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Malicious hackers... why do they do it?

  • 30-04-2010 06:34PM
    #1
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭


    Just curious, I know of three sites in that in the last day or two have been taken off the net by hackers in huge concentrated denial of service attacks.

    I know a small few do it for profit, some do it just to see if it can be done but why do some do it just for sheer vandalism reasons? :confused:
    I mean, if they are that clever to get through firewalls, security and are able to change/hack/etc sites and re-do them - why not instead put those brains of their to good use and make a bit more legit money for themselves.

    Just as "thicko" is ripping the phone out of your nearest phone box or knocking seven bells out of someone's car or destroying a bus shelter - what motivates them?
    Is it boredom, jealousy, hatred...etc? I scratch me head sometimes in wonder and thats being honest.

    Why? :confused:


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  • #2
    billybigunz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 925 ✭✭✭billybigunz


    It is good craic ****ing up somebodies day.


  • #3
    indough
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    probably to show that it can be done and to prove they are the ones capable of doing it


  • #4
    pablomakaveli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    It's to compensate for the fact they are virgins with a tiny penis.


  • #5
    epgc3fyqirnbsx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,228 ✭✭✭epgc3fyqirnbsx


    I was actually wondering about this myself lately
    They must be twisted bitter little f*cks no different to common vandals, they just use a different platform
    I came to the conclusion that they have inferioirty complexes in the real world and overcompensate by having superiority complexes in the virtual world, they feel like gods who corrupt and destroy as they choose for the simple fact that they're unhappy in themselves and unwilling to do anything positive about it.
    Thats what I reckon anyways...
    Little pr1cks


  • #6
    dotsman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭dotsman


    pablomakaveli wrote: »
    It's to compensate for the fact they are virgins with a tiny penis.

    Definitely on to something here.

    Also, one does not need to be intelligent to hack into a website. If one has enough spare time (due to lack of friends/partner/hobbies/life), they can quickly learn how to use few tricks/tools to get past most websites' security (most websites only employ very basic security protocols).


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  • #7
    Doyler92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭Doyler92


    Because they can. Honestly.


  • #8
    indough
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    i doubt its that easy to attack a popular website, the easier ones are probably only used for learning and practice

    it's just another weird subculture ill never understand anyway, ive always imagined them as the same type of people who sit at home self-harming while reading twilight


  • #9
    Herb Powell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    Makes me feel like a big man


  • #10
    SugarHigh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    It's probably just for a challenge.

    On the release of the xbox 360 MS claimed it was unhackable so this of course guaranteed it was hacked within months.


  • #11
    m5ex9oqjawdg2i
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    I guess they do it for the craic? Recognition? To do it because they can? I doubt they get any financial reward in most cases. Look at activision, or PS3. Their hardware and software is cracked because the companies sometimes claim "this will never be cracked" etc etc, then somebody says "oh yea? Well i'm going to crack it, however long it takes".

    What were the sites if you don't mind me asking biggins?


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  • #12
    SugarHigh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    pablomakaveli wrote: »
    It's to compensate for the fact they are virgins with a tiny penis.
    The guy who played the main teenager in Dazed and confused was and is a hacker.

    He was a movie star in his teens so I can't imagine he had trouble scoring and I doubt he had an inferiority complex so why was he a hacker?

    I think it's purely for the challenge by breaking the security on something like the Ipod you are effectively going up against a billion dollar companies security division and seeing if you can outsmart them.


  • #13
    R0ot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭R0ot


    Some have political reasons such as the Aussie government sites being nuked by Anonymous for the Aussies proposed 'internet filter'.

    Some due to differences in opinion.

    Some due to misdirected hatred (Estonia net shutdown)

    Some to just get their voices heard, Chinese sites get hit a lot.

    Some just to show off to say "I did this".

    Why does anybody do anything malicious?


  • #14
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Asher Salmon Bugle wrote: »
    What were the sites if you don't mind me asking biggins?
    Ones that can't be posted here as per the rules. :)


  • #15
    Corkfeen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    I used to be involved in the hacking scene. Alot of the hackers are pretty much pissed off teenagers who probably have an element of compensation going on.:D Some hackers are geniuses and enjoy a bit of good old fashioned Mr Burns Destruction.
    But just to point out not all hackers are evil. I know plenty who literally find flaws in the sites and warn the site owner, nice way to make a bit of cash on the side. Some dos attack the crap out of sites because of their agenda (Westboro Baptist Church, Scientology etc....). Too lazy to explain any further. ;)


  • #16
    a5y
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭a5y


    Biggins wrote: »
    Ones that can't be posted here as per the rules. :)

    I don't suppose you could even describe, in the broadest sense, what the sites were? Because when a site goes down alot of the assumptions I make about who did it and why are based on the content of the site.

    For example, if say a politicians site went down in the US and a political site went down in China I'd think very different people for very different reasons were responsible for it. Same goes for warez sites, Twilight fansites whatever.

    I'd even imagine its not beyond the resources of well funded groups of all shapes and sizes to have a site DDOS'ed, if they felt it would benefit them. I'd even bet the hackers have business cards and bizarre job descriptions for such.

    I could be wrong though. Maybe all those movies are well researched theses on the hacker life.


  • #17
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Corkfeen wrote: »
    ...But just to point out not all hackers are evil. I know plenty who literally find flaws in the sites and warn the site owner, nice way to make a bit of cash on the side. Some dos attack the crap out of sites because of their agenda (Westboro Baptist Church, Scientology etc....). Too lazy to explain any further. ;)

    Yea, I get that bit but some are so good at it that genuinely, I think they could make some serious bucks if they put those skills to better use. Thats all.
    I can understand some of the reasons, some others sadly however escape me.
    I guess I'm just old. :(:)


  • #18
    ya-ba-da-ba-doo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 884 ✭✭✭ya-ba-da-ba-doo


    Is anyone elses facebook not working at the moment?


  • #19
    drunkymonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭drunkymonkey


    It's to stick it to 'The Man' !


  • #20
    m5ex9oqjawdg2i
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Kasen Sharp Self-restraint wrote: »
    I was actually wondering about this myself lately
    They must be twisted bitter little f*cks no different to common vandals, they just use a different platform
    I came to the conclusion that they have inferioirty complexes in the real world and overcompensate by having superiority complexes in the virtual world, they feel like gods who corrupt and destroy as they choose for the simple fact that they're unhappy in themselves and unwilling to do anything positive about it.
    Thats what I reckon anyways...
    Little pr1cks

    They are pretty intelligent if you ask me.


  • #21
    indough
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    Biggins wrote: »
    I think they could make some serious bucks if they put those skills to better use. Thats all.

    they probably do that as well as hacking in their spare time


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  • #22
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    billybigunz wrote: »
    It is good craic ****ing up somebodies day.
    Sadly, some day it might be yours. How will one feel about it then?
    One of mine was hacked recently and information stolen for financial reasons - that I get, but doing it and gaining nothing AT ALL!!!
    Strange, just strange.


  • #23
    RoyalMarine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭RoyalMarine


    im glad im going into computer security. Id love to make some of these fúck wit's get what they deserve for this nonsense.


  • #24
    Stench Blossoms
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Stench Blossoms


    Some people are just plain nasty.

    Just trying to show that they are 'the man' etc.

    There is always more money in hacking though.

    Not hacking exactly but what happened in this thread is similar.


  • #25
    a5y
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 945 ✭✭✭a5y


    Biggins wrote: »
    Sadly, some day it might be yours. How will one feel about it then?
    One of mine was hacked recently and information stolen for financial reasons - that I get, but doing it and gaining nothing AT ALL!!!
    Strange, just strange.

    To the right person that information might be more valuable than credit card numbers.

    On the other hand the site might only have been hacked because it used a server with a known vulnerability, and the hacker was really just some 15 year old skiddy who was more or less following a tutorial to try and become a L337 hax0r (Uuugh).


  • #26
    CrazyRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    Biggins wrote: »
    Just curious, I know of three sites in that in the last day or two have been taken off the net by hackers in huge concentrated denial of service attacks.

    I know a small few do it for profit, some do it just to see if it can be done but why do some do it just for sheer vandalism reasons? :confused:

    I do it to make all you noobs realise that you are indeed noobs. Bask in my awesomeness!
    pablomakaveli wrote: »
    It's to compensate for the fact they are virgins with a tiny penis.

    So very true.

    ......hey!:mad:


  • #27
    SugarHigh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,265 ✭✭✭SugarHigh


    Biggins are you involved in associated content and affiliate sites?


  • #28
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    SugarHigh wrote: »
    Biggins are you involved in associated content and affiliate sites?
    No. I have my own fully legit .ie and .com sites.


  • #29
    dsmythy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,588 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    What sites have been hit recently?


  • #30
    epgc3fyqirnbsx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,228 ✭✭✭epgc3fyqirnbsx


    Asher Salmon Bugle wrote: »
    They are pretty intelligent if you ask me.

    I have no doubt they are very intelligent


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  • #31
    Keano
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    Some do it just to be a pain in the ass!

    But like everything else there is a financial element towards it. For instance, a hacker will send a email to a website saying if we do not get X amount of cash within in said hours we will take your wesbite down. A lot of companies will pay as they cannot afford to have their site down. Failure to pay could result in the hackers taking the site down and the website losing lots of money and customers.


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