Pure Class....

shay · 13-05-2010 12:56PM #1

As you may have noticed, there is a lot of whinging and bitching about certain perks being used - the main culprit being Commando Pro. Others include Scavenger Pro with noob-tube attachments, OMA etc.

However, i've noticed while playing people complain also about certain attachments - eg. thermal, heartbeat sensor.

This has gotten to a stage now, where people are complaining online about
certain weapons being used.. I heard a guy going mental because a guy from our team was using a Spas, his complaint being "its the best one, you're a noob", and I got stick the other day for leggin it around with a UMP!?

This has lead me to a question, what would the distinguished folks on here classify as a "Pure class", that is to say, what's the "fairest" setup. If everyone used this setup no-one could bitch (probably impossible as they would find summit)...

I was thinking... AK47, machine pistol of sorts, Perk 1 scavenger or bling, Perk 2 anything apart from Stopping Power, Danger Close, and then Perk 3 anything apart from Commando Pro.

Whatcha think?

shawpower · 13-05-2010 01:02PM

It's pointless. Any weapon that becomes popular will then become known as a noob weapon. If you really want to prevent getting called a noob, run with the F2000 Assault Rifle with maybe the Deagle.

Pure stupid stuff. Play with whatever class you like and enjoy the game. Just beat down on the idiots who complain that you killed them with your weapon.

shay · 13-05-2010 01:07PM

Don't get me wrong Shawpower, I accept you'll never please some people, I'm just curious as to what a spotless set up would be is all.

I was slagged for selecting the intervention by a guy from NYC on Wastleland, he asked what I planned on doing with it, going over to a corner and camping, to which I replied, "no, I'm gonna shove it up your h*le"... he got stick from his clan after that

It is funny how rows online can bring ppl back to schoolyard days. I witnessed a row between and american and an english lad... the american was basically telling the English lad he was sh*t (referenced the kill/death ratio) and the English lad replied stating that he was no doubt fat, and kept repeating, talking over him saying "go eat a cheesburger, go eat a cheeseburger, go eat a cheeseburger".... :rolleyes:

Tommy_NDX · 13-05-2010 01:08PM

Thats a tough one. Maybe AK, TMP for the guns. It would probably lead to huge arguments over camo. "Look at the noob with blue tiger lolz."

krudler · 13-05-2010 01:10PM

shawpower wrote: »

It's pointless. Any weapon that becomes popular will then become known as a noob weapon. If you really want to prevent getting called a noob, run with the F2000 Assault Rifle with maybe the Deagle.

Pure stupid stuff. Play with whatever class you like and enjoy the game. Just beat down on the idiots who complain that you killed them with your weapon.

+1million on this, the "noobs only use such and such a gun" thing is ridiculous, its a game, sure nobody likes being killed in a cheap way, but a decent player will adapt and find a way around things, not roar and shout about noobs into the mic. I got called a noob a while back by a guy who was camping in a building on Karachi with a hearbeat sensor on his ACR, I ran around a corner, he shot me, I spawned not too far away, knew he was still there as I could see the top of his head, sent a thumper grenade sailing in the window and then got nothing but abuse for the the rest of the match about being a noob, like sitting in one place with a heartbeat sensor makes you an amazing player:rolleyes: what a buffoon.

Shammy · 13-05-2010 01:12PM

Anyone that kills me is a noob scrub glitchin cheating b@st@rd.

I dont mind getting killed by anything except the noob tube, and unfortunatley one of our own here on boards decided to bring out his tube , with danger close and scavenger last night. Horrific to watch , i shed a tear.

krudler · 13-05-2010 01:15PM

I use the thumper when I need it, but I'm not a "launch a grenade to some random place and hope it hits someone" type,its purely for getting people I know are camping or risky rooms where claymores and someone lying prone with shotties are, and it drives people mental when you revenge kill them with it

I love, love, love killing people on Highrise with it who camp on top of that small building with the big propane tank on it, a few shots at the tank to make the gas come out, then launch a grenade, boom

shawpower · 13-05-2010 01:16PM

Shammy wrote: »

Anyone that kills me is a noob scrub glitchin cheating b@st@rd.

I dont mind getting killed by anything except the noob tube, and unfortunatley one of our own here on boards decided to bring out his tube , with danger close and scavenger last night. Horrific to watch , i shed a tear.

So we're not allowed name and shame the boosters. But the same rules don't apply to Tubers surely???

Shammy · 13-05-2010 01:17PM

shawpower wrote: »

So we're not allowed name and shame the boosters. But the same rules don't apply to Tubers surely???

I wouldnt say his name, although he is looking at this section right now.:D

shay · 13-05-2010 01:20PM

shawpower wrote: »

So we're not allowed name and shame the boosters. But the same rules don't apply to Tubers surely???

Did someone mention Tubers?

Jet Black · 13-05-2010 01:23PM

There will always be this kind of behavior. Trolls of online gaming. I could not give a fuk what they think. I have over 30 messages of abuse from people and it so funny how serious people take losing. All the messages I recieve I just agree with them, it drives them even madder.
I always mute players online as I use heaphone so I can never hear abuse.

krudler · 13-05-2010 01:29PM

Shammy wrote: »

I wouldnt say his name, although he is looking at this section right now.:D

Was it me :P I dont use danger close tho only on my riot shield class for baiting people with the c4 pack, oh the abuse:D they see it as camping, I see it as teaching people to not rush into things

shawpower · 13-05-2010 01:43PM

krudler wrote: »

Was it me :P I dont use danger close tho only on my riot shield class for baiting people with the c4 pack, oh the abuse:D they see it as camping, I see it as teaching people to not rush into things

I wouldn't think so given you're on PS3 and Shammy is on 360. I have my suspicions who it was....

Enigma IE · 13-05-2010 01:53PM

shawpower wrote: »

I wouldn't think so given you're on PS3 and Shammy is on 360. I have my suspicions who it was....

Clive wasn't on last night, Kev doesn't use that setup, it wasn't JC or Malmoe...

Enigma IE · 13-05-2010 01:54PM

Shammy wrote: »

I wouldnt say his name, although he is looking at this section right now.:D

I heard you telling this person you WOULD name and shame him/her on boards.ie today !!

shawpower · 13-05-2010 02:05PM

Enigma IE wrote: »

Clive wasn't on last night, Kev doesn't use that setup, it wasn't JC or Malmoe...

You're ruling out lots of people apart from yourself there Brian.... or should I say Blacky.

Enigma IE · 13-05-2010 02:10PM

shawpower wrote: »

You're ruling out lots of people apart from yourself there Brian.... or should I say Blacky.

Rac1st.

sierra117x · 13-05-2010 03:29PM

Enigma IE wrote: »

Rac1st.

oooh your blacky chan lol . dam you where good at dodgeball last night

Enigma IE · 13-05-2010 03:42PM

sierra117x wrote: »

oooh your blacky chan lol . dam you where good at dodgeball last night

Yes tis me, I just changed my gamertag yesterday

it was Enigma IE. Dodgeball is some craic though.

doncarlos · 13-05-2010 04:33PM

Shammy wrote: »

I dont mind getting killed by anything except the noob tube, and unfortunatley one of our own here on boards decided to bring out his tube , with danger close and scavenger last night. Horrific to watch , i shed a tear.

I'm a noober and proud!

Get some stick about it from my clanmates so enjoy it even more when I pop one of them in the head with it!
I actually have a class I like to call the head wrecker. Got ACR with Noob Tube, Dual G18s, Marathon,Lightweight and Commando Pro. Good to wrack up plenty of kills and to annoy everyone your playing against!

krudler · 13-05-2010 04:59PM

doncarlos wrote: »

I'm a noober and proud!

Get some stick about it from my clanmates so enjoy it even more when I pop one of them in the head with it!
I actually have a class I like to call the head wrecker. Got ACR with Noob Tube, Dual G18s, Marathon,Lightweight and Commando Pro. Good to wrack up plenty of kills and to annoy everyone your playing against!

lol, least you admit it

ardinn · 13-05-2010 07:32PM

Whats dodgeball? Can I play???

NUTZZ · 13-05-2010 07:45PM

ardinn wrote: »

Whats dodgeball? Can I play???

Just make a 18 player private party (groundwar) and pick the map Favela. Get onto the football pitch and start throwing knifes. You are not allowed to shoot, use other equipment or leave the field. The best way to understand is to just watch the video:

anonymous_joe · 13-05-2010 07:50PM

The objection I have to tubing, (something I actually enjoy doing every now and then) is that quite frequently, you won't be killed by someone who saw you, but by someone who fired at a hotspot.

Obviously, the worst for this is Domination, where you've a fair idea of where people will be.

As an example, if anyone's seen that faked 30 second Nuke video, I had a similar enough game on Terminal where two RPGs down towards A about half way through the game got me a predator, which got me a harrier which got me a chopper gunner. All because of speculative play.

Which is dull as fcuk for everyone really. I try not to tube that often now, but it did help me when I was learning to play if I'm honest.

krudler · 13-05-2010 09:37PM

anonymous_joe wrote: »

The objection I have to tubing, (something I actually enjoy doing every now and then) is that quite frequently, you won't be killed by someone who saw you, but by someone who fired at a hotspot.

Obviously, the worst for this is Domination, where you've a fair idea of where people will be.

As an example, if anyone's seen that faked 30 second Nuke video, I had a similar enough game on Terminal where two RPGs down towards A about half way through the game got me a predator, which got me a harrier which got me a chopper gunner. All because of speculative play.

Which is dull as fcuk for everyone really. I try not to tube that often now, but it did help me when I was learning to play if I'm honest.

This, I have absolutely no problem with people who hit me with accurately shot grenades, they're not the easiest thing to judge distance (I'm quite good at it though

) and firing them into windows and small spaces can be really hard sometimes. But its when on certain maps you know people will be at certain places, especially to begin with, take Quarry, why, oh why do people still go to the part at the top of the ramp, where all the explosive barrels are? I've seen people get triple kills 5 seconds into the game by just firing a grenade there as they know people are stupid enough to run there.

MrDippy · 13-05-2010 10:09PM

Shot guns were primarys in MW1 and were weaker than they are now so ye it is unfair to use em. Or you could use commando pro which flys you acros the map and can kill faster than any gun.

Witcher · 13-05-2010 10:29PM

MrDippy wrote: »

Shot guns were primarys in MW1 and were weaker than they are now so ye it is unfair to use em.

You're at a significant disadvantage using a shotgun should someone see you at medium to long range as you have to change back to a primary to engage them. No gun if unfair, everyone has the option to use shotguns..noob tubes..sniper rifles etc etc so it's hardly unfair if someone uses one and kills you.

CORaven · 14-05-2010 12:40AM

Blay wrote: »

No gun if unfair, everyone has the option to use shotguns..noob tubes..sniper rifles etc etc so it's hardly unfair if someone uses one and kills you.

I think you are wrong. The classic Noobtuber spawns, fires, dies, spawns, repeat. I find that these classes die too fast in matches with unlimited respawns and therefore can dish out more potential damage than any non-M203 player can. Furthermore, the grenade launchers do not fire same as any real gun, you can kill people you do not see due to blast radius, arc, etc.
As for CQB, no primary weapon without stopping power or a headshot will kill an enemy, a grenade from any grenade launcher will. The grenades are far too overpowered in so many areas.
If everyone used noobtubes it would be painful to play, completely based on flukes. Kinda like a no-scope only match.

The main people find n00by:
M203s
Danger Close
Thermal
Heartbeat sensors
Commando
Tac Knife

People do not like thermal and h/beats because they do not want to have to be told what perks to have. They take a risk in not using them and do not want to accept the consequences. The main thing here though is the fact that there is an option (depending on level) of countering these attachments through perks.

The 'nades however, while blast shield is there, it is not much use as Danger Close will counteract it. By association with n00bs, DC has got a bad name.

Commando. The ability to swoop over the battlefield into the heart of your enemies, has nothing to counteracting it. Bullets do not work, claymore do not work, nor does common sense. If they have the tac knife, your screwed.

@shay
I have a class that would be seen as a 'pure class' for S&D.
'Power House'
TAR - Holo + Silencer
SPAS-12 - Grip + FMJ
Claymores
Flashes
Bling Pro
SP Pro
SitRep Pro

I haven't got any negative comments on it what so ever. Now if you wanted to remove Stopping power, I recommend changing it to an ACR with cold blooded. However, it will only get 4/5 kills, which in S&D, is grand.

shawpower · 14-05-2010 07:57AM

doncarlos wrote: »

I'm a noober and proud!

Get some stick about it from my clanmates so enjoy it even more when I pop one of them in the head with it!
I actually have a class I like to call the head wrecker. Got ACR with Noob Tube, Dual G18s, Marathon,Lightweight and Commando Pro. Good to wrack up plenty of kills and to annoy everyone your playing against!

You're not using Danger Close, OMA or Scavenger. So I wouldn't have much bother about that class. At least from the noobtoob point of view. Maybe the witching aspect, but you haven't gone for an SMG so aren't as quick as a regular witch.

X AcT X EviL · 14-05-2010 08:33PM

This is my general use class, which I use on most maps for most game types. I don't really see how anyone could have a problem with this, except maybe the throwing knife, but so far as I can tell the throwing knife takes a lot more skill than any of the other equipment to use, so I tend not to listen.

MP5K - Silencer
USP.45 - Silencer
Spec. Grenade - Smoke
Equipment - Throwing Knife
Perk 1 - Sleight of Hand / Marathon
Perk 2 - Stopping Power / Cold Blooded
Perk 3 - Sitrep / Ninja
Death Streak - Copycat

Essentially there is almost nothing in this class that I can see people complaining about, and if you want an assault rifle, I suggest the M4A1 or maybe the F2000 (if you enjoy recoil:p)

sierra117x · 18-05-2010 11:20PM

CORaven wrote: »

I think you are wrong. The classic Noobtuber spawns, fires, dies, spawns, repeat. I find that these classes die too fast in matches with unlimited respawns and therefore can dish out more potential damage than any non-M203 player can. Furthermore, the grenade launchers do not fire same as any real gun, you can kill people you do not see due to blast radius, arc, etc.
As for CQB, no primary weapon without stopping power or a headshot will kill an enemy, a grenade from any grenade launcher will. The grenades are far too overpowered in so many areas.
If everyone used noobtubes it would be painful to play, completely based on flukes. Kinda like a no-scope only match.

The main people find n00by:
M203s
Danger Close
Thermal
Heartbeat sensors
Commando
Tac Knife

People do not like thermal and h/beats because they do not want to have to be told what perks to have. They take a risk in not using them and do not want to accept the consequences. The main thing here though is the fact that there is an option (depending on level) of countering these attachments through perks.

The 'nades however, while blast shield is there, it is not much use as Danger Close will counteract it. By association with n00bs, DC has got a bad name.

Commando. The ability to swoop over the battlefield into the heart of your enemies, has nothing to counteracting it. Bullets do not work, claymore do not work, nor does common sense. If they have the tac knife, your screwed.

@shay
I have a class that would be seen as a 'pure class' for S&D.
'Power House'
TAR - Holo + Silencer
SPAS-12 - Grip + FMJ
Claymores
Flashes
Bling Pro
SP Pro
SitRep Pro

I haven't got any negative comments on it what so ever. Now if you wanted to remove Stopping power, I recommend changing it to an ACR with cold blooded. However, it will only get 4/5 kills, which in S&D, is grand.

TAR is a glitch gun suprised no one moans about that . not that i am btw i dont care what you use its your choice . but with the TAR your bullets dont loose power over range or with a silencer meaning you do as much damage as you would at 50 yards as you would at 5

Pure Class....

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