Anyone find it literally impossible to get a nuke?

hightower1 · 16-04-2010 01:36AM

brian plank wrote: »

you haven't seen any of his ffa videos then. 8 minutes in the same building hiding behind claymores. he got skilzzz. :rolleyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjEYPl4lcQc

Thats the worst camping ever! Come on he NEVER left the building! Not once, what a joke. He simply stayed in one 6th of the entire map the entire game. To add to that 2/3rd of his kills were from complete noobs @ level 10 and 14, total cannon fodder and yet he's all proud! looser.

Jev/N · 16-04-2010 02:14AM

hightower1 wrote: »

Thats the worst camping ever! Come on he NEVER left the building! Not once, what a joke. He simply stayed in one 6th of the entire map the entire game. To add to that 2/3rd of his kills were from complete noobs @ level 10 and 14, total cannon fodder and yet he's all proud! looser.

In fairness to the guy, he's a very good player, it's not just a one off video

TheMilkyPirate · 16-04-2010 02:28AM

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shawpower · 16-04-2010 09:27AM

hightower1 wrote: »

Thats the worst camping ever! Come on he NEVER left the building! Not once, what a joke. He simply stayed in one 6th of the entire map the entire game. To add to that 2/3rd of his kills were from complete noobs @ level 10 and 14, total cannon fodder and yet he's all proud! looser.

Sorry. But in my eyes, you're definition of camping is way off. I'm not saying he's running and gunning or anything daft like that, he's clearly a defensive style player. But it ain't camping. Just because he never left the building, that doesn't imply camping. I mean do you have to get to every part of the map, before you're a legit non-camper?

He's simply set up a large base and defended it. Yes he takes cover behind desk screens at times, but that's the whole point of the game; to move between cover. The guy he kills at the 1 minute mark is a camper; lying down, hiding behind cover and scoped in on one location. He's moving around the building constantly, and runs into loads of people that could have killed him first if they'd been better players.

I'm not disputing that he got lucky with nooby players etc, but I don't think that's camping at all. I mean the building is quite large, with 4 access points. People come into it from lots of angles, and he kills them while in the open.

krudler · 16-04-2010 10:19AM

hightower1 wrote: »

Thats the worst camping ever! Come on he NEVER left the building! Not once, what a joke. He simply stayed in one 6th of the entire map the entire game. To add to that 2/3rd of his kills were from complete noobs @ level 10 and 14, total cannon fodder and yet he's all proud! looser.

What a load of sh1t, defending the entire building is camping now?do you even actually know what camping is? a room is camping, do you make sure you go to every part of every map in the game when you play?It wasnt like he just plonked himself in one corner and shotgunned whoever passed by, THATS camping. Last game I played was on Derail and I didnt go to the far side of the map, sh1t, guess I was camping eh? He was controlling the building to make sure the other players were spawning on the opposite side and moving around constantly.

as for the noobs comment, I guess you dont shoot anyone less than lvl 70 as it wouldnt be fair?:rolleyes:

The amount of begrudgery and complaining that goes on among MW2 players is insane, use one gun you're considered a noob, use grenades and your're a noob, stop running for 2 seconds and you're camping, use claymores and you're a noob, dropshot and you're a noob, use cover you're a camper.

do all the complainers run about firing wildly hoping they hit something? or would that be considered noobish as well?I'd love to see a few vids of the constant begrudgers playing on here because every other poster could easily accuse them of everything else and tear them to shreds.

Creasy_bear · 16-04-2010 11:39AM

shawpower wrote: »

Sorry. But in my eyes, you're definition of camping is way off. I'm not saying he's running and gunning or anything daft like that, he's clearly a defensive style player. But it ain't camping. Just because he never left the building, that doesn't imply camping. I mean do you have to get to every part of the map, before you're a legit non-camper?

He's simply set up a large base and defended it. Yes he takes cover behind desk screens at times, but that's the whole point of the game; to move between cover. The guy he kills at the 1 minute mark is a camper; lying down, hiding behind cover and scoped in on one location. He's moving around the building constantly, and runs into loads of people that could have killed him first if they'd been better players.

I'm not disputing that he got lucky with nooby players etc, but I don't think that's camping at all. I mean the building is quite large, with 4 access points. People come into it from lots of angles, and he kills them while in the open.

what this lad said

hightower1 · 16-04-2010 12:08PM

krudler wrote: »

What a load of sh1t, defending the entire building is camping now?do you even actually know what camping is? a room is camping, do you make sure you go to every part of every map in the game when you play?It wasnt like he just plonked himself in one corner and shotgunned whoever passed by, THATS camping. Last game I played was on Derail and I didnt go to the far side of the map, sh1t, guess I was camping eh? He was controlling the building to make sure the other players were spawning on the opposite side and moving around constantly.

as for the noobs comment, I guess you dont shoot anyone less than lvl 70 as it wouldnt be fair?:rolleyes:

The amount of begrudgery and complaining that goes on among MW2 players is insane, use one gun you're considered a noob, use grenades and your're a noob, stop running for 2 seconds and you're camping, use claymores and you're a noob, dropshot and you're a noob, use cover you're a camper.

do all the complainers run about firing wildly hoping they hit something? or would that be considered noobish as well?I'd love to see a few vids of the constant begrudgers playing on here because every other poster could easily accuse them of everything else and tear them to shreds.

Ok then lets take a page from the Krudler school of high humour and observation.....

Oh I guess everyone one should be happy with every feature of the game and no one should complain about any play style in any way, we should all be absolutely delighted with every person we meet in a match.

What was is about sarcasim and forms of wit?

Its the worlds most played online shooter for xbl currently so there are people who are going to be pissed off with parts of it, your on a public discussion forum based on said game so what exactly did you expect? If your not happy with people opinions of the game then I suggest you dont read anyones post for fear that it may be a complaint.

Here is thE exact definition of camping for you krudler seeing as you seem to need a hand.....

"Camping is most common in first-person shooters when a player hides in a single location that serves as a tactical advantage over the opposing player(s) for long periods of time. The position chosen is normally secluded from casual view and maybe partially secured at least on one side by any object. The location is then used to ambush or carry out sniper attacks on opposing player(s). The period of time a camping player spends in the specific location is usually undefined because of varying game conditions"

So did he hide in a single location to provide a tactial advantage - check
For a long period of time - check
Secluded from casual view - check

Definition - camping.

James Forde · 16-04-2010 12:11PM

hightower1 wrote: »

Thats the worst camping ever! Come on he NEVER left the building! Not once, what a joke. He simply stayed in one 6th of the entire map the entire game. To add to that 2/3rd of his kills were from complete noobs @ level 10 and 14, total cannon fodder and yet he's all proud! looser.

you sir have no idea what you're talking about

Batmantastic · 16-04-2010 01:06PM

I posted a thread about the nuke I got last night without even noticing this one :pac:

Haha I got mine on Skidrow and here's the setup I was using -

Scar w/ FMJ
Spas-12 Grip
Claymore
Scavenger Pro
Stopping Power Pro
Ninja Pro

Killstreaks set at 7, 9 and 25.

Get your 7 kills, call in Harriers, let the Harriers do their job until they leave and then call in the Pave Low, let that do it's job and you should be only 4 or 5 kills away. My heart was THUMPING when I got closer and when I got it I was CHUFFED.

Also, I got it in FFA

Overheal · 16-04-2010 01:09PM

hightower1 wrote: »

Here is thE exact definition of camping for you krudler seeing as you seem to need a hand.....

"Camping is most common in first-person shooters when a player hides in a single location that serves as a tactical advantage over the opposing player(s) for long periods of time. The position chosen is normally secluded from casual view and maybe partially secured at least on one side by any object. The location is then used to ambush or carry out sniper attacks on opposing player(s). The period of time a camping player spends in the specific location is usually undefined because of varying game conditions"

So did he hide in a single location to provide a tactial advantage - check
For a long period of time - check
Secluded from casual view - check

Definition - camping.

Your single location is a bit of a stretch. Neither did he stay in a static X, Y, or Z position. His Territory of Patrol was actually several hundred square feet, if you want to get pedantic about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA7vifJZNXE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slwqy6Ep6so

thats camping.

krudler · 16-04-2010 01:15PM

"Camping is most common in first-person shooters when a player hides in a single location that serves as a tactical advantage over the opposing player(s) for long periods of time. The position chosen is normally secluded from casual view and maybe partially secured at least on one side by any object. The location is then used to ambush or carry out sniper attacks on opposing player(s). The period of time a camping player spends in the specific location is usually undefined because of varying game conditions"

So did he hide in a single location to provide a tactial advantage - check
For a long period of time - check
Secluded from casual view - check

Definition - camping.

"secluded from casual view"? so what we should all run about in the open hoping we dont get shot, you havent a clue what you're talking about, if thats you definition of camping I'd honestly love to see you playing the game

Batmantastic · 16-04-2010 01:17PM

hightower1 wrote: »

What was is about sarcasim and forms of wit?

I do believe that you sir, fail at the English language.

To correct your above statement - "What was it about sarcasm and forms of wit?"

Also, holding down one building is NOT camping, sitting in one room with a shotgun is. You fail at life. Bring all of your FPS games and your console into your nearest game shop and trade them in for a Wii with Super Mario, because that is probably the only game you will ever be good at from the sounds of it.

krudler · 16-04-2010 01:20PM

Overheal wrote: »

Your single location is a bit of a stretch. Neither did he stay in a static X, Y, or Z position. His Territory of Patrol was actually several hundred square feet, if you want to get pedantic about it.

Exactly, running about all over the map is just going to get you killed no matter how good you are, keeping to an area and holding it is a tactic, camping is just sitting in a stairwell or by a window not moving hoping someone runs by

sierra117x · 16-04-2010 01:33PM

Flecktarn wrote: »

Right so I'm a pretty decent player not unbelievable but pretty good :pac:

Anywho I decided tonight I'd get my act together and actually bother to get a nuke. My killstreaks are harriers, chopper gunner and nuke, and tbh I completely suck at it, I couldn't even get a harrier strike never mind the other two! I tried domination and team deathmatch but no joy!

My class is:
ACR with the holographic
Striker w/foregrip
Semtex
Scavenger Pro
Stopping Power Pro
Ninja Pro

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ditch the acr . too many shots needed to get a kill . try scar if you like your assault rifles. heard their great i just dont like the iron sights on them

shawpower · 16-04-2010 02:21PM

I realise this is starting to become you against everyone else, so I'm trying to stick to facts here, rather than get personal etc..

hightower1 wrote: »

So did he hide in a single location to provide a tactial advantage - check

Uncheck. He didn't stay in a single location for the game. He stayed in 1/4 of the map for the whole game. Again, I'll ask the question. How much did he need to cover to become a legit non-camper? 50%, 75%??

hightower1 wrote: »

Secluded from casual view - check

Nope. He's standing in the huge windows at least 4-5 times. I've killed people in those windows so many times, that I'm pretty sure it falls under the heading of "in casual view".
Plus, just because he's indoors doesn't mean he's hidden. There are loads of places to access that area from, and it is quite high traffic most of the time.
Also, if any one of those guys had been a bit smart about how they went after him, they could have picked him off. Instead the just rush in like total noobs most of the time and get picked off.

Again, as I've said earlier:
Was he playing against some scrubs? Yes.
Was he playing defensively? Yes.
Was he camping? I don't think so.

astronige · 16-04-2010 04:36PM

a nuke impossible to get...OMG i can barely get a UAV lol

shawpower · 16-04-2010 04:47PM

astronige wrote: »

a nuke impossible to get...OMG i can barely get a UAV lol

Try hardline with a shotgun as primary.

I've been running with the Tar and AA12 (extended mags), and both of those guns are so powerful that Stopping Power isn't as important. So I'm using hardline instead. Worked very nicely the other night.

tok9 · 25-04-2010 11:08AM

Finally got my first nuke yesterday.. so many times i was at 23 (using hardline) and someone would just come in behind me.

I did it in Highrise, the the opposite building to that Seananners video. When your facing the building i was in the left and basically took control of that area.. setup claymores, ran around to the back of the area where people can spawn. Kept just jumping into the little reception bit, looked outside towards that long straight.. wait to see if someone passes soon.. if not jump back out and look in to the main part of the building.. they were my tactics really, i've no problem in admitting to doing some camping in that situation.

Used the SCAR with silencer and akimbo G18s with Harriers, Pave Low and Nuke and used Scavenger, Hardline and Ninja

Cossax · 25-04-2010 07:48PM

Got my first 2 nukes last night and today, Afghan and Derailed. Feels good!

Harrier, Chopper Gunner, Nuke. Getting to 7 kills is the hard bit, once your Harrier is in play you're probably going to get the CG and unless it's maybe Skidrow or the enemy are all packing Stingers, you should be gold after that.

potsy86 · 25-04-2010 11:31PM

i got ten nukes took me a week of non stop kickin ass was dyn to get that nuclear emblem thing it was one the most stressful weeks in my life sold it bout two months ago gone back to W@W biggest waste a time really

dirdeen · 26-04-2010 01:46PM

astronige wrote: »

a nuke impossible to get...OMG i can barely get a UAV lol

:eek:

ha ha

MurfyAthea · 14-05-2010 09:51PM

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ditch the acr . too many shots needed to get a kill . try scar if you like your assault rifles. heard their great i just dont like the iron sights on them[/QUOTE]

I think the iron sights are too good on these guns, and the assault rifles overpower>wayyy too easy to kill

Witcher · 14-05-2010 10:04PM

MurfyAthea wrote: »

I think the iron sights are too good on these guns, and the assault rifles overpower>wayyy too easy to kill

If anything AR's are underpowered, lashing 20 rounds from a Scar-H into a lad and he's still alive..show me someone in reality who can survive 20 7.62's and I might differently:pac:

Creasy_bear · 14-05-2010 10:58PM

Blay wrote: »

If anything AR's are underpowered, lashing 20 rounds from a Scar-H into a lad and he's still alive..show me someone in reality who can survive 20 7.62's and I might differently:pac:

youre obviously not hiting him

Witcher · 14-05-2010 11:17PM

Creasy_bear wrote: »

youre obviously not hiting him

Yeah that's obviously it:rolleyes:

The game is ridiculous..it takes an insane amount of rounds from an AR to take people down..you'd be lucky to survive one in reality.

Kirijoleth · 15-05-2010 10:02AM

Blay wrote: »

If anything AR's are underpowered, lashing 20 rounds from a Scar-H into a lad and he's still alive..show me someone in reality who can survive 20 7.62's and I might differently:pac:

Try playing hardcore, you should be able to kill him with 10 bullets instead

sierra117x wrote: »

Flecktarn wrote: »

Right so I'm a pretty decent player not unbelievable but pretty good :pac:

Anywho I decided tonight I'd get my act together and actually bother to get a nuke. My killstreaks are harriers, chopper gunner and nuke, and tbh I completely suck at it, I couldn't even get a harrier strike never mind the other two! I tried domination and team deathmatch but no joy!

It's really hard to get a nuke, so far I've only got three of them. I use the same kill streaks as you, and all my nukes have been done using the ACR (iron sights or acog depending on map), what it lacks in damage it makes up for in accuracy and low recoil, G18 akimbo (yes I'm a noob), marathon pro, stopping power pro and commando pro (so I can fall off high places without dying).

When I get the harrier I hide and see how many people it takes out. If I'm lucky I get chopper gunner and stay hidden and go on a killing spree in that. Obviously more open maps like derail or overgrown in the new stimulus pack are easier to get kills in the chopper. I got the nukes playing team deathmatch and capture the flag, with CTF admitedly it was a bit of camping at various positions a good bit away from the flag (acog comes in handy for that) every four or five kills move positions a bit.

TheVoodoo · 15-05-2010 12:04PM

Tbh, i dont think what weapon you have matters, it's more about knowing the map, and where the enemy is, and not staying in the same area for more than one kill, unless your planting / defusing etc..

I've lost count of how many Nukes i've gotten. I'm on 6th presteige and have met the challege to get 10 per presteige, so it's atleast 70 Nukes.
My top K/S is 42, best game score is 162-5
( this is'nt an in your face post btw, it's an attempt to help )

If your despreate for one, IMO the easiest game mode for them is Demolition, and easiest maps would be Rundown or Estate. My set up usually are Harriers, Chopper gunner ( or pave low ) and Nuke.

Sniping, Sub Machine or AR, All these maps have ample room to manouvre with any of these guns, and they all have a safe spot to use your Chopper/AC130 from. I usually work my way around the map, never stay in the same place for more than one kill, and always keep an eye out for people looking for revenge kills ( they are easy kills for you ).

Demolition is good for a Nuke in the sense that there IS an objective, so people are always working towards getting to that. If you figure out the line that the enemy generally take to get the the objective, its easy pickings with any weapon. Just keep running that line pushing them towards their spawn, but DONT spawn trap them. Thats not good 'cos you'll end up getting destroyed.

Likewise, if your Attacking the objective, the enemy if they are any good, will be protecting the bomb sites. I use a push/pull tactic, in that i rush the site, try kill all there, plant the bomb, and pull back to a safe enough distance, while protecting the bomb, and picking off any body who tries to defuse, while continually changing position. If they get it defused, just repeat the same process.

If anyone wants to add me feel free btw PSN is: Vitamin_kill

sierra117x · 16-05-2010 05:48PM

TheVoodoo wrote: »

If your despreate for one, IMO the easiest game mode for them is Demolition, and easiest maps would be Rundown or Estate. My set up usually are Harriers, Chopper gunner ( or pave low ) and Nuke.

Sniping, Sub Machine or AR, All these maps have ample room to manouvre with any of these guns, and they all have a safe spot to use your Chopper/AC130 from. I usually work my way around the map, never stay in the same place for more than one kill, and always keep an eye out for people looking for revenge kills ( they are easy kills for you ).

Demolition is good for a Nuke in the sense that there IS an objective, so people are always working towards getting to that. If you figure out the line that the enemy generally take to get the the objective, its easy pickings with any weapon. Just keep running that line pushing them towards their spawn, but DONT spawn trap them. Thats not good 'cos you'll end up getting destroyed.

Likewise, if your Attacking the objective, the enemy if they are any good, will be protecting the bomb sites. I use a push/pull tactic, in that i rush the site, try kill all there, plant the bomb, and pull back to a safe enough distance, while protecting the bomb, and picking off any body who tries to defuse, while continually changing position. If they get it defused, just repeat the same process.

i know its a personal choice and there are plenty of worse things that people do in this game (boosting , glitching etc) but i really dont like that whole attitude of going into objective games purely for nukes/good k/d. i played objective games for a while at first and tried to get back into them a few days ago but players like you (again not having a go here so chill you beans) actually ruined it for me . no matter what game i always found myself running into some clown camping a spot watching the flags and doinig absolutely nothing towards the game other than getting kills . now i can understand someone whos guarding their teams flag but there are plenty who sat around grey flags just soaking up the kills and it really wrecks my head . i think if your going to go for nukes better kd etc then play team deathmatch or free for all . if you cant get them there get over it but the other option ruins parts of the game for some people

gerkeo · 17-05-2010 11:24AM

sierra117x wrote: »

i know its a personal choice and there are plenty of worse things that people do in this game (boosting , glitching etc) but i really dont like that whole attitude of going into objective games purely for nukes/good k/d. i played objective games for a while at first and tried to get back into them a few days ago but players like you (again not having a go here so chill you beans) actually ruined it for me . no matter what game i always found myself running into some clown camping a spot watching the flags and doinig absolutely nothing towards the game other than getting kills . now i can understand someone whos guarding their teams flag but there are plenty who sat around grey flags just soaking up the kills and it really wrecks my head . i think if your going to go for nukes better kd etc then play team deathmatch or free for all . if you cant get them there get over it but the other option ruins parts of the game for some people

Spot on sierra117x, it is a pain in the hole when you're in an objective based game mode full of camping boosting bitches just there to up their KDR.

krudler · 17-05-2010 01:09PM

I will admit I've hung around grey flags to get some easy kills to get some air support, but I do position it in a place that will defend the flags. I like playing domination and usually score pretty highly on it, but have less kills, I prefer the defending/attacking dynamics of it instead of legging around aimlessly like its a TDM game. Riot Shield is great for Domination games, its easy to defend flags or throw a c4 pack on the ground in front of one and detonate it as someone runs past. You can also lay traps with scavenger, say you stick a c4 pack at A, as soon as you hear "we're losing A!" announced, detonate c4, easy kill (sometimes double or even triple) and points for defending the objective.

Anyone find it literally impossible to get a nuke?

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