
    speedboatchase
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,843 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    I eat meat, wear leather (shoes, pants occasionally, obv) and get hungry if I see a cow but I still just find bullfighting unnecessarily cruel and barbaric. I do acknowledge that the matadors are extremely skilled performers but the fact the death is so dragged out and gruesome just unsettles me. It just appears a little primitive and muslimy for my tastes

    ps. My parents went to a bullfighting event on their honeymoon and left during it as they just couldn't stomach the spectacle


  • #21
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    southsiderosie wrote: »
    those bulls are better taken care of than most cows that are raised for consumption.

    They also have the chance of being granted a pardon (indulto). The slaughterhouse never grants an animal the indulto. Its life is never pardoned for extreme bravery. It’s a small point, but an important one.


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  • #22
    Coriolanus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    greetings wrote: »
    Ya,but do they run the cows through the streets taunting them and killing them cruelly for my steak?
    Only because if they did, they wouldn't be as tasty. If it was shown that bulls from a run or a fight were tastier, you'd see it becoming a much more regular thing.


  • #23
    UrbanSea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    Nevore wrote: »
    Only because if they did, they wouldn't be as tasty. If it was shown that bulls from a run or a fight were tastier, you'd see it becoming a much more regular thing.
    They'd have too much muscle, less fat = less flavour


  • #24
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,702 ✭✭✭squod


    Anything that makes steak even more enjoyable is probably worth it.


  • #25
    southsiderosie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    speedboatchase wrote: »
    I eat meat, wear leather (shoes, pants occasionally, obv) and get hungry if I see a cow but I still just find bullfighting unnecessarily cruel and barbaric. I do acknowledge that the matadors are extremely skilled performers but the fact the death is so dragged out and gruesome just unsettles me. It just appears a little primitive and muslimy for my tastes

    ps. My parents went to a bullfighting event on their honeymoon and left during it as they just couldn't stomach the spectacle

    "Muslimy"?
    :confused:


  • #26
    Coriolanus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    greetings wrote: »
    They'd have too much muscle, less fat = less flavour
    Oh, I know the reasons behind it. My point is that the reason we slaughter animals for human consumption in the way we do has as much to do with the way it effects the taste/texture of the meat as it does being humane to them.


  • #27
    starbelgrade
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Gunsfortoys wrote: »
    Starbelgrade making a side thread to every news story - Nay.

    Mooo.


    I mean, boooo.


  • #28
    UrbanSea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    Nevore wrote: »
    Oh, I know the reasons behind it. My point is that the reason we slaughter animals for human consumption in the way we do has as much to do with the way it effects the taste/texture of the meat as it does being humane to them.

    Aw I get ya.


  • #29
    InkSlinger67
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭InkSlinger67


    I'd be up for "Ultimate" Bullfighting but not interested in it's current format

    Just seems giving Juan Sheet a sword makes it not much of a sport! Why not a riot shield? :confused:


  • #30
    southsiderosie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    starbelgrade wrote: »
    They also have the chance of being granted a pardon (indulto). The slaughterhouse never grants an animal the indulto. Its life is never pardoned for extreme bravery. It’s a small point, but an important one.

    I think that's what makes the debate contentious: the matadors and aficionados have great respect for the bulls. Great bulls are remembered the way great matadors are. But it's still a pretty one-sided affair, and it's hard to dress up what is basically ritualized slaughter.


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  • #31
    speedboatchase
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,843 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    southsiderosie wrote: »
    "Muslimy"?
    :confused:

    Ya I meant it tongue-in-cheek but it doesn't seem like this kind of spectacle that would exist in 2010 in Western Europe, that kind of barbarism as entertainment it's something you'd expect in Saudi Arabia tbh (chop chop square in Riyadh)


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