Advertisement
Help Keep Boards Alive. Support us by going ad free today. See here: https://subscriptions.boards.ie/.
https://www.boards.ie/group/1878-subscribers-forum

Private Group for paid up members of Boards.ie. Join the club.
Hi all, please see this major site announcement: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058427594/boards-ie-2026

Ban on elderly driving

2456

Comments

  • #32
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Thread summary:

    I blame:
    Drivers older than me
    Drivers younger than me
    Drivers with bigger vehicles than me
    Drivers with smaller vehicles than me
    Drivers who are the opposite gender to me
    Drivers who are of different nationality to me
    Drivers who are from bigger cities than me
    Drivers who are from smaller villages than me
    Drivers with a different licence status to me
    Drivers who go faster than me
    Drivers who go slower than me

    etc etc etc (you get the general idea)


  • #33
    Basq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,496 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Just ban drivers from driving tbh!


  • #34
    JONJO THE MISER
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Load of B.S, maybe the O.P lives in dublin and doesnt think of people in the country who are old and the car is there only means of transport. Load of bollocks thread.


  • #35
    Ri_Nollaig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭Ri_Nollaig


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    By that logic we should ban all drivers with the possible exception of the ambulance/fire brigade

    Read back up, I was been sarcastic and I was quoting someone who did agree with a measure like this, which I can't stand. Any time some stupid measure is brought in, it is often defended with the blind argument "if it saves one life it is worth it". This seems to be used everywhere, from road safety to the banning of head shops. I think its laughable the idea of banning anyone over 75 just as it is banning anyone under 25...
    Abrasax wrote: »
    The use of ':pac:' in relation to elderly deaths is quite flippant and typical of the sickminded attitudes one regularly encounters here on AH.

    Good for you, perhaps one should avoid this forum in the future so; or maybe the entire internet. ... :pac:


  • #36
    fonecrusher1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,984 ✭✭✭fonecrusher1


    The thing is if you're going to start talking about banning certain groups of people for the safety of motorists then lets face it under 21's with provisionals would get the chop first. Then mabye the over 80's.


  • Advertisement
  • #37
    Captain Slow IRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,651 ✭✭✭Captain Slow IRL


    PogMoThoin wrote: »
    How about they make all over 40's re-sit a driving test, and do it every 10 yrs.

    Some of these have no idea how to drive, the bigger and wider the road, the worse the driving You encounter. They all think they can drive, just because its a big wide road. I see lots of clueless drivers everyday driving at half the speed limit, hogging the white line, or even worse driving completely in the hard shoulder because they can't keep up with the pace of things. Get them off the roads. Farmers in clapped out pieces of shít are the worst offenders.

    +1

    For the proportion of elderly drivers (I meet anyway) is way too low to make any serious impact on deaths. Bad driving isn't a characteristic of age or sex - there's just so many of them, it's hard not to label and stereotype.

    When I was doing my Ignition course, the instructor told us about thousands of indemnity licenses issued in Ireland to provisional license holders in the 80's (open to correction!) to make the figures look better - so there's thousands of people on Irish roads who never had to do any work to get their license:rolleyes:


  • #38
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    galwayrush wrote: »
    He'll be making the Greens happy with one less car on the road, bet he'll get over it once he realises that.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
    I am sure those that will be put off the road will be entitled to free taxi concessions.

    What about collecting pensions at the post office, getting perscriptions and in my old mans case vsiting his missus in hospital.


  • #39
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Abrasax wrote: »
    The use of ':pac:' in relation to elderly deaths is quite flippant and typical of the sickminded attitudes one regularly encounters here on AH.
    :pac:


  • #40
    Hyperbullet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭Hyperbullet


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    They already need to do a medical every year.

    If an elderly person has passed a medical and is deemed fit to drive, why stop them?
    old_aussie wrote: »
    Then ban everyone under 25 from driving

    A totally ridiculous notion. Were you not a learner once yourself? All this would lead to is a bunch of inexperienced 26-30yr olds on the road.

    If you want to save lives, put a speed limiter into cars for people under 23. Thats 5 years of experience of having to go no more than 100kmph for example. Also a ban on anyone under 23 owning a car with an engine size of more than 1.4L. Too many young people getting hurt in these cheap jap imports that have engines too powerful for Irish roads.


  • #41
    PCPhoto
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    By that logic we should ban all drivers with the possible exception of the ambulance/fire brigade

    have you seen the way they drive :eek:

    What we need is an overhaul of the system:
    -flat rate insurance
    -restrict new drivers to 1L engines for first 2yrs
    -restrict drivers under 5yrs to max 1.4L engines
    (any crashes in first 5yrs - return to start - restricted to 1L)

    give optional retests every 2yrs - passing retest means drop in insurance
    passing 5 retests in a row means insurance premiums drop to a maximum of €100-€200.

    failing a retest allows the driver to return to restricted driving point (ie. after 7yrs driving ....fail retest - return to max 1.4limit, after 9yrs driving ....fail retest loose retest insurance - return to 5yr point and start again)

    wild stab at figures:
    Restricted (2yrs) - €1200 per yr
    Restricted (<5yrs) - €850 per yr
    unrestricted (>5yrs) = €700 per yr
    retest pass - drop €100 per year.

    after 5 retests (which means approx 10-12yrs of safe driving) - insurance premiums at an all time low: (mandatory every 5yrs retest to ensure driver ability)
    ALSO : driving convictions database linked to Motor Tax/Motor Insurance database office - serious traffic offences punished by courts.

    as for elderly drivers: if they are capable of driving at the speed limit they are entitled to drive.


  • Advertisement
  • #42
    Ahoy!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭Ahoy!


    old_aussie wrote: »
    Then ban everyone under 25 from driving

    We might aswell ban people from driving alltogether then. Shur that'll save hundreds of lives. What this country needs is more guards on the roads and a completely new procces of getting the drivers license. Driving tests are very easy compared to my home country, where you need to do a compulsory course and a series exams which costs a fortune, and if you fail three times, you have to go through the whole procces again. Therefore the insurance premiums are 5 times less than in Ireland because its much harder to get the license. It makes sense when you think about it.


  • #43
    irishguy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,314 ✭✭✭irishguy


    How about they make people sit a test every 10 years, which would bring up the standard of driving on the roads. It doesnt have to be as stringent as the original test, but would get people used of new things on the road i.e. 3 lane motorways, bus lanes,luas etc ..

    banning a particular group of people is stupid, but people in their 70s should have to sit a test every 5 years or less. As a lot of them are a danger on the road.


  • #44
    PCPhoto
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    Ahoy! wrote: »
    We might aswell ban people from driving alltogether then. Shur that'll save hundreds of lives. What this country needs is more guards on the roads and a completely new procces of getting the drivers license. Driving tests are very easy compared to my home country, where you need to do a compulsory course and a series exams which costs a fortune, and if you fail three times, you have to go through the whole procces again. Therefore the insurance premiums are 5 times less than in Ireland because its much harder to get the license. It makes sense when you think about it.

    but do you have a proper public transport system back home?

    I agree that the licence should be a privilage - but theres plenty of people in rural ireland who require a vehicle to get to the local shop...and making it financially difficult to get a licence will only result in people driving without licences.


  • #45
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Captain Slow IRL wrote: »
    When I was doing my Ignition course, the instructor told us about thousands of indemnity licenses issued in Ireland to provisional license holders in the 80's (open to correction!) to make the figures look better - so there's thousands of people on Irish roads who never had to do any work to get their license:rolleyes:

    It was actually the late seventies.

    And lets not forget the thousands of drivers who got their licences before the introduction (in the mid 1960's) of the driving test. Including the current chairman of the RSA :rolleyes:


  • #46
    dermothickey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 489 ✭✭dermothickey


    people should be thought the 3c's courtesy, care, consideration.


  • #47
    Ri_Nollaig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭Ri_Nollaig


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    It was actually the late seventies.

    And lets not forget the thousands of drivers who got their licences before the introduction (in the mid 1960's) of the driving test. Including the current chairman of the RSA :rolleyes:
    he might be getting banned soon!

    ha


  • #48
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Ri_Nollaig wrote: »
    he might be getting banned soon!

    Hardly

    Not even the current government would be stupid enough to go along with this proposed measure as they know it would adversly affect the handful of people still prepared to vote for them.


  • #49
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    It was actually the late seventies.

    And lets not forget the thousands of drivers who got their licences before the introduction (in the mid 1960's) of the driving test. Including the current chairman of the RSA :rolleyes:
    I believe they were called cowboy licenses at the time.

    I missed them by months, at the time the UK wanted to ban anyone holding a Irish license dating that period from UK roads.


  • #50
    fergiesfolly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,673 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    My Dad is in his 70s and NEEDS his car. Yes, if does drive slower than when he was younger but his driving is as safe as most. Put yourself in there position and see how you'd cope with a ban because of your age and not ability. .


  • #51
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    In Kerry I've seen more people driving like 75 year-olds than actual 75 year-olds driving. Some people are scared sh1tless of doing above 60kmph on any roads, even 100kmph ones.


  • Advertisement
  • #52
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    bubbleking wrote: »
    The Road Safety Authority (RSA) is set to announce a blanket ban on anybody over the age of 75 driving a vehicle on a public road.

    Nothing to back up the claim bubbleking.

    But if true, it will be another nail in the coffin of country living.

    I notice there is no mention of a four horse drawn carriage......... so motor on grandad and cause as much damage with that as you can.


  • #53
    Ri_Nollaig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭Ri_Nollaig


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Hardly

    Not even the current government would be stupid enough to go along with this proposed measure as they know it would adversly affect the handful of people still prepared to vote for them.
    True, this story is obvliously bullsh.it; considering the source is "a friend working for the RSA told me".

    But on a serious note, it is the kinda thinking that does get thrown out there and it doesn't just apply to road safety. I really won't be surprised if they had actually considered a measure like this or even on the opposite end rising the min age.
    And anyone who doesn't get directly affected by it will have no problem in agreeing with it.


  • #54
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Ri_Nollaig wrote: »
    And anyone who doesn't get directly affected by it will have no problem in agreeing with it.

    Pretty much as per my early summary of thread post ?

    Do people who agree with this measure all plan on availing of Euthanasia come their 70th birthday ?

    If we continue with these blanket bans and restrictions then how long is it before (at the risk of being Godwinesque) they come for you ?


  • #55
    Forest Master
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Forest Master


    Why is everyone discussing this as if it's true?

    I call bullsh*t on the OP. He was fed duff information by his full-of-sh*t mate. I'd put money on it. It's not happening. It's barstool talk.


  • #56
    KamiKazi
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,194 ✭✭✭KamiKazi


    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    If it cuts down on accidents and fatalities then it is a good idea.

    Restricting all vehicles to a top speed of 10km/h would cut down on accidents and fatalities, are you in favour of that?

    The whole "If it saves one life" line is a load of boll0cks.


  • #57
    ottostreet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    Hyperbullet wrote: »
    If an elderly person has passed a medical and is deemed fit to drive, why stop them?



    A totally ridiculous notion. Were you not a learner once yourself? All this would lead to is a bunch of inexperienced 26-30yr olds on the road.

    If you want to save lives, put a speed limiter into cars for people under 23. Thats 5 years of experience of having to go no more than 100kmph for example. Also a ban on anyone under 23 owning a car with an engine size of more than 1.4L. Too many young people getting hurt in these cheap jap imports that have engines too powerful for Irish roads.


    Any link or proof of this? because, in my opinion, thats a load of media-generated bollocks.


  • #58
    galwayrush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,816 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    I am sure those that will be put off the road will be entitled to free taxi concessions.

    What about collecting pensions at the post office, getting perscriptions and in my old mans case vsiting his missus in hospital.

    Yep, it's a pathetic and totaly unpractical rule if it's true.


  • #59
    Mister men
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭Mister men


    Smells like BS to me. So Mr. boy racer can speed around in his **** box whilst people like my old man will have to look for a lift going to the hospital and back every other week?


  • #60
    Minstrel27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    deman wrote: »
    If that's the case then why not raise the minimum age to 21? Stupid idea if you ask me.

    I would agree with your suggestion. Also 1 liter cars for the under 25's.
    old_aussie wrote: »
    Then ban everyone under 25 from driving

    Sure why not.
    KamiKazi wrote: »
    Restricting all vehicles to a top speed of 10km/h would cut down on accidents and fatalities, are you in favour of that?

    Let's do that.


  • Advertisement
  • #61
    Novella
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    This has got to be BS.

    Have you ever actually watched the news? How often do you hear, "An eighty year old man was fatally injured this morning and two passengers are in a critical condition after the car in which they were travelling left the road..."?

    It's more often than not younger drivers who are involved in fatal car collisions.

    Older drivers tend to be more careful, drive a lot slower and while they can be annoying on the roads, personally I wouldn't consider them a danger.


This discussion has been closed.
Advertisement
Advertisement