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DTT Commercial Multiplexes (was OneVision, Boxer etc...)

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 956 ✭✭✭endakenny


    icdg wrote: »
    It isn't a case of not being able to recieve satellite, rather, its that you aren't allowed satellite dishes in the majority of apartment complexes and certain managed estates. This is written into people's leases and they can't change them.
    Why is there a prohibition on satellite dishes in these leases?


  • Posts: 22,785 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Perhaps because a cosy deal has been done with a cable company or a satellite installer...

    Apartments usually in Britain or Europe in towns and cities can put up dishes no problem and do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭scath


    No word in the papers today. That's probably a good omen that negotiations are on-going between One Vision and the BAI and RTÉ NL in an effort to agree compromise fees. I suspect we may not hear much then until later this week at which point the BAI will either announce agreement has been reached and contracts signed, or agreement unachievable and offer issued to Easy TV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,067 ✭✭✭slegs


    scath wrote: »
    No word in the papers today. That's probably a good omen that negotiations are on-going between One Vision and the BAI and RTÉ NL in an effort to agree compromise fees. I suspect we may not hear much then until later this week at which point the BAI will either announce agreement has been reached and contracts signed, or agreement unachievable and offer issued to Easy TV.

    Or maybe there is last minute scrambling to save a lost cause instead of biting the bullet and admititng failure. Either way I would prepared to be underwhelmed by whatever announcement they make.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,902 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    scath wrote: »
    I suspect that the BAI have communicated to One Vision their response to One Vision's views and that on Monday it will be confirmed publicly the situation if its a license return. I suspect in the indo tomorrow we'll hear something...the question is are they being given another week to agree a compromise on all issues and whose position do the BAI agree with...I suspect it'll be One Vision gone, Easy TV awarded 26th May: Will they launch? But we have to wait and see lol. Sure its probably in the interest of RTÉ NL not to budge as they're probably at the cusp of a license offer. That really throws up conflict of interest apparently mightn't it!

    This From the Indo on Saturday:
    "Eircom's commercial television One Vision consortium has made a final plea to the BAI to intervene in its long-running contracts row with RTE's network division. One Vision has now told the regulator that the independant adjudicator should have made recommendations on how negotiations could progress. The Authority is expected to discuss One Vision'slatest contributionat a meeting early next week"

    Methinks nothing will happen anytime soon. From reading the above, the implication is there that the legal route is alive for One Vision.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,461 ✭✭✭✭watty


    You make Onevision sound like SCO group (previously Caldera).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭scath


    This From the Indo on Saturday:

    Just looking for the article..didn't see it there...is it the Ireland on Sunday ya mean?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,352 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    scath wrote: »
    Just looking for the article..didn't see it there...is it the Ireland on Sunday ya mean?

    It's in the Saturday print edition, Business section page 16.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,352 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Priority question time for Eamon Ryan yesterday in the Dáil, routine answers except for a mention of HD on the second PSB multiplex. Nothing about the recent developments between OneVision and the BAI.
    Broadcasting Legislation.

    48. Deputy Simon Coveney asked the Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources the plans he has in place to facilitate the roll out of commercial digital terrestrial television, DTT, should the consortium (details supplied) fail to reach agreement with RTE and the broadcasting regulator.

    Deputy Eamon Ryan: Part 8 of the Broadcasting Act 2009 provides for RTE to develop a free-to-view digital broadcasting service as a replacement for the national analogue television service offering access to RTE 1, RTE 2, TV3 and TG4 and for the subsequent closure of the national analogue television service.

    The Act also provides opportunities for the development of a commercial digital terrestrial television, DTT, service. The Broadcasting Authority of Ireland, BAI, an independent regulatory authority, is required to provide for the development of commercial DTT services.

    The BAI’s predecessor, the Broadcasting Commission of Ireland, BCI, initiated a competition for a commercial DTT service provider. The highest placed consortium withdrew from the process in April 2009. As a result, negotiations commenced with the next placed bidder, OneVision, which are still ongoing.

    As stated in earlier replies to this question, I am not prepared to speculate or hypothesise on the outcome of what is a commercial licensing process which is a matter for the independent regulator, the BAI.

    I have made it clear to the authority that I would like to see this process concluded as soon as possible so that clarity and certainty with regard to commercial DTT can be provided to broadcasters and viewers alike. However, the legislation does not provide for a role for me, as Minister, in the competition process for a commercial DTT service.

    My priority, in accordance with national policy is to provide for the closure, in 2012, of the analogue free-to-view broadcasting service. The European Commission has set 2012 as the timeline for analogue switch-off across Europe and the Council of Ministers has asked member states to complete switch over by 2012 in so far as possible. It is my intention that this switch off will be no later than the last quarter in 2012. RTE is aware of this and is supportive of the deadline for analogue switch-off.

    In this regard, and in the continuing absence of commercial DTT, I recently signed an order, SI No. 85/2010, RTE (National Television Multiplex) Order, under section 129 of the Broadcasting Act 2009 requiring RTE to launch a free-to-view DTT service to approximately 90% of the population by 31 October 2010.

    The 2009 Act also requires RTE to provide the full national free-to-view digital service, capable of carrying RTE 1, RTE 2, TG4 and TV3, by the end of 2011, or such date as I may specify. I have informed RTE the date for the provision of a national service is 31 December 2011.

    Additional information not given on the floor of the House

    From a broadcaster perspective, the development of DTT services provides more for television viewers in terms of choice and services. The RTE multiplex has sufficient space for eight to ten TV channels, radio channels and electronic programme guides and the legislation provides for RTE to exploit space on the multiplex for commercial purposes. A second RTE multiplex, provided for under the 2009 Act, provides for RTE to roll out high definition, HD, services which will also be made available to TV viewers in Ireland on a free-to-view basis.

    More significantly, there are considerable economic benefits for Ireland resulting from the switch off of the analogue broadcast services and the consequent release and reuse of this valuable spectrum, which is know as the digital dividend. The digital dividend is a clear enabler of economic and social growth. By extrapolating from a recent European study, the value of the digital dividend to Ireland is expected to be between €2 billion and €10 billion, over 15 years. In this regard, it is vital for Ireland’s economic health that this spectrum is released as early as possible.

    Deputy Simon Coveney: I raised this issue more than a year ago because I was concerned the tendering process to provide a commercial DTT service was collapsing, following the pull-out of Boxer which had won the competition. I am not asking the Minister to interfere with the competitive tendering process. However, will he recognise the tendering process put in place two years ago to ensure a commercial DTT operation and to facilitate the viability of a free-to-air service will not achieve this?

    It is my understanding the negotiations between OneVision and RTE have broken down.

    An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Does the Deputy have a question?

    Deputy Simon Coveney: Please allow me to finish because this is important. The Minister bluffs every time he is asked this question, claiming he has no responsibility in the matter, and just sets the date for when RTE must do the business.

    The first and second chosen bidders are out of the equation.

    Deputy Noel J. Coonan: They are gone.

    Deputy Simon Coveney: The remaining and only other bidder involves RTE itself.

    When does the Minister intend to intervene to put a new policy structure in place to get commercial DTT multiplexes up and running? Will he continue to let the BAI handle the process while he takes a hands-off approach when everyone involved concedes it is collapsing?

    Deputy Eamon Ryan: The legislation passed by this House gives the BAI that task. Yes, I would like to go back to 2006 and change the legislation


    Deputy Simon Coveney: It is the tendering process I am raising.

    Deputy Eamon Ryan:
    but one cannot undo legislation is such a manner. It is not appropriate for the Minister to ignore the legislation and the authority the BAI has to implement the task set out for it. When it is unable to complete the task and decides what the process should be, I will happily look at taking other action. It would not, however, be appropriate for me to ignore the legislation in the middle of a process which has large commercial implications by taking over the role given to the authority by this House four years ago.

    Deputy Simon Coveney: The Minister is saying that the process he set up through legislation

    Deputy Eamon Ryan: It was set up by the previous Government.

    Deputy Simon Coveney: Yes, but the legislation in question is now the Minister’s responsibility.

    The first two preferred bidders in the tendering process established by the legislation are out of the game. Will the Minister confirm he expects the BAI to move on to the third best bidder? It may not have been a chosen operator at all but, because it was the last man standing, it could potentially be the next operator of commercial multiplexes. That is not the way to roll out digital television. The Minister needs to ask the BAI if it is satisfied that it has exhausted the tendering process set up by the previous Government and how it should deal with the matter as time is running out. At what stage will the Minister have that meeting or will he continue to keep his head in the sand while the system collapses?

    Deputy Eamon Ryan: I have had a series of meetings with all parties involved on the State side including the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland, the Networks company and ComReg, which has had a role in this on the spectrum side. At all stages I have done that on the basis of trying to get an outcome. I regret that that outcome has not come quicker and that the negotiations have taken so long. I have said that repeatedly in the House. However, my response cannot be to get involved in the middle of what could be a difficult legal and commercial process. That would only draw it out longer. I have said to all parties at a certain point that when it comes down to the commercial negotiations it is up to the BAI, RTE and the other parties to work through that. It would be wrong and improper if the Minister took on the negotiating position. It must follow the legislative course and if that comes to an end, we will act but we have made it clear that regardless of that process the switch off will occur at the end of 2012. That is certain, and that gives me confidence that we will get an outcome that will work.

    Deputy Simon Coveney: There is no market for DTT without a commercial service.

    Deputy Eamon Ryan: I am deeply unsatisfied with the delays that occurred but that is the difficult commercial world we live in and I would not make that any easier by stepping inside

    Deputy Simon Coveney: There is no market for DTT without a commercial service. The Minister knows that.

    Written answers
    Broadcasting Services.

    65. Deputy Mary Upton asked the Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources if he will provide an update on digital terrestrial television here; when he expects the signing of the contract with a consortium (details supplied); the concerns he may have if the delays in implementing DTT continues; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [16629/10]

    67. Deputy Olivia Mitchell asked the Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources his plans to facilitate the roll-out of commercial digital terrestrial television services should a consortium (details supplied) fail to reach agreement with RTE and the regulator. [16623/10]

    Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources (Deputy Eamon Ryan): I propose to take Questions Nos. 65 and 67 together.

    Part 8 of the Broadcasting Act, 2009 provides for RTÉ to develop a “free-to-view” digital broadcasting service as a replacement for the national analogue TV service currently offering access to RTÉ 1, RTÉ2, TV3 and TG4 and for the subsequent closure of the national analogue TV service. The Act also provides opportunities for the development of a commercial digital terrestrial television (DTT) service in Ireland. In this regard, the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland (BAI), an independent regulatory authority, is required to provide for the development of commercial DTT services.

    The BAI’s predecessor, the Broadcasting Commission of Ireland (BCI), initiated a competition for a commercial DTT service provider. The highest placed consortium withdrew from the process in April of last year. As a result negotiations commenced with the next placed bidder, OneVision. These negotiations are still ongoing. As I have stated in this House in reply to previous questions on this matter, I am not prepared to speculate or hypothesise on the outcome of what is a commercial licensing process. This is a matter for the BAI. I have repeatedly made it very clear to the Authority that I would like to see this process concluded as soon as possible so that clarity and certainty with regard to commercial DTT can be provided to broadcasters and viewers alike.

    My priority, in accordance with national policy, is to provide for the closure, in 2012, of the analogue “free-to-view” broadcasting service. The European Commission has set 2012 as the timeline for analogue switch off throughout Europe and the EU Council of Ministers has asked Member States to complete switch over by 2012 in so far as possible. It is my intention that this switch off will be no later than quarter four 2012. RTÉ is aware of this and is supportive of the quarter four 2012 deadline. In this regard, and in the continuing absence of commercial DTT, I have recently signed an Order, Statutory Instrument 85 of 2010, under section 129 of the Broadcasting Act, 2009 requiring RTÉ to launch a “free-to-view” DTT service to approximately 90% of the population by 31st October 2010. The 2009 Act also requires RTÉ to provide the full national “free-to-view” digital service, capable of carrying RTÉ 1, RTÉ 2, TG4 and TV3, by the end of 2011 or such date as I may specify. In this regard I have informed RTÉ that the date for the provision of a national service is 31st December 2011.

    From a broadcaster perspective, the development of DTT services provides more for TV viewers in terms of choice and services. The RTÉ multiplex has sufficient space for 8-10 TV channels, radio channels and electronic programme guides and the legislation provides for RTÉ to exploit space on the multiplex for commercial purposes. A second RTÉ multiplex, provided for under the 2009 Act, provides for RTÉ to roll out high definition (HD) services which will also be made available to TV viewers in Ireland on a “free-to-view” basis. More significantly, there are considerable economic benefits for Ireland resulting from the switch off of the analogue broadcast services and the consequent release and reuse of this valuable spectrum, which is known as the digital dividend. The digital dividend is a clear enabler of economic and social growth. By extrapolating from a recent European study, the value of the digital dividend to Ireland is expected to be between €2 billion and €10 billion, over 15 years. In this regard, it is vital for Ireland’s economic health that this spectrum is released as early as possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭BoredNaMoaner


    Call me cynical, but I am pessimistic about any kind of DTT rollout in October 2010, Ministerial instruction or not. Where is the national campaign? Where is the government PR launch of a soon to be available national service, evidence of the impeding smart economy? I don't see any. Come October I expect Eamon to kick it down the road another 6 months, but of course it will be issued with the guarantee we're still on target for ASO 4Q 2012!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,882 ✭✭✭pa990


    october is probably when the advertising of the dtt system will start.
    No point in promoting something that doesn't (officially) exist


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭BoredNaMoaner


    No, and one of the practical reasons the Government are not going to make it public is because of uncertainty of the specification of a commercial DTT compatible STB , if there is going to be a commercial DTT provider their input is essential to developing and marketing it. And since the government itself is unsure of who that exactly will be (if anyone!) they will not move alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭carrolls


    By extrapolating from a recent European study, the value of the digital dividend to Ireland is expected to be between €2 billion and €10 billion, over 15 years.:D

    Take the lowest figure, €2 billion, thats €133 million per year.
    How can that be achieved with 150,000 households paying €0 -€15 per month? If commercial DTT takes off, which is highly unlikely, the top dividend for the taxpayer will be in the low millions. Less than €5 million P/A after the commercial operator takes its cut.
    He must be thinking of using the spare bandwidth for services other than broadcasting. Ryan is away with the fairies.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,067 ✭✭✭slegs


    carrolls wrote: »
    By extrapolating from a recent European study, the value of the digital dividend to Ireland is expected to be between €2 billion and €10 billion, over 15 years.:D

    Take the lowest figure, €2 billion, thats €133 million per year.
    How can that be achieved with 150,000 households paying €0 -€15 per month? If commercial DTT takes off, which is highly unlikely, the top dividend for the taxpayer will be in the low millions. Less than €5 million P/A after the commercial operator takes its cut.
    He must be thinking of using the spare bandwidth for services other than broadcasting. Ryan is away with the fairies.:rolleyes:

    The monies mentioned for the digital dividend are achieved by licensing the freed up spectrum from ASO to mobile telephone operators for services like 4G (LTE or Wimax etc). It has nothing to do with the commercial revenues from DTT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,352 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    carrolls wrote: »
    By extrapolating from a recent European study, the value of the digital dividend to Ireland is expected to be between €2 billion and €10 billion, over 15 years.:D

    Take the lowest figure, €2 billion, thats €133 million per year.
    How can that be achieved with 150,000 households paying €0 -€15 per month? If commercial DTT takes off, which is highly unlikely, the top dividend for the taxpayer will be in the low millions. Less than €5 million P/A after the commercial operator takes its cut.
    He must be thinking of using the spare bandwidth for services other than broadcasting. Ryan is away with the fairies.:rolleyes:

    The Digital Dividend is the name given to the release of television broadcasing spectrum (790-862 MHz) following ASO for other services including mobile broadband. DTT is being rolled out under the existing plan but a revised plan is being developed by ComReg, the BAI and RTÉ including Ofcom where necessary to release channels 61-69.

    Comreg and the Dept of Comms are currently developing a policy for the Digital Dividend in Ireland. A second Comreg consultation is due this quarter.

    This was probably the EU study he was referring to - Exploiting the digital dividend – a European approach


  • Posts: 22,785 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They are gone now according to that other thread.
    Quelle surprise... :rolleyes:

    RTE are considering their position.They are in serious defecit as it is...

    The way things are going with the ESB bill down at Mt Leinster,RTE will have the phones cut off by the time the BAI come a calling for an answer.

    As for UPC,they owe the himalaya's in bank borrowings as it is.
    Do ya think they are going to get the funds now to resource this?

    A lot of water/money/international financial turmoil has gone under the bridge and is still flooding the banks since they first proposed this.

    Bring on saorview and use the extra transmission equipment[thats now surplus to requirements as pay dtt is a non runner] to do the best job possible at filling the coverage holes.
    Thats the choice I think they should be making.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭carrolls


    The Cush wrote: »
    The Digital Dividend is the name given to the release of television broadcasing spectrum (790-862 MHz) following ASO for other services including mobile broadband. DTT is being rolled out under the existing plan but a revised plan is being developed by ComReg, the BAI and RTÉ including Ofcom where necessary to release channels 61-69.
    []

    Is there a potential take of between €133 Million and €665 million per year for this unused bandwidth?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,067 ✭✭✭slegs


    They are gone now according to that other thread.
    Quelle surprise... :rolleyes:

    RTE are considering their position.They are in serious defecit as it is...

    The way things are going with the ESB bill down at Mt Leinster,RTE will have the phones cut off by the time the BAI come a calling for an answer.

    As for UPC,they owe the himalaya's in bank borrowings as it is.
    Do ya think they are going to get the funds now to resource this?

    A lot of water/money/international financial turmoil has gone under the bridge and is still flooding the banks since they first proposed this.

    Bring on saorview and use the extra transmission equipment[thats now surplus to requirements as pay dtt is a non runner] to do the best job possible at filling the coverage holes.
    Thats the choice I think they should be making.

    Unless RTE can say right now that Easy TV is a goer then Pay DTT should be shelved. They should just launch the bloody PSB channels on the current transmitters and take it from there.

    RTE can shape Saorview and add channels as they go. If Easy TV becomes viable over time then revisit then but lets not waste any more time fannying about like we have with Boxer and Onevision.

    What a waste of fcuking time. The man on the street could have predicted where we are now 6 months ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭rlogue


    I'd watch and see what Eircom do next.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,067 ✭✭✭slegs


    rlogue wrote: »
    I'd watch and see what Eircom do next.

    Yes I am sure they have a plan B. I could take a guess at what that might be....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    slegs wrote: »
    Yes I am sure they have a plan B. I could take a guess at what that might be....


    IPTV? at 24mb/s its fairly viable and a lot cheaper than having to pay rtenl vast amounts of money???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,284 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    IPTV? at 24mb/s its fairly viable and a lot cheaper than having to pay rtenl vast amounts of money???

    That has been tested. It might not be Plan B though...

    Assuming they're not BSing with their "next generation broadband" and claims that they have the capacity for 8mbit or 24mbit uncontended to each subscriber, IPTV is absolutely workable.

    They're definitely going to investigate some way of doing triple-play, whatever it ends up being.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,067 ✭✭✭slegs


    IPTV? at 24mb/s its fairly viable and a lot cheaper than having to pay rtenl vast amounts of money???

    Or satellite


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,461 ✭✭✭✭watty


    IPTV? at 24mb/s its fairly viable and a lot cheaper than having to pay rtenl vast amounts of money???

    Ha!
    with less than 66% of households having phonelines, nearly 1/3rd of household phone lines left paid by Social Welfare, and AVERAGE line length allows only 7Mbps to 9Mbps total BB assuming a good line and ADSL2+ or better in the exchange DSLAM.

    eircom can only do a part viable VOD / Video IP service in areas where UPC can deliver 30 HD channels and 200 SD channels to ANY number of boxes in your house AND 120Mbps simultaneously.

    Look at BT vision. It works almost, because it's a HYBRID service, 30 channels via DTT (free) and DSL with PVR. Also in NI alone they are adding 1100 "fibre to cabinets" (Micro DSL exchange near the user in a roadside box).

    Eircom can't deliver a viable TV service on DSL to more than 10% of their customers (the very ones that probably can get a superior UPC service. Besides running IPTV is MORE expensive than DTT. Only satellite is cheaper, and only if you don't have to pay Sky etc for encryptions. IPTV each TV needs the data rate.

    Also A broadcast or cable multiplex can do statistical multiplexing and broadcast some services at a lower rate. That means for an AVERAGE 2Mbps on MPEG4 DTT, Satellite or cable, IPTV on DSL needs over 9Mbps speed to achieve the same quality, the line has to support the peak speed. Add a 2nd TV and you have 18Mbps peak! Add 10Mbps Broadband and you are at 30Mbps!
    Want real HD like on Satellite? (not the fake Xbox and youTube streaming, but BluRay quality DVD?) Then you need a peak speed per setbox / TV of 22Mbps or more! Even if the average is only 5Mbps (which is pushing it quality wise).

    DSL is a has-been.

    2 Billion would give everyone uncongested 20Mbps (far suburban, most rural) to 100Mbps (Urban), with maybe a few isolated rural on "only" 10Mbps instead of useless 3G dialup. But it would not be a substitute for real broadcast services, but complementary.

    Eircom are struggling just to do broadband.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭scath


    Time to change the thready, Boxer, Onevision gone, Easy TV Awarded: Will they Launch? Just created the Easy TV (DTT) wiki...of course references to follow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,461 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Source?

    Well...

    Either it will launch and go bust or it will not launch.

    Will it be 1 week (should be) or 1 year to decide if taking Contract?


    Have you any official link?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭scath


    watty wrote: »
    Source?

    Well...

    Either it will launch and go bust or it will not launch.

    Will it be 1 week (should be) or 1 year to decide if taking Contract?


    Have you any official link?

    Irish Independent print edition, yesterday, ...looking for online. No doubt today sources should become available. Obviously citations are better!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Perhaps the BAI should hand the 3 DTT MUXES back to ComReg.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,553 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Elmo wrote: »
    Perhaps the BAI should hand the 3 DTT MUXES back to ComReg.

    ............... or ask Sky if they want them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,352 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Now that EasyTV have allegedly been offered the licences to operate commercial DTT I've been browsing through their original application to the BCI.

    EasyTV has two shareholders RTÉ CEL and Irish Digital (TT) Holdings Limited (IDTTH) an indirect wholly owned subsidiary of Liberty Global, Inc.
    Irish Digital TT Holdings Limited (IDTTH), under corporation, is a wholly owned subsidiary of LGI Ventures BV (“LGIV”). LGIV is a limited liability company incorporated under the laws of the Netherlands and is an indirect wholly owned subsidiary of Liberty Global, Inc., (LGI).

    Irish Digital TT Holdings Limited according to the Companies Registration Office website was dissolved last July. I guess that when OneVision were offered the licences last May 2009 they assumed the licences wouldn't be returned for a second time.

    BTW anyone notice the old BCI website has gone offline this afternoon, was working this morning. Possibly gone for good.

    This is an interesting article from Jan 2008 - Ray Collins of UPC (and later a director of IDTTH) about complaining to the European Commission of RTÉ's plan to offer the UK channels on the PSB Mux and possible involvement in commercial DTT also TV3 being pleased to be carried on the PSB Mux.


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