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Serie A Superthread 2009/10

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    He's been fairly average to very poor the last few seasons(since winning the CL in 07 :( )


    Ah now, you're talking crap there, besides injuries he was first pick every game and 99% of the time the best player on the pitch.


    05/06 season 35 league games 14 goals.
    06/07 season 31 league games 8 goals.
    07/08 season 30 league games 15 goals.
    08/09 season 31 league games 16 goals.

    If anything he was far more consistant in his last two seasons.

    Yes he scored 10 goals in europe in the 06/07 season but he was very hit and miss in the league.

    Ricky was Milan's most important player last season by a long, long way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,105 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    Hopefully Inter slip up and Lazio do Roma a favour, but I can't see it happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭RichTea


    Hopefully Inter slip up and Lazio do Roma a favour, but I can't see it happening.

    I wish. It just doesn't happen all that often in Serie A.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭Pinturicchio


    Andrea Agnelli will be the new president of Juventus as of tomorrow.

    This, alledgedly, paves the way for the return of Luciano Moggi in his former role and of Pavel Nedved as manager/director of the youth sector.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,709 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Well, plenty of people in fact are claiming they are in their alongside Man. United and Barca as clear favs. I just happen to disagree.

    Most definitely the best team in Serie A, sign of the times of Italian league. After both those derbies and the clear gulf, Milan can now win and go ahead?

    I mean, to me this all just a sideshow anyway, I'm judging by actually watching them play above all else. Even when they were beating teams and playing at their best in the Serie A, for me, wouldn't have touched United or Barca. But of course, anomalies can happen but I think watching them shows a gulf and leaves them far away from being CL winning material.
    Ush1 wrote: »
    Yep. Hillarious at the certain Serie A experts round here sucking Joses knob cause he beat a shockingingly bad Chelsea in the CL, saying they now are real contenders for the CL.:rolleyes:


    what was that ush1

    I thought so


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,541 ✭✭✭dor83


    Headshot wrote: »
    what was that ush1

    I thought so
    In fairness to ush1, he wasn't the only one who said things like that about Italian football/Inter at the time. At the time when those posts were made I would say that the majority of people who didn't watch Italian football wrote Inter off, I remember the reaction when I said that I thought we would win the CL if we beat Chelsea for example.

    5 more game this season and 5 wins would make us the first Italian team to do the treble if I'm not mistaken. Forza Inter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,709 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    dor83 wrote: »
    In fairness to ush1, he wasn't the only one who said things like that about Italian football/Inter at the time. At the time when those posts were made I would say that the majority of people who didn't watch Italian football wrote Inter off, I remember the reaction when I said that I thought we would win the CL if we beat Chelsea for example.

    5 more game this season and 5 wins would make us the first Italian team to do the treble if I'm not mistaken. Forza Inter.

    i had a discussion with him so that's why im quoting his BS

    i thought inter had a great chance for the CL final and guess what im right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,555 ✭✭✭Gillington


    Camoranesi on his way out of Juve apparantly,never really rated him but I'm sure their could be another season or two in him somewhere,France or England maybe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,490 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Headshot wrote: »
    what was that ush1

    I thought so

    That was me not rating Inter that much, I still don't. They maybe CL contenders now, but they haven't won anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,490 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Headshot wrote: »
    i had a discussion with him so that's why im quoting his BS

    i thought inter had a great chance for the CL final and guess what im right

    Actually, you were the one talking alot of BS. You said league form doesn't conicide with CL form. You said look at AC in 07, I pointed out that their league form did conincide with their CL form.

    As I said before, anomalies happen, and that's all I think that is.:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,981 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Sexy goal from Totti just there.

    Still got it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,709 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    i enjoyed the Roma match, i hope they win the league but i wouldnt expect any help from lazio against inter tomorrow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭RichTea


    Manchester United didn't receive any help from their rivals in the Sky Sports league today. Roma shouldn't expect any either. Inter play Lazio at 7.45pm. There might be some impetus for Lazio though, Atalanta currently lead against Bologna. So the biancocelesti aren't fully safe yet. Come on you horrible gits!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭carlop


    I'd say Totti will be regretting his thumbs - down gesture after the derby. If ever incentive was needed for Lazio not to try, that was it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭RichTea


    carlop wrote: »
    I'd say Totti will be regretting his thumbs - down gesture after the derby. If ever incentive was needed for Lazio not to try, that was it.

    The Lazio fans I have the misfortune of knowing want their team to score an own goal and walk around the pitch showing the 'pollice verso', thumbs down gesture. Sad really, but Totti is a huge antagonist to them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 319 ✭✭jamsieboy86


    Inter are winning 1-0 at half time. Walter Samuel scored just before the half time whistle.

    The Stadio Olimpico erupted with celebration. The Lazio fans were celebrating as if they had scored, very strange sight indeed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,709 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Inter are winning 1-0 at half time. Walter Samuel scored just before the half time whistle.

    The Stadio Olimpico erupted with celebration. The Lazio fans were celebrating as if they had scored, very strange sight indeed.

    they also had a banner saying

    "oh nooo"


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 319 ✭✭jamsieboy86


    Headshot wrote: »
    they also had a banner saying

    "oh nooo"

    Yeah I seen that, very funny.

    Lazio fans hate Roma a lot more than Liverpool fans hate Man Utd, Didn't see the kop celebrating Chelsea's goals like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭RichTea


    That second half was the most disgusting thing I've seen in quite some time. Of course I am slightly biased being a Roma fan but plenty of impartial observers have bemoaned Lazio's despicable efforts tonight as well. Is Serie A still bereft of fairplay?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,827 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    Headshot wrote: »
    they also had a banner saying

    "oh nooo"

    Aw please, I need to see a picture of that :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭RichTea


    Yeah I seen that, very funny.

    Lazio fans hate Roma a lot more than Liverpool fans hate Man Utd, Didn't see the kop celebrating Chelsea's goals like that.

    That's because Liverpool have a history and pride in themselves. :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,563 ✭✭✭kinaldo


    Lazio players were probably afraid of getting lynched if they scored.

    Feel sorry for Roma and Ranieri.

    Since 2006 I just can't take this league seriously.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Anyone who thinks Lazio threw this match is an idiot. they are still in danger of being relegated and they have a lot of injuries and suspensions. Inter were just better than them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭RichTea


    Seaneh wrote: »
    Anyone who thinks Lazio threw this match is an idiot. they are still in danger of being relegated and they have a lot of injuries and suspensions. Inter were just better than them.

    They were not in danger of relegation after Atalanta drew. Did you watch the match? When ever Lazio moved towards goal they were booed by their fans and then just started to pass the ball around aimlessly. I suggest you watch the match before you go about calling people 'idiots'.

    Even the respected sports media over there have said Lazio were uninterested and both Giovanni Lopez and Cristian Brocchi have come out and said that they didn't try at all. http://www.corrieredellosport.it/calcio/serie_a/lazio/2010/05/02-109709/Lopez%3A+«Dopo+il+gol+non+abbiamo+fatto+più+niente»


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,709 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Aw please, I need to see a picture of that :D

    http://lazio.theoffside.com/team-news/oh-nooo.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,541 ✭✭✭dor83


    RichTea wrote: »
    Even the respected sports media over there have said Lazio were uninterested and both Giovanni Lopez and Cristian Brocchi have come out and said that they didn't try at all. http://www.corrieredellosport.it/calcio/serie_a/lazio/2010/05/02-109709/Lopez%3A+«Dopo+il+gol+non+abbiamo+fatto+più+niente»
    That is not what either said, both said that the fans cheering for Inter didn't help the players Lopez said
    Maybe the players were conditioned by the fans. But I will say that the players were only focused on the match, and wanting to win it.
    and Brocchi said
    The atmosphere in the stadium may have conditioned the way we played, but in the first half, we came out with the right spirit, wanting to score.
    If they had thrown the game then Muslera wouldn't have made so many good saves, Koralov, Zarate and Hitzlsperger all played well too. Lazio looked more like the away side last night, which is not really surprising considering the whole stadium was cheering on Inter. You should also remember that Lazio are not a good attacking side anyway, they ave only scored 34 all season and only one team has scored less, Livorno who are bottom of the table.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭RichTea


    dor83 wrote: »
    That is not what either said, both said that the fans cheering for Inter didn't help the players Lopez said and Brocchi saidIf they had thrown the game then Muslera wouldn't have made so many good saves, Koralov, Zarate and Hitzlsperger all played well too. Lazio looked more like the away side last night, which is not really surprising considering the whole stadium was cheering on Inter. You should also remember that Lazio are not a good attacking side anyway, they ave only scored 34 all season and only one team has scored less, Livorno who are bottom of the table.

    Ah come on, they didn't give any effort at all. Those are pretty poorly translate articles from goal.com there. The Lazio fans had a huge effect on this game and Lazio's players pandered to them. They simply weren't bothered. It's no fault of Inter's, I am in no way suggesting that they arranged to play out a win for Inter. What I am saying is that Lazio were happy to lose that match.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/may/03/lazio-roma-inter-serie-a
    http://www.football-italia.net/blogs/sc111.html
    http://www.football-italia.net/blogs/gr87.html

    There are countless journalists and observers who saw what happened and that know that yesterday was a farce. It's not fault of Inter's, it's just the way Serie A is.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    RichTea wrote: »
    They were not in danger of relegation after Atalanta drew. Did you watch the match?


    They still need a point to be safe by my calculations. Udinase will beat them so that means they have to atleats draw with livorno, who have only conceded 23 goals at home and lazio have only won 7 games away this year. They aren't scoring much either.

    I did watch the match, I thought Muslera was probably MOTM, if Lazio weren't arsed why did he break his bollocks trying to keep them in it?

    Zarate went close more than once, Koralov and Hitz weren't far off either.

    Liverpool played just as badly against Chelsea, why don't you go post in the chelsea thread about liverpool handing chelsea the title to spite man u? that's about as likely as it was that Lazio let inter win last night.

    They even brought on Foggia moved Mauri deeper to create width and try and create space for attacks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭RichTea


    Seaneh wrote: »
    They still need a point to be safe by my calculations. Udinase will beat them so that means they have to atleats draw with livorno, who have only conceded 23 goals at home and lazio have only won 7 games away this year. They aren't scoring much either.

    I did watch the match, I thought Muslera was probably MOTM, if Lazio weren't arsed why did he break his bollocks trying to keep them in it?

    Zarate went close more than once, Koralov and Hitz weren't far off either.

    Liverpool played just as badly against Chelsea, why don't you go post in the chelsea thread about liverpool handing chelsea the title to spite man u? that's about as likely as it was that Lazio let inter win last night.

    They even brought on Foggia moved Mauri deeper to create width and try and create space for attacks.

    I happened to watch both matches and I think you'll find that I'm not the only one who will have said that Lazio didn't give an honest account of themselves unlike Liverpool. How likely is it that Atalanta will win their final two matches? Aside from their recent defeats to Inter and Roma, Lazio have been one of the most in form sides in Serie A.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Ledesma denies Lazio rolled over

    From the horses mouth.

    Rocchi was dropped because he told the club he wouldn't score if it meant helping Roma!


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