Should there be an end period for the Dole?

mise_me_fein1 · 18-05-2010 11:02PM #1

A lot of people complain about this and that these days but you'll find some people complaining that actually never worked.

I think now that we're having so many problems with finance in Ireland that we should have a cut off point for the dole. I mean if someone can't get a job after 5 years...why should they deserve anything. They're not contributing.

People that stay on the dole for life generally tend to be given a free house, while also receiving other benefits. I think this has to change to benefit our country's mentality. The "fair play to them if they can get away with it" has to end.

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 18-05-2010 11:04PM

perhaps when there was jobs they should have been forced but now, sure what can ya do, it's a recession session

stovelid · 18-05-2010 11:04PM

It should run concurrently with a cut-off period for dole-related threads as well.

Rented Mule · 18-05-2010 11:04PM

As much as it would make sense, I don't ever see the Government cutting off the only source of income for their constituents.

Krusader · 18-05-2010 11:05PM

well people are assessed after a year so there dole can be cut down

starbelgrade · 18-05-2010 11:07PM

There is already an end date for the dole. If you are unemployed for longer than a year, you are means tested & if your income is higher than the allowed limit, your dole is either reduced or stopped.

It suits a lot more people than it should & doesn't help a lot of those who need it.

Gunsfortoys · 18-05-2010 11:07PM

2012, because the end of the world happens then, i read it in OK! magazine. Anything Jordan says must be true.

mise_me_fein1 · 18-05-2010 11:08PM

stovelid wrote: »

It should run concurrently with a cut-off period for dole-related threads as well.

Some people don't spend as much time on boards.ie as you....I hope you understand friend.

stovelid · 18-05-2010 11:09PM

mise_me_fein1 wrote: »

Some people don't spend as much time on boards.ie as you....I hope you understand friend.

I'm not your friend?

Biggins · 18-05-2010 11:09PM

mise_me_fein1 wrote: »

Some people don't spend as much time on boards.ie as you....I hope you understand friend.

Run_to_da_hills · 18-05-2010 11:09PM

There might be an end to the dole altogether if the IMF are called in.

MrStuffins · 18-05-2010 11:09PM

Yes

Then how about an end period for paying taxes when you work?

we'llallhavetea_old · 18-05-2010 11:10PM

wahey! another dole thread. tip fcuking top.

Cheap Thrills! · 18-05-2010 11:10PM

Biggins wrote: »

Me neither

Does not compute!!!

*head explodes*

LFC5Times · 18-05-2010 11:10PM

I think it should be increased 20% year on year..............

bryaner · 18-05-2010 11:11PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

There might be an end to the dole altogether if the IMF are called in.

Not going to happen!

mise_me_fein1 · 18-05-2010 11:12PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

There might be an end to the dole altogether if the IMF are called in, end of.

Let's hope so.....I mean a complete end I would not want that but we're in a country were it's more convienient not to work than to do anything.

I know lots of people that don't work because it's not worth it.....they're quite content as it is....how many countries in the world have this situation?

How many countries in the world have this situation and owe as much as we do?

bryaner · 18-05-2010 11:13PM

mise_me_fein1 wrote: »

Let's hope so.....I mean a complete end I would not want that but we're in a country were it's more convienient not to work than to do anything.

I know lots of people that don't work because it's not worth it.....they're quite content as it is....how many countries in the world have this situation?

How many countries in the world have this situation and owe as much as we do?

There's always one

DarkJager · 18-05-2010 11:16PM

When this patethic government sort their **** out and start tackling the unemployment rate, then you can put a limit on the dole. Until then, in addition to the dole, they should be providing us with plane tickets to get out of this stagnant ****hole.

dsmythy · 18-05-2010 11:17PM

DarkJager wrote: »

When this patethic government sort their **** out and start tackling the unemployment rate, then you can put a limit on the dole. Until then, in addition to the dole, they should be providing us with plane tickets to get out of this stagnant ****hole.

Sure you can fly to Greece! Yay!

Seriously though, sometimes perspective is needed.

mise_me_fein1 · 18-05-2010 11:19PM

bryaner wrote: »

There's always one

Thanks...

self employed = create employment, pay tax, work hard and perhaps deal with stress.....NO DOLE

Long term unemployed = large possibilty not trained in anything, never contributed to society, free house, free health, many allowances, no intention on looking for work...... SUSTAINED BY THE VERY PEOPLE THAT WILL NOT RECEIVE DOLE IF THEY GO BELLY UP

eilo1 · 18-05-2010 11:20PM

ha I was day dreaming about winning the 100 million on the Euro lotto last week and thought it would be so nice to just give everyone on job seekers an extra 50/100 Euro for the June bank holiday weekend!

Darlughda · 18-05-2010 11:22PM

mise_me_fein1 wrote: »

Let's hope so.....I mean a complete end I would not want that but we're in a country were it's more convienient not to work than to do anything.

I know lots of people that don't work because it's not worth it.....they're quite content as it is...QUOTE]

Mise mé féin (Me Myself) Your username sums you up.

Go educate yourself. Better still apply for over 300 jobs over 5 years and not a chance of an interview, yet still keep going.

Find out what life is really like for the majority of people who are long term unemployed and absolutely ****ing hate it every day of their waking lives and would do anything to be in a job.

Do not lie. You do not know lots of people who are content they are ****ing accepting their situation and how dare you make such ignorant threads and make such assumptions about people who are struggling day to day?

Run_to_da_hills · 18-05-2010 11:24PM

bryaner wrote: »

Not going to happen!

Is there a generous Dole in Greece or Iceland that would match ours? I doubt it.

There are plenty of countries in the EU with duck egg offered for those out of work.

Just last week the Government was told by the EU that it would have to foreword its budget sheets prior to any budget, If things get bad they could turn around and tell us all to fcuk off, as easy as that.

They will be the ones bailing us out.

bryaner · 18-05-2010 11:28PM

mise_me_fein1 wrote: »

Thanks...

self employed = create employment, pay tax, work hard and perhaps deal with stress.....NO DOLE

Long term unemployed = large possibilty not trained in anything, never contributed to society, free house, free health, many allowances, no intention on looking for work...... SUSTAINED BY THE VERY PEOPLE THAT WILL NOT RECEIVE DOLE IF THEY GO BELLY UP

Their always there and always have been! Your just noticing them now, I know where your coming from I worked 20 years straight from school, got let go 1.5 years ago and as soon as my stamps ran out NADA squat didly.. Quite annoying
but cutting the dole of people let go in the last 5 years is not the answer. I could walk around my estate and pick out 20 mother lazy fcukers that have never worked in their lives their the fcuks to get first.

bryaner · 18-05-2010 11:30PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Is there a generous Dole in Greece or Iceland that would match ours? I doubt it.

There are plenty of countries in the EU with duck egg offered for those out of work.

Just last week the Government was told by the EU that it would have to foreword its budget sheets prior to any budget, If things get bad they could turn around and tell us all to fcuk off, as easy as that.

They will be the ones bailing us out.

Do you read the paper or watch the news?

mise_me_fein1 · 18-05-2010 11:32PM

[QUOTE= Darlughda;.
Go educate yourself. Better still apply for over 300 jobs over 5 years and not a chance of an interview, yet still keep going.

Find out what life is really like for the majority of people who are long term unemployed and absolutely ****ing hate it every day of their waking lives and would do anything to be in a job.

Do not lie. You do not know lots of people who are content they are ****ing accepting their situation and how dare you make such ignorant threads and make such assumptions about people who are struggling day to day?[/I][/B]QUOTE]

I know the people you are talking about...you mean those people that "couldn't find work" during the good years....ah yes those people.

The people that never went to FAS to get trained in anything? Those people?

I've seen people searching for bits of pieces out of a bin when I lived in a different country here in Europe.
Those people who won't get trained in anything, that have never given anything to this country don't know how good they have....and YES, I do expect the IMF to come in and sort out our expenses and I'm sure the dole will go down and down and this won't bother most people because most people, most normal people will have found a job in 5 or 6 years when things pick up.

Fago! · 18-05-2010 11:33PM

Not a fucking chance. What if someone who genuinly can't get a job and has a family to support? So now because it's taking him a bit of time to find work, he has to suffer, and therefore, so do his family?

Fuck right off!!!

Darlughda · 18-05-2010 11:37PM

mise_me_fein1 wrote: »

I know the people you are talking about...you mean those people that "couldn't find work" during the good years....ah yes those people.

The people that never went to FAS to get trained in anything? Those people?

I've seen people searching for bits of pieces out of a bin when I lived in a different country here in Europe.
Those people who won't get trained in anything, that have never given anything to this country don't know how good they have....and YES, I do expect the IMF to come in and sort out our expenses and I'm sure the dole will go down and down and this won't bother most people because most people, most normal people will have found a job in 5 or 6 years when things pick up.

Careful with your ignorance. You have no idea the hardship some people have experienced during the 'boom' years. 'Boom' for some maybe. During those years many people who were already experiencing difficulty, are now even worse off. The so called boom made the gap between rich and poor wider. Despite how many useless fás courses they threw themselves into.

mise_me_fein1 · 18-05-2010 11:43PM

Hey Darlughda.....there was plenty of work in the book years?

If you couldn't get a job in Ireland during the boom years....wtf??

This is one of the most loved up countries on the planet.

We give money, to loads of people for nothing.

When you wonder why you're getting a huge tax bill that nearly puts you out of business and think to yourself....hmm where does this money go...when you're suicidal....and you look across the street at the family that has brought up their kids only to exist and sponge and claim benefits....woud you ever you and fcuk yourself Darlughda....you IGNORANT FCUK

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 18-05-2010 11:44PM

mise_me_fein1 wrote: »

Hey Darlughda.....there was plenty of work in the book years?

If you couldn't get a job in Ireland during the boom years....wtf??

This is one of the most loved up countries on the planet.

We give money, to loads of people for nothing.

When you wonder why you're getting a huge tax bill that nearly puts you out of business and think to yourself....hmm where does this money go...when you're suicidal....and you look across the street at the family that has brought up their kids only to exist and sponge and claim benefits....woud you ever you and fcuk yourself Darlughda....you IGNORANT FCUK

Delighted you said that, cheerio!

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