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Man stole dead pal's pension for 23 years

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    consultech wrote: »
    Say what exactly? That I'm sick of hearing it? I'm sure they'll be enthrawled. The reason I haven't said anything to them is because they're not going around saying idiotic things like "Ah sure fair play...Not as bad as the bankers" etc?

    No. The typical irish attitude that has us ****ed to begin with. Why haven't you called the govt. up on that?
    consultech wrote: »
    Maybe because I was quoting you? That's what quotation marks are for. The clue is in the title tbh.

    No. You were using scare quotes whiche are a completely different thing. It is the equivalent of someone using their fingers to air quote.
    consultech wrote: »
    Don't know what this is.

    Luckily, I know a place that lets you find out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    walshb wrote: »
    The man committed an offence, but when you compare him to the likes
    of some of our public reps who have been riding the system for years, it's a
    spit in the ocean. That is why standards should never be dropped; it leads
    to this kind of thing. Unfortunately, the standards at the top, from the so called
    pillars of society are pretty poor, hence how can we expect the "peasants"
    to be better?

    Wait...Consultech doesn't like that attitude. I'd remove your post if I were you ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭consultech


    Not into the technicality-bickering myself buddy, good luck with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    He should be jailed for fraud.
    Let's start with the bankers, politicians and developers who lied and cheated their way into making a mess of this country and work down from there, shall we? He beat the system and made an embarrassment of it. If he's jailed for fraud, those who dropped the ball and allowed this to happen should be too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    consultech wrote: »
    Not into the technicality-bickering myself buddy, good luck with it.

    I'm not your buddy, pal :pac:

    ...You realise you dissected one of my posts right? Oh, that subtle mistress irony.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,078 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    It's a bit funny how the story is reported in the Star today.

    They say "An elderly man who fraudulently claimed almost 140, 000 Euro."

    I mean, in 1984 this "elderly" man was a young man of around 40....

    Anyway, he probably had a vision in 1984 that in 2010 the powers that
    be would cut the pension, so he decided to make hay while the sun shone;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭rasper


    Looks like the certain members of the medical profession would have to be jailed and we know that won't happen, in fact the IMO are argueing that they should not even have to pay back the money, don't even think your man had that brass neck




    http://www.galwaynews.ie/12988-doctors-get-%E2%80%98ghost-payments%E2%80%99-patients-who-are-long-dead

    Doctors get ‘ghost payments’ for patients who are long dead
    May 21, 2010 - 7:30am
    HSE pays out more than €5m for deceased Medical Card holders
    By Darragh McDonagh


    The Health Service Executive (HSE) has paid more than €5 million in capitation payments to general practitioners since January 2009 in respect of medical card holders who were deceased.

    Since the administration of the medical card scheme for people over 70 was centralised to the Primary Care Reimbursement Service (PCRS) last year, around 20,000 cardholders have been removed after it was discovered that they were deceased.

    The HSE had continued to make capitation payments to GPs in respect of these cardholders after their deaths. The value of these “ghost payments” since January 2009 is understood to have amounted to €5m.

    The issue is to be raised at a meeting of the HSE Regional Health Forum West in Galway next week in the form of a question from its chairperson, Cllr Padraig Conneely.

    The discovery of the “inappropriate payments” has been represented as a saving by the HSE as the removal of the deceased cardholders will reduce the amount payable to GPs under the scheme in future.

    However, the Irish Medical Organisation (IMO) has said that any effort to recoup monies erroneously paid to GPs would be resisted unless similar anomalies which have resulted in underpayments to doctors were addressed on a “quid pro quo” basis.

    “We recognise that there are anomalies but the medical card system is the responsibility of the HSE to administer and it is an imperfect system,” said Dr Ronan Boland of the IMO.


    “We have highlighted anomalies in other areas that have resulted in underpayments to GPs and I think it would be unjust for the HSE to recoup the money if arrears that are owed to GPs due to administrative failings are not also addressed.”

    Chairman of the HSE Regional Health Forum West Cllr Padraig Conneely described the revelation as a “shocking indictment” of the administrative system within the HSE.

    “At a time when frontline services are suffering from cutbacks and cash shortages at the two Galway hospitals, the HSE has been paying out millions of euro in respect of people who clearly no longer require medical care,” he said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭mconigol


    Remember this guy was 43 when he decided to claim the pension of a dead 77 year old...

    On the other hand while ordinarily i'd probably condemm his actions I don't think I could judge him without knowing the full details of his personal situation...maybe he really did need the money?? e6000 a year is a bargain for the state for a full time carer...i'd imagine it'd cost alot more if his wife was put into state-run care?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭Meleftone


    consultech wrote: »
    I'm actually sick of hearing the "Ah sure it's nothing compared to..." line. It doesn't provide any kind of justification. Typical Irish "rogue/cute hoor" attitude that has us fucked to begin with.

    ...and "Absolutely hilarious?" "Fair play"? Why's that exactly? He's been defrauding for 23 years, he wasn't always an OAP.

    I'm a young man, would it be "hilarious" if I did it for 23 years and got away as relatively light as he is?

    +1 to this


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    This kind of innovation is so foreign to the Irish Government, I can see why they're so annoyed.


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