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The Iceland Volcano Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭kevin12345


    By the looks of two of the webcams I think another crater is spewing :confused: Not sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19 nadeshade


    Man, meant to be flying to malaga on thursday afternoon, tryin to gauge is its gonna happen... are there any sites to get a wind forecast??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭JustAddWater


    See you there with a bit of luck. I'm heading there next wed! Spain is affected as much as Ireland is/has been. When it's not covering Ireland it's curling back in around portugal/spain! bah!

    Best of luck with flights! :)

    nadeshade wrote: »
    Man, meant to be flying to malaga on thursday afternoon, tryin to gauge is its gonna happen... are there any sites to get a wind forecast??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭dak


    roryc1 wrote: »
    Good evening all, well Eyjafjallajökull is still going strong

    but the real fun is happening underground Seismic tremor have taken a big jump today http://hraun.vedur.is/ja/Katla2009/stodvaplott.html and earthquakes been going strong all day http://en.vedur.is/earthquakes-and-volcanism/earthquakes/myrdalsjokull/

    now as to what all this means i am like most here learning as i go but it sure looks like it's not going to stop anytime soon, and add to it this northenly wind that just wont go away I'm glad i am not flying anywhere soon

    According to the Icelandic met office the increased activity just indicates that lava is still flowing into the mantle.

    The effect of this : a good diagram at this link

    http://www.geology.wisc.edu/courses/g115/volcano/main2.html

    " Rising magma gathers in the magma chamber a few kilometers below the vent. As more magma enters, pressure inside the chamber increases.
    Then, bingo -- an eruption drops the pressure and spreads a mess of hot rock onto the surface. "




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭drymartini


    21.52 - May 10 2010


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭drymartini


    23.04 - May 10 2010


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,803 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    Ya'd never guess where I am

    volcano-2.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭drymartini


    00.43 - 11 May 2010


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭drymartini


    01.11 - 11 May 2010


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭drymartini


    03.54 - 11 May 2010


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭drymartini


    04.41 - May 11 2010


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,845 ✭✭✭jd


    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/ryanair-confirms-volcanic-ash-found-in-engines-of-two-planes-2174970.html
    Meanwhile, air travellers were promised only "minimal disruption" today as it emerged that Irish academics have developed the country's first system of forecasting the dispersion of the ash plume.

    Sophisticated

    The forecasting system developed at NUI Galway is expected to be one of the most sophisticated in Europe.

    The four-day forecasts of plume density and dispersion are currently compiled at least twice a day.

    However, over the next week these will increase to six-day forecasts, four times daily.

    Professor Colin O'Dowd, director of the Centre for Climate & Air Pollution Studies at NUI Galway, behind the new system, said the rapid development of the volcanic plume forecasting system would provide Ireland's own capability of assessment and prediction.


    And something from a facebook (!) wall thread..
    ... next-generation replacement Harmonie, which is higher resolution (Hirlam run at 11km, Harmonie at 2.5-5km, heading for 1km).


    ..Harmonie is currently under quasi-operational mode in Met Eireann, ..ICHEC and Met Eireann R&A (are) debugging it in places, and it is being given to the operational forecasters to evaluate. They're notoriously conservative : after all its their reputations at stake, and it will be 1-2 years before it takes over HIRLAM. Within the Hirlam community in Europe its not the official product yet, but pressure is on to make it a "supported, operational" model before the end of year.

    ...Harmonie is computatationally expensive, so you would run it only over land, that is over Ireland itself. The Hirlam model is currently run both in a 'fine' resolution over Ireland and 'operational' over the whole of the N. Atlantic to Greenland (snow cover on Greenland affects the Irish weather 3 days later). No need to have 1 km resolution over the atlantic, its really only needed over the topography of Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭bamboozle


    jd wrote: »

    where can we see these forecasts? the one's i've been looking at via carlowweather.com dont seem to go any further ahead than 18 hours


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,845 ✭✭✭jd




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭bamboozle


    jd wrote: »

    in the coloured scale of 1 - 8000 what level exceeds tolerated levels for aircraft is it once it goes into the black?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,845 ✭✭✭jd


    bamboozle wrote: »
    in the coloured scale of 1 - 8000 what level exceeds tolerated levels for aircraft is it once it goes into the black?
    I don't Know!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19 nadeshade




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭jd83


    I have a flight tommorrow morning ( Wednesday). Dublin to bratislava .How are my chances of it going ahead. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭bamboozle


    jd83 wrote: »
    I have a flight tommorrow morning ( Wednesday). Dublin to bratislava .How are my chances of it going ahead. :)

    from the models on carlowweather.com Ireland and Eastern Europe look ok for tomorrow.

    In saying that, does anyone know the difference on these model images between FL000 & FL200 and FL200 and FL350?

    the models for FLooo to FL200 seem to be much denser


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    bamboozle wrote: »
    from the models on carlowweather.com Ireland and Eastern Europe look ok for tomorrow.

    In saying that, does anyone know the difference on these model images between FL000 & FL200 and FL200 and FL350?

    the models for FLooo to FL200 seem to be much denser

    Sea level to 20,000 feet, 20,000 feet to 35,000 feet IIRC.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭bamboozle


    Jumpy wrote: »
    Sea level to 20,000 feet, 20,000 feet to 35,000 feet IIRC.

    thanks, from this then it would appear the density of the plume is much lighter/reducing over 20,000 feet.
    read somewhere else the quantity of ash coming from the volcano has dropped from 300-400 tonnes per second last thursday to about 50 tonnes per second today.

    hopefully these are signs the volcano will be calming down


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,663 ✭✭✭JoeyJJ


    Anyone hazzard a guess at airports status over the weekend? Dublin, Knock and Liverpool being the ones i'm in interested in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    bamboozle wrote: »
    300-400 tonnes per second

    :eek:

    Thats how much was coming out? That is insane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭dak


    The volcanic ash tolerance level set by the CAA is a concentration of 0.002 grams per cubic metre at regular cruise altitudes. Any airspace with a greater ash concentration is a no-fly zone.

    This is the limit but not sure how that is interpreted in the graph!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭ch750536


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/8674226.stm

    'A Ryanair said: "After take-off cabin crew noticed an acrid smell and standard procedure was followed and the aircraft turned back and landed."
    All 154 passengers disembarked safely at about 0730 BST.
    Passenger Andy Patterson said: "There was a slight delay before the flight as they were checking out the engines.
    "Slightly after take-off there was a distinct smell of fumes in the cabin. A short while later the pilot came over the tannoy and said we would return to Belfast as a precautionary measure," he added.'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    ch750536 wrote: »
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/8674226.stm

    'A Ryanair said: "After take-off cabin crew noticed an acrid smell and standard procedure was followed and the aircraft turned back and landed."
    All 154 passengers disembarked safely at about 0730 BST.
    Passenger Andy Patterson said: "There was a slight delay before the flight as they were checking out the engines.
    "Slightly after take-off there was a distinct smell of fumes in the cabin. A short while later the pilot came over the tannoy and said we would return to Belfast as a precautionary measure," he added.'


    Heard this on a radio in a shop today; and something re two other planes being taken out of service with ?? ash damage?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭bamboozle


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Heard this on a radio in a shop today; and something re two other planes being taken out of service with ?? ash damage?

    Ryanair spokesman was on RTE saying these planes were back in service within 6 hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    Not ash damage. Ash detection.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,971 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Looking at the Yr.no model it looks like Ireland will be covered on Thursday/Friday. Is this consistent with other models and will the airports most likely be shut during this period (have a return flight Thursday evening)?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭alibabba


    Dyflin wrote: »
    Looking at the Yr.no model it looks like Ireland will be covered on Thursday/Friday. Is this consistent with other models and will the airports most likely be shut during this period (have a return flight Thursday evening)?

    If that graph is even half accurate, we are looking at complete irish airspace shutdown thursday morning

    And looking at live feed, she is still going full pelt !


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