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Robin Hood

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 informant5


    Is there going to be a sequal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Mr. K


    informant5 wrote: »
    Is there going to be a sequal?

    No word yet, but it's doing pretty well at the box office; so a sequel seems likely. Ridley Scott is doing the Alien prequel, so he might not be involved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    BlitzKrieg wrote: »
    sorry lack of sleep i thought you meant he was going to do an eddie murphy and play both roles in the same film :D

    he was pencilled in to play both roles at one stage, i followed the development of the movie fairly closely

    one of the reasons i was a bit disappointed with it :)

    heres one link in case youre doubtful, theres loads more as well but i wouldnt make it up haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,333 ✭✭✭bad2dabone


    saw it last week and thought it was overall a mess with a completely laughable ending. I'm usually a fan of Crowe and Scott so this was a major let down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    Mr. K wrote: »
    No word yet, but it's doing pretty well at the box office; so a sequel seems likely. Ridley Scott is doing the Alien prequel, so he might not be involved.

    It's doing ok but not great - $111m worldwide after it's first weekend. Typically a movie like this will gross a lot more from outside the U.S but I think word of mouth will be a big problem. Apparently the production budget ballooned to over $200m so I think if you factor in its marketing the studios won't greenlight a sequel unless hits near $500m worldwide. I just don't see it having those kind of legs


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    How is this thing getting good commercial reviews?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    How is this thing getting good commercial reviews?

    It's pedigree - Ridley Scott and Russell Crowe together means critics might be willing to give them to benefit of the doubt even if it's just meh in their eyes. I'd reckon rubbish reviewers with no confidence in their ability to argue against something most likely assumed it would recieve good reviews and went along with it


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,575 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Merged threads!

    Can't say I'm surprised by the negative reaction to this here. From the first time I saw the trailer I just thought 'Gladiator in England', and I'm never sure about these radical reworkings of classic stories. Looks like it'll be best avoided, 'tis a shame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,059 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Ridley Scott has a hard on for historical epics, but his tendency to attempt to make their plots topical are his undoing with this film.

    His post 9/11 plea for peace with the Muslim world in 'Kingdom of Heaven' was simplistic, but it sorta worked (in the special edition), but here we have Robin Hood recast as an anti-establishment, 'burn the bankers and the elite' anti-globalization protester in a manner that is so painfully anachronistic that he might as well periodically check his digital wristwatch while reading the Socialist Workers Party newsletter.

    The film also rather offensively re-writes history in a criminal fashion
    aparently Rob's dear 'ol da was a philosopher that wrote the Magna Carta :rolleyes:
    and has a plot that is heavily dependent on on some credibility stretching coincidences that the film, which starts out as an enjoyable enough romp, ends up as flat out laughable
    Marrion and the 'lost boys' riding into battle, seriously WTF?

    I never thought I say this of Ridley Scott, but the final third of Robin Hood also suffers from seriously shoddy direction, and yes, Crowe's accent is all over the place, and in the first third of the film he does sound a bit Oirish.

    4/10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭thegoodgirl


    Went to see this saturday and I thought it was OK. We were both looking forward to it alot, I wouldn't say we enjoyed it from begining to end but it was watchable.

    I think himself was looking for more battles and blood.

    I'd give it 3 out of 5


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    indough wrote: »
    he was pencilled in to play both roles at one stage, i followed the development of the movie fairly closely

    one of the reasons i was a bit disappointed with it :)

    heres one link in case youre doubtful, theres loads more as well but i wouldnt make it up haha

    as the writer of the article said
    I call bull**** on this one…


    And a quick read of what ridley scott actually said, he didnt mean two seperate characters but that the character in the film trancend their traditional roles and the distinctions becomes blurred
    a good old clever adjustment of characters. One becomes the other. It changes.”

    Just usual internet hyperbole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    BlitzKrieg wrote: »
    And a quick read of what ridley scott actually said, he didnt mean two seperate characters but that the character in the film trancend their traditional roles and the distinctions becomes blurred.

    but if the sheriff and robin were to be the same person then crowe still would have been playing both roles, just like christian bale plays both bruce wayne and batman in the new movies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    just like christian bale plays both bruce wayne and batman in the new movies

    No because Christian bale's character strides to make a distinction between the two within the film, its a major element of the franchise's narrative and a major plot point in everything to do with batman (films comics and animated series).

    Scott did not mean that Robin identified himself as *the Sheriff* and *the thief* he continued to identify himself as robin hood, but this robin hood is a made up of elements from the two characters. There is no distinction. Its nothing outright spectaculer, its done alot in adaptations and in script development. Characters get collapsed down from multiple roles to one that embodies a number of them.

    For example the recent Iron Man 2 took elements from two iron man villians to make mickey rourke's character. He is never identified as either in the film he is only identified as Vanko but:
    Mickey Rourke portrays Whiplash as Ivan Vanko in the 2010 feature film Iron Man 2. This version of Whiplash, though he is never actually referred to by this name, incorporates elements of fellow Iron Man foe Crimson Dynamo.

    2 iron man villains...one new villian. This is common practice and it was what was meant and what somewhat ended up on screen with Robin Hood, except the sheriff elements were given a noble rub over by associating them with knights and lords rather then sheriffs and the law which ended up becoming a muddled mess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭Tristram


    soooooooooooooooooooo bad


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    Mark Strong is Mr Rent - a - Villain. Not as good as
    Michael Wincott's Guy of Gisbourne
    but still adequately nasty in this film/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭spank_inferno


    Seen it tonight & I did enjoy it.

    The film was not great to be honest but that aside I did find it enjoyable.
    The take on history was "interesting" you could say.

    I was galled at the ending though
    I could hardly believe my eles,
    Marion turns up with 7 or 8 pikie kids on ponies to charge the ranks of French heavy spearmen

    Looking back this image may have spoiled the whole thing for me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭Ziggy_Stardust


    I was galled at the ending though
    I could hardly believe my eles,
    Marion turns up with 7 or 8 pikie kids on ponies to charge the ranks of French heavy spearmen

    Looking back this image may have spoiled the whole thing for me!

    I was literally thinking this can't get any worse and then that happened.

    I thought it was terrible, didn't read any reviews or or even see the trailer before i saw it so didn't know what to expect but i really didn't like it. I can't believe how hit & miss Ridley Scott can be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Merged threads!

    Can't say I'm surprised by the negative reaction to this here. From the first time I saw the trailer I just thought 'Gladiator in England', and I'm never sure about these radical reworkings of classic stories. Looks like it'll be best avoided, 'tis a shame.

    It might have been good if it was 'Gladiator in England'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭paulieeye


    It might have been good if it was 'Gladiator in England'

    Better than this cack anyway.

    Someone please explain cus I feel dumb...the kid with the bag on his head..wat wa that about? Had he just seen Batman Begins as said "I'll have that". Plus i liked the way the underfed kids cud handle themselves pretty well in a battle with hardened french soldiers. Last scene sucked giant ass

    edit...but that doesnt mean the rest was any good either ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    informant5 wrote: »
    Is there going to be a sequal?

    You can guarantee that there will be.

    The whole film is geared towards it being a platform for an inevitable franchise.

    I thought it was junk and tbh, from the moment I heard Crowe was to play the part, I knew it would be.

    The guy is near 50 and he is playing the early days of Robin Hood .. yawn.

    Zero chemistry between the leads also and the script is boring.

    Cinematography in the last half hour was amazing, about the best thing about the film.

    Shame, I love Robin Hood stuff, always did.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭spank_inferno


    Indeed there may even be a trilogy (if the money adds up)

    The lack of screen time from the Sheriff of nottingham and the final scene showing Robin now as an outlaw sets up a lot of Sherriff vs Robin stuff in the 2nd film

    Plus there will be more , Barons Revold / Magna Carta stuff in the 2nd no doubt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,626 ✭✭✭Stargal


    For anyone that's interested, there's a good article in New York magazine which does a nice job of explaining why the film is such a mess. Basically it went through four or five different script re-writes and never really found its focus (as one who's seen it will testify).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    I am not surprised at all to find that the subplot with
    impersonating a knight
    was a a hacket job from an earlier draft, it felt very forced and during the film
    I actually thought it was the sheriff until they identified him as locksley


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 CabbageThing


    Why has the Robin Hood soundtrack got uillean pipes on it mmmmmmm?
    Is that because dare I say it English actually have no culture at all except for WWII and 1966?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    Indeed there may even be a trilogy (if the money adds up)

    The lack of screen time from the Sheriff of nottingham and the final scene showing Robin now as an outlaw sets up a lot of Sherriff vs Robin stuff in the 2nd film

    Plus there will be more , Barons Revold / Magna Carta stuff in the 2nd no doubt.

    Did you just give away the ending?? :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Corholio wrote: »
    Did you just give away the ending?? :mad:

    The entire premise of the movie is Robin Hood before he became an outlaw, so no.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭spank_inferno


    Corholio wrote: »
    Did you just give away the ending?? :mad:

    In the same way I will give away the ending of ' Titanic'.....
    it sank
    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    I enjoyed the film a lot, it was much more humourous than I thought it'd be. Robin Hood's brothers in arms are great comic relief. I think it ended at the right time too, when
    King John declares Robin to be an outlaw
    I thought it was going to go on for another 40 minutes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭Decuc500


    I really enjoyed it as well, though it certainly had it's flaws. The first third was very impressive but it lost it's way a bit in the middle. I liked the way it tried to do something different with the Robin Hood story.

    It's always great to see a Ridley Scott movie on the big screen, even if it's minor Ridley Scott.


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