God Hates Fags

we'llallhavetea wrote: »

you're born gay, you're not born as an alcoholic or an adulterer.

saying homosexuality is a sin is prejudiced.

You are born gay, you are born straight, you are most defly born an alcoholic, or also born an adulterer.


Who you are attracted to, if you have an addictive personality, your likeness to cheat, is all in your DNA.


Being an alcoholic is the most genetic of the lot. I dont think being straight or being gay is hereditary, but alocholism most certainly is.

Bodhisopha wrote: »

Are paedophiles born that way?

i personally think that.. maybe they are.

but lets not forget that there are paedophiles and there are sex offenders.

not all paedophiles will offend.

Einhard wrote: »

We arresting people for prejudice now??

where did I say we were?

dunno if you read the op, but here

Police officers are alleging that he made the remark in a voice loud enough to be overheard by others and have charged him with using abusive or insulting language, contrary to the Public Order Act.

Einhard wrote: »

You didn't say it, but it's what appears to have happened. The man's clearly an idiot, but arresting people lest they cause offence is going too far. And it seems to be happening with increasing regularity across the water.

would you have an issue with someone calling a black person a n****r and being arrested for it?

i wouldn't.

strobe wrote: »

Did he call someone a ni***r, or a f****t or similar? The report seems to say that someone approached him and questioned him in regards to his views on homosexuality, then the cop did the same and he said he beieved it was a sin. Christians clearly believe that homosexual behaviour is a sin. Should he have lied? It's hardly the same as walking up to a gay person or black person ect on the street and hurling insults at them.

i don't know what he said, but he said enough to get arrested.

i hope he didn't get arrested for simply saying homosexuality is a sin.

i'm presuming he said something worse than that, and he apparently said it loud enough for others to hear it.

he was arrested for being abusive or insulting.

i dunno, sleepy, going to bed.

Well in fairness, you shouldn't be prosecuted for having an opinion however crazy it is (and crazy is subjective).
He was asked and he gave his opinion, as stabelgrade said was he expected to lie?
We all have our own opinions and we cant really help having them, its just the way our brains work. If you are inciting its a different story but an opinion is just that, an opinion, they dont mean much really unless you try to get people to act on them

Doc wrote: »

:mad::mad::mad:
It’s absolutely disgraceful that this man was arrested for giving his opinion. True in my view his opinion is nonsense but he has a right to it and the right to express his opinion if he so desires.

If a police officer decides my opinion on abortion, immigration, the war in Iraq or Afghanistan, or any other topic is offensive to them should I be arrested!

England is supposed to be a free democratic society but if this man is charged then it obviously is not.

Freedom of speech should never be sacrificed even if you don’t like what is being said.

what he said.

we'llallhavetea wrote: »

would you have an issue with someone calling a black person a n****r and being arrested for it?

i wouldn't.

The fcuk?

Einhard wrote: »

In the end I think that free speech is a more important, fundamental right, than the right of somebody not to be insulted. I mean, if someone is called a nigger, or a chink, wop, by a stranger on the street, what harm is really done to them?

Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me... right? :rolleyes:

It's a pretty horrible thing to say to somebody, extremely ignorant and has no place in society. There's free speach, and there's being an absolute cnut. What reasons would a person have to say that to somebody exactly? Hardly sharing the love now is it?

They are offended, insulted, shocked of course, but no lasting damage is done to them.

Psychiatrist? Try putting yourself in the shoes of a man/woman that is targeted and racial slurs are used against said person. Think it won't have any lasting effects? Ever? Oh it will, but not in all cases.

So no, I don't think a person should be arrested for casting racial slurs. For one, where does it end? Who decides what slur constitutes an arrestable offence? The offended person? It might be well intentioned, but it would soon begin to erode on free speech, the foundation upon which all our freedoms rest.

There are limits to free speech of course, and if someone was attempting to incite hatred, racial or otherwise, then it would be a different story. There's a thin line however, between inciting hatred and stating an opinion, and I think we have to be very careful not to cross it.

At the very least the person throwing the racial slurs around should be subject to a fine of some sort, not a conviction, although if it were to continue then yea, convict them.

Doc wrote: »

:mad::mad::mad:
It’s absolutely disgraceful that this man was arrested for giving his opinion. True in my view his opinion is nonsense but he has a right to it and the right to express his opinion if he so desires.

If a police officer decides my opinion on abortion, immigration, the war in Iraq or Afghanistan, or any other topic is offensive to them should I be arrested!

England is supposed to be a free democratic society but if this man is charged then it obviously is not.

Freedom of speech should never be sacrificed even if you don’t like what is being said.

Well, there are degrees to which free speech should be practiced, that should not continue to the level of racial slurs or the likes. Speak your mind, but there's no need to be like that to other people, you know?

Einhard wrote: »

People have the right to be absolute cunts if they want to be. And people don't need a reason to be offensive. We can't go locking people up just because we don't like what they're saying.

Not sure where it says it in the constitution that it's my right to be a cnut. I am pretty sure it doesn't say it. If you are a hinderence to other people, then you deserve what you get. Hopefully more people get locked up for spouting their shíte. What's the point in being hateful towards people? Freedom? Fcuk that, that's not freedom, not when a person is imprisoned by your hate.

Well a person would have to be in a fairly fragile mental or emotional state if he needed to consult a psychiatrist because of a few random racial slurs over a lifetime. Phrases such as those mentioned above are merely so many letters, and as long as the intent in uttering them is not to incite hatred against another, or endanger somebody's pyhsical wellbeing, then they should not be criminalised.

It's ok to go around the streets shouting the N word? What reasons do you think a person would have for targeting a person of African decent and using that word? Is it a greeting? To show respect? Love?

A person does not have to be in a fragile mental or emotional state for that to effect him/her. That is nonsense.

It's not about the severity of the punishment. It's about taking away someone's fundamental right to free speech.

What about somebodies fundamental right to live in peace?

Again, who decides what's punishable?

Who normally decides what's punishable?

How do you construct a law that's baed on subjective opinion? I have red hair. I've heard every ginger slur you can think of, and a few more on top of that. You think I should be able to have somebody arrested for any offense they may have caused?

Hell no, everybody knows that gingers should be the exception to the rule

I don't recall gingers being a race though... or am I wrong? That's not a racist term, however ignorant it may seem.