Do you think famous gay men are more accepted than normal gay men?

Dean820 · 03-05-2010 03:16PM #1

Its something I've noticed with one particular person I know and there's probably many others. She tends to actually like gay celebrities and not feel any disgust or hatred towards them but if she saw a gay men on the street then its the opposite. I can't understand it. She knows these celebrities are gay btw, so its not a case of ignorance in that sense.

My name is URL · 03-05-2010 03:18PM

Maybe she's just a twat

Sonnenblumen · 03-05-2010 03:21PM

I know horses have their favorite jockies. Perhaps Mr Ned might know?

Deus Ex Machina · 03-05-2010 03:22PM

Dean820 wrote: »

Its something I've noticed with one particular person I know and there's probably many others. She tends to actually like gay celebrities and not feel any disgust or hatred towards them but if she saw a gay men on the street then its the opposite. I can't understand it. She knows these celebrities are gay btw, so its not a case of ignorance in that sense.

People build up a one sided rapport with celebrities, they feel they know them and therefore they accept things in them which they may not like in others. If she got to know the flamer on the street she would probably like him too, provided he was a nice guy. It is the same with anything, you like George Clooney more than you like John Q Citizen standing at the bus stop because you feel as if you know the former, the latter is a complete stranger.

Thomas828 · 03-05-2010 03:23PM

I'm not sure about that. I had a friend who was pretty homophobic and he hated famous gay men even more than your ordinary bloke who just happened to be gay. It shouldn't matter anyway. They're queer and they're here whether you like it or not.

Abrasax · 03-05-2010 03:23PM

Dean820 wrote: »

Its something I've noticed with one particular person I know and there's probably many others. She tends to actually like gay celebrities and not feel any disgust or hatred towards them but if she saw a gay men on the street then its the opposite. I can't understand it. She knows these celebrities are gay btw, so its not a case of ignorance in that sense.

That's disgraceful, tbh.
I'd be steaming, if I was gay, after reading that.

ddef · 03-05-2010 03:25PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Maybe she's just a twat

I can never get over the amount of smart arse comments people on here make such as this. I'd love to see you act so uppity to the OP in person.

To answer your origional question OP, Ive noticed this too with girls. not about gayness but just the general how "everything the rich and famous do is cool" attitude. for example a girl i know was commenting on how cool "Dappys" neck tattoo is...if he wasnt famous and she saw him on the street she'd be complaining about what a scumbag yer man with the neck tattoo is.

Abrasax · 03-05-2010 03:27PM

ddef wrote: »

I can never get over the amount of smart arse comments people on here make such as this. I'd love to see you act so uppity to the OP in person.

He wasn't saying it to the OP.
He said it about the principle character in the OP's post.

Deus Ex Machina · 03-05-2010 03:30PM

Thomas828 wrote: »

I'm not sure about that. I had a friend who was pretty homophobic and he hated famous gay men even more than your ordinary bloke who just happened to be gay. It shouldn't matter anyway. They're queer and they're here whether you like it or not.

I guess it doesn't apply when somebody is big into homo hating.

They're here, they're queer, get used to it- I love that line. I always imagined that there would be a homo-acceptance promotion on TV and that line would be spoken by a slender gay man with a fiver o'clock shadow wearing only white Y fronts and a space helmet while sitting at a set of drums and playing a slow steading drum beat in a complete stark, badly lit white room with a bit of space travel paraphernalia lying around.

I am not myself gay, just thought it would be cool.

orourkeda · 03-05-2010 03:31PM

Down with this sort of thing

My name is URL · 03-05-2010 03:33PM

ddef wrote: »

I can never get over the amount of smart arse comments people on here make such as this. I'd love to see you act so uppity to the OP in person.

To answer your origional question OP, Ive noticed this too with girls. not about gayness but just the general how "everything the rich and famous do is cool" attitude. for example a girl i know was commenting on how cool "Dappys" neck tattoo is...if he wasnt famous and she saw him on the street she'd be complaining about what a scumbag yer man with the neck tattoo is.

The girls you've described there also sound like celebrity obsessed twats. Nothing uppity about saying that imo, it's merely an opinion formed on the info at hand.. they're hardly nice understanding people if they see celebrities actions as fine but normal people's similar actions as scummy.

It's the same as when people say it's understandable for celebrities to cheat on their spouse, "sure they're rich and it's offered on a plate" <-- Also twatty

Elenxor · 03-05-2010 03:37PM

Deus Ex Machina wrote: »

People build up a one sided rapport with celebrities, they feel they know them and therefore they accept things in them which they may not like in others. If she got to know the flamer on the street she would probably like him too, provided he was a nice guy. It is the same with anything, you like George Clooney more than you like John Q Citizen standing at the bus stop because you feel as if you know the former, the latter is a complete stranger.

No, say it is'nt so:(

ntlbell · 03-05-2010 03:43PM

does she even like the squeaky annoying ones?

SugarHigh · 03-05-2010 03:44PM

Deus Ex Machina wrote: »

I guess it doesn't apply when somebody is big into homo hating.

They're here, they're queer, get used to it- I love that line. I always imagined that there would be a homo-acceptance promotion on TV and that line would be spoken by a slender gay man with a fiver o'clock shadow [POST SHOULD HAVE ENDED HERE] wearing only white Y fronts and a space helmet while sitting at a set of drums and playing a slow steading drum beat in a complete stark, badly lit white room with a bit of space travel paraphernalia lying around.

I am not myself gay, just thought it would be cool.

:eek:

Dudess · 03-05-2010 03:45PM

I think there's an acceptance of camp/flambuoyance as it's non threatening - e.g. Boy George. Anything murkier though (Frankie Goes To Hollywood video for Relax, the TV series Queer As Folk) tends to cause the outrage (nothing like it used to though).

dlofnep · 03-05-2010 03:46PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Maybe she's just a twat

This.

Abrasax · 03-05-2010 03:48PM

Dudess wrote: »

I think there's an acceptance of camp/flambuoyance as it's non threatening

Whatever floats your boat...

monkeyfudge · 03-05-2010 03:48PM

Dudess wrote: »

I think there's an acceptance of camp/flambuoyance as it's non threatening - e.g. Boy George.

Haha.. yes. Nothing threatening about chaining a rent boy to a radiator.

MagicMarker · 03-05-2010 03:57PM

I personally don't discriminate. I hate all gay people.*

*kidding.

Rabies · 03-05-2010 04:00PM

Sonnenblumen wrote: »

I know horses have their favorite jockies. Perhaps Mr Ned might know?

those jockies ride sausages not horses

aDeener · 03-05-2010 04:09PM

funny you should say that op, i know a person who is disgusted by your normal gay person on the street but also by gay celebrities, strange one that......

AnonoBoy · 03-05-2010 04:17PM

Dudess wrote: »

I think there's an acceptance of camp/flambuoyance as it's non threatening - e.g. Boy George.

Jaysus - tell that to yer man he kept chained to the wall of his apartment for a weekend.

Diabhal Beag · 03-05-2010 04:18PM

Famous gay men are more likely to be over-the-top gay men. Most gays are normal people just like you and me.

Deus Ex Machina · 03-05-2010 04:30PM

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Famous gay men are more likely to be over-the-top gay men. Most gays are normal people just like you and me.

A bit more like you.

rovert · 03-05-2010 04:46PM

Easier to laugh at them and stuff rather than think of realities of bum sex and rimming. So yeah

Bodhisopha · 03-05-2010 04:46PM

Abrasax wrote: »

That's disgraceful, tbh.
I'd be steaming, if I was gay, after reading that.

Cleveland steaming?

Abrasax · 03-05-2010 04:50PM

Bodhisopha wrote: »

Cleveland steaming?

Less of that crap, please.

aDeener · 03-05-2010 05:04PM

Abrasax wrote: »

Less of that crap, please.

hehehehe

bnt · 03-05-2010 05:18PM

Do you think you know who's gay or not? It could be your boss, the bloke next to you on the bus, or half the presenters at RTE, but you won't find out unless they want you to know. Do you think it's contagious? Are you so insecure as a man that the idea bothers you? Tough Titty.

I'm getting a little tired of all these "teh gayz" threads here. It shouldn't matter what anyone does, as long as they don't try to do it to you. :cool:

philologos · 03-05-2010 05:34PM

Famous gay men are more accepted than normal gay men.

Sofaspud · 03-05-2010 05:48PM

bnt wrote: »

Do you think you know who's gay or not? It could be your boss, the bloke next to you on the bus, or half the presenters at RTE, but you won't find out unless they want you to know. Do you think it's contagious? Are you so insecure as a man that the idea bothers you? Tough Titty.

I'm getting a little tired of all these "teh gayz" threads here. It shouldn't matter what anyone does, as long as they don't try to do it to you. :cool:

Don't listen to this guy, his name is text-speak for "bent"!

Do you think famous gay men are more accepted than normal gay men?

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