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Katy French "will not get justice" - tabloid headline?!!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,285 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Bulktohulk wrote: »
    What? She wasn't pretty at all. She looked like a pig.

    No need to be so aggressive in your put down. A simple "I didn't think she was pretty," would have sufficed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Banned Account


    NothingMan wrote: »
    I work in IT, if I pop over to my plumber mates house does that all of a sudden mean he knows how to manage a small to medium sized network?

    Nope, but it does mean that he has an IT CONNECTION.

    If you have a good friend who happens to be a hitman then, like it or not, you have a criminal connection. You may not be involved in crime, you may not commit crime but the fact that you spend long evenings in your livingroom talking to hitmen means that you have criminal connections.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭Bulktohulk


    walshb wrote: »
    No need to be so aggressive in your put down. A simple "I didn't think she was pretty," would have sufficed

    I'm sorry. I don't think she was pretty. I think she looked like a pig. Is that better? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    the fact that you spend long evenings in your livingroom talking to hitmen means that you have criminal connections.
    Just like anyone who voted for FF, has criminal connections. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭evercloserunion


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Just like anyone who voted for FF, has criminal connections. :pac:
    Where did that come from and how is it relevant to this thread?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Christ almighty.

    We have thousand post threads with people defending Headshops and the crap they sell and how people should have the freedom to take what they want as alcohol kills so many .. blah blah fcuking blah.

    Then a girl takes cocaine and dies and it's: 'Fcuk her, she deserved it' - yeah, real sense of a belief in a person's freedom to recreational substances now.
    I'm all for the freedom to imbibe whatever substance you choose but who else is to blame when you OD?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,607 ✭✭✭✭sceptre


    Nope, but it does mean that he has an IT CONNECTION.
    Amazing the power of networking these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    Nope, but it does mean that he has an IT CONNECTION.

    If you have a good friend who happens to be a hitman then, like it or not, you have a criminal connection. You may not be involved in crime, you may not commit crime but the fact that you spend long evenings in your livingroom talking to hitmen means that you have criminal connections.


    That's exactly my point. My friend is not involved in IT, but spends long evenings in his living room talking to a person in IT, has an IT connection as much as that man has a criminal connection.

    Your example is flawed. I had no idea the guy I knew was involved in crime. I was shocked when I found out what he had done. I spent an evening in my house talking to him but I don't have criminal connections in the sinister way you are implying in your post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    I'm all for the freedom to imbibe whatever substance you choose but who else is to blame when you OD?

    Nobody, unless they have deliberately sold drugs cut with substances unsuitable for consumption.

    Why would you think my post is blaming anyone else?

    I am just pointing out that if people wish to preach for people to have the freedom to take drugs (be it they legal or otherwise) then they should not be saying she got what she deserved.

    Will everyone that takes cocaine this weekend deserve to die?

    It makes ZERO sense, ZERO!

    The sanctimony of the media is a totally different matter, that has always been around, as far back as JFK's assassination if not even longer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Nobody, unless they have deliberately sold drugs cut with substances unsuitable for consumption.

    Why would you think my post is blaming anyone else?

    I am just pointing out that if people wish to preach for people to have the freedom to take drugs (be it they legal or otherwise) then they should not be saying she got what she deserved.

    Will everyone that takes cocaine this weekend deserve to die?

    It makes ZERO sense, ZERO!

    The sanctimony of the media is a totally different matter, that has always been around, as far back as JFK's assassination if not even longer.
    Horribly, I find myself agreeing with you. It is because the media made her famous for doing nothing that people disliked her. It is because the media made such a fuss about her death that people think she got what she deserved.
    In truth, she was a nobody who had no impact on my life and I couldn't give a f*ck about her justice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,568 ✭✭✭candy-gal1


    if your stupid enough to willingly sniff/inject something illiegal into your body then what the hell do you expect?! seriously! stupid idiot scangers pretending to be a celebrity, oh if i take this im like so and so! :mad:

    FFS get a life! its things and people like this that make me realise im not as stupid as i sometimes think i am lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭shnethb


    In the days following her death she was described as the Irish princess Diana. FFS she was a coke head!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    OutlawPete wrote: »

    I am just pointing out that if people wish to preach for people to have the freedom to take drugs (be it they legal or otherwise) then they should not be saying she got what she deserved.

    Will everyone that takes cocaine this weekend deserve to die?

    It makes ZERO sense, ZERO!
    The people I see consistently posting about the hypocrisy of our drug laws are not the ones saying she deserved to die; they're saying she is solely responsible for her own demise.
    candy-gal1 wrote: »
    if your stupid enough to willingly sniff/inject something illiegal into your body then what the hell do you expect?! seriously! stupid idiot scangers pretending to be a celebrity, oh if i take this im like so and so! :mad:
    In fairness, if you have any knowledge of the relevant statistics you wouldn't really expect to die from taking cocaine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭muffy


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Nobody, unless they have deliberately sold drugs cut with substances unsuitable for consumption.

    Why would you think my post is blaming anyone else?

    I am just pointing out that if people wish to preach for people to have the freedom to take drugs (be it they legal or otherwise) then they should not be saying she got what she deserved.

    Will everyone that takes cocaine this weekend deserve to die?

    It makes ZERO sense, ZERO!

    The sanctimony of the media is a totally different matter, that has always been around, as far back as JFK's assassination if not even longer.


    I'm not saying she deserved to die, or that someone was the blame per se. I want the freedom to take whatever I want, likewise I accept it is my responsibility what happens to me. The fact that coke is illegal seems to lead the Media to think that it the only reason she died from it...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    shnethb wrote: »
    In the days following her death she was described as the Irish princess Diana. FFS she was a coke head!!!

    I don't see how that would rule out the diana comparisons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    legalise and regulate, simple


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,568 ✭✭✭candy-gal1


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    The people I see consistently posting about the hypocrisy of our drug laws are not the ones saying she deserved to die; they're saying she is solely responsible for her own demise.

    In fairness, if you have any knowledge of the relevant statistics you wouldn't really expect to die from taking cocaine.


    Well tbh we all know that if you sniff something up your nose or inject something theres a lot more of a risk with that than with alcohol.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭muffy


    candy-gal1 wrote: »
    Well tbh we all know that if you sniff something up your nose or inject something theres a lot more of a risk with that than with alcohol.

    Please enlighten me as to your research or papers you have read supporting this.
    Actually don't there is another tread for this.

    All those celebs who are "tired and emotional" and "exhausted" in the pics in the tabloids are probably drunk, and the ones described as drunk are probably tired/exhausted for real, the papers decide who their darlings are and who are the villians. In this case, even though she died in a socially unacceptable manner, Katy French remained a darling. Go figure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    John Waters wrote this claptrap after her death. It's tragic for families but seriously this extract is not meant to be funny, but I just think it's hilariously deluded. :pac: I mean what? Did she cure cancer or something?


    "She had a beauty that suggested itself as emanating from an infinity within. She seemed to believe anything was possible and her smile convinced you, for an instant, that she was right. I wanted her dreams to come true. She was a child. She was my daughter and Eoghan’s daughter and Eamon’s daughter and Pat’s daughter and Bertie’s daughter. She was your daughter, your little sister. She was a child of Ireland in the time of its rebirth."

    "Katy French was a personification of our fantasies, of our sense of what we were becoming, of how we might unfold ourselves. She was not the only one, but in the immediate past was perhaps the most spectacular light on the skyline, a meteorite of desire plummeting through the Irish zeitgeist… Katy had found a way of being that promised her it could slake all her human cravings. She had manoeuvred herself into a position where everything humanly desirable seemed to be within reach, and was careering forward on the path opening up in front of her. She did not, other than literally, die of whatever it will say on her death certificate. She died of desire, of being utterly human."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    muffy wrote: »
    Please enlighten me as to your research or papers you have read supporting this.
    Actually don't there is another tread for this.

    All those celebs who are "tired and emotional" and "exhausted" in the pics in the tabloids are probably drunk, and the ones described as drunk are probably tired/exhausted for real, the papers decide who their darlings are and who are the villians. In this case, even though she died in a socially unacceptable manner, Katy French remained a darling. Go figure.

    Could it be that taking coke is the done thing by many in those circles so it was quite a shock when one of 'them' died from it?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    candy-gal1 wrote: »
    Well tbh we all know that if you sniff something up your nose or inject something theres a lot more of a risk with that than with alcohol.
    Alcohol's got nothing to do with what I said, though it’s the most significant contributory factor in a large percentage of overdoses.

    The number of deaths from cocaine is very low relative to the number of users, so you wouldn’t “expect” to die from a few lines.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    foxyboxer wrote: »
    John Waters wrote this claptrap after her death. It's tragic for families but seriously this extract is not meant to be funny, but I just think it's hilariously deluded. :pac: I mean what? Did she cure cancer or something?


    "She had a beauty that suggested itself as emanating from an infinity within. She seemed to believe anything was possible and her smile convinced you, for an instant, that she was right. I wanted her dreams to come true. She was a child. She was my daughter and Eoghan’s daughter and Eamon’s daughter and Pat’s daughter and Bertie’s daughter. She was your daughter, your little sister. She was a child of Ireland in the time of its rebirth."

    "Katy French was a personification of our fantasies, of our sense of what we were becoming, of how we might unfold ourselves. She was not the only one, but in the immediate past was perhaps the most spectacular light on the skyline, a meteorite of desire plummeting through the Irish zeitgeist… Katy had found a way of being that promised her it could slake all her human cravings. She had manoeuvred herself into a position where everything humanly desirable seemed to be within reach, and was careering forward on the path opening up in front of her. She did not, other than literally, die of whatever it will say on her death certificate. She died of desire, of being utterly human."

    That will be irelands next Eurovision song.
    Christ it's awful. It's like the letter Flanders wrote to Homer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    foxyboxer wrote: »

    "She had a beauty that suggested itself as emanating from an infinity within. She seemed to believe anything was possible and her smile convinced you, for an instant, that she was right. I wanted her dreams to come true. She was a child. She was my daughter and Eoghan’s daughter and Eamon’s daughter and Pat’s daughter and Bertie’s daughter. She was your daughter, your little sister. She was a child of Ireland in the time of its rebirth."

    "Katy French was a personification of our fantasies, of our sense of what we were becoming, of how we might unfold ourselves. She was not the only one, but in the immediate past was perhaps the most spectacular light on the skyline, a meteorite of desire plummeting through the Irish zeitgeist… Katy had found a way of being that promised her it could slake all her human cravings. She had manoeuvred herself into a position where everything humanly desirable seemed to be within reach, and was careering forward on the path opening up in front of her. She did not, other than literally, die of whatever it will say on her death certificate. She died of desire, of being utterly human."
    At least we can take solace in the fact that there’s a new star in the sky, shining down on all of us :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭muffy


    Larianne wrote: »
    Could it be that taking coke is the done thing by many in those circles so it was quite a shock when one of 'them' died from it?

    That is probably it. She was probably the darling of their particular group of mates or something. She may have been a sound girl, but hardly the nations darling! That magazine that comes with the Sunday Indo is an example of publication that fuels this kind of tripe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,267 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    foxyboxer wrote: »
    John Waters wrote this claptrap after her death. It's tragic for families but seriously this extract is not meant to be funny, but I just think it's hilariously deluded. :pac: I mean what? Did she cure cancer or something?


    "She had a beauty that suggested itself as emanating from an infinity within. She seemed to believe anything was possible and her smile convinced you, for an instant, that she was right. I wanted her dreams to come true. She was a child. She was my daughter and Eoghan’s daughter and Eamon’s daughter and Pat’s daughter and Bertie’s daughter. She was your daughter, your little sister. She was a child of Ireland in the time of its rebirth."

    "Katy French was a personification of our fantasies, of our sense of what we were becoming, of how we might unfold ourselves. She was not the only one, but in the immediate past was perhaps the most spectacular light on the skyline, a meteorite of desire plummeting through the Irish zeitgeist… Katy had found a way of being that promised her it could slake all her human cravings. She had manoeuvred herself into a position where everything humanly desirable seemed to be within reach, and was careering forward on the path opening up in front of her. She did not, other than literally, die of whatever it will say on her death certificate. She died of desire, of being utterly human."

    Holy sweet jeesus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Dead cokehead airhead supermodel?

    PeterIanStaker, you should be ashamed of yourself calling Katy French a supermodel.

    She was an Irish Promotions Girl.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    muffy wrote: »
    That magazine that comes with the Sunday Indo is an example of publication that fuels this kind of tripe.
    Gerald Keane and Lisa Murphy were on the magazine cover a while back, dressed in royal attire, being heralded without trace of irony as “Ireland’s Posh and Becks.” It is a faux-cosmopolitan rag of the highest order.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 417 ✭✭muffy


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    Gerald Keane and Lisa Murphy were on the magazine cover a while back, dressed in royal attire, being heralded without trace of irony as “Ireland’s Posh and Becks.” It is a faux-cosmopolitan rag of the highest order.

    There was once a front page spread about teenage girls in Malahide, posing on yatchs and such... about how great they where... I live 10 mins from Malahide can I be on the front of the Sunday Indo as well?! :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 690 ✭✭✭Blobby George


    shnethb wrote: »
    In the days following her death she was described as the Irish princess Diana. FFS she was a coke head!!!
    She was a fine coke head. We should make that distinction.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭evercloserunion


    muffy wrote: »
    There was once a front page spread about teenage girls in Malahide, posing on yatchs and such... about how great they where... I live 10 mins from Malahide can I be on the front of the Sunday Indo as well?! :confused:
    Is that that Living magazine? I once read an article about how all young people are promiscuous... They must have actually spent weeks searching the country for the two sluttiest trampiest girls they could find so they could generalise their experience onto the whole country.

    Sad thing is the Sindo itself is no better.


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