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Oops - Apple lost their secret phone! They want it back!

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Talk about an over reaction: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1269124/iPhone-4G-leak-Gizmodo-editor-Jason-Chens-house-raided-police.html

    Bloody Apple - I wouldn't be buying any of their garbage.
    Who the fcuk do they think they are!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭Wossack


    Apple is like Mom's Friendly Robot Company, all nicey nicey on the outside with some frail old person at the helm, but under the veneer...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Wossack wrote: »
    Apple is like Mom's Friendly Robot Company, all nicey nicey on the outside with some frail old person at the helm, but under the veneer...
    ...a bunch of jack-boot skin headed thugs!

    The sad part is that the sheep of this world will still fall for their PR stunts, the polished shiny products and like all good fools who are easily parted with their hard earned cash, fork it out to them like good little boys and girls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    Wossack wrote: »
    Apple is like Mom's Friendly Robot Company, all nicey nicey on the outside with some frail old person at the helm, but under the veneer...
    Does this mean we can class Google as Professor Farnsworth?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,291 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    Just Apple keeping the PR machine going, great coverage for them regardless.
    Gizmodo been Apple fanboys for years, we'll see how that changes shortly.

    They shoud have just published the photos on their site from an anonymous 'source'


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,113 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    Biggins wrote: »
    ...a bunch of jack-boot skin headed thugs!

    The sad part is that the sheep of this world will still fall for their PR stunts, the polished shiny products and like all good fools who are easily parted with their hard earned cash, fork it out to them like good little boys and girls.

    So because Apple served a search warrant to retrieve their stolen goods they are full of jack-boot skin head thugs? Right, makes perfect sense. How do you explain the fact that the search warrant is signed by a judge and executed by the police. Surely they're the thugs if they bashed in the door and trashed the apartment.

    So anyone that purchases an apple product is a sheep. they are not doing it because they like the product. could you have possibly got any more condescending.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,659 ✭✭✭Mal-Adjusted


    Does this mean we can class Google as Professor Farnsworth?

    Apple is like Germany, ambitious and misunderstood
    Google is like Switzerland, small and neutral.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭Theta


    So because Apple served a search warrant to retrieve their stolen goods they are full of jack-boot skin head thugs? Right, makes perfect sense. How do you explain the fact that the search warrant is signed by a judge and executed by the police. Surely they're the thugs if they bashed in the door and trashed the apartment.

    So anyone that purchases an apple product is a sheep. they are not doing it because they like the product. could you have possibly got any more condescending.


    They are claiming the warrent was illegal as he was a journo and under cali law it makes him exempt from the seizure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,572 ✭✭✭DominoDub




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,458 ✭✭✭Dartz


    AFAIK, it wasn't actually stolen.

    The original finder *tried* to return it to Apple, but they just didn't want to hear about it...he rang customer services several times enquiring about it. It was lost weeks before it ever actually made it to Gizmodo. If the finder tries to return the property, and the original owner refuses it(or a representative of that owner), then does the finder not get to sort of keep that thing.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    If Gizmodo didn't know it was stolen why did they pay $5,000 for it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,623 ✭✭✭Panda


    This just in, Wozniak wears humerous tshirt....


    I went drinking with Gray Powell....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭Theta


    If Gizmodo didn't know it was stolen why did they pay $5,000 for it?

    They paid 5k for the story! And for the exclusive.

    In the UK I know you can be done for theft by finding and I think in California if you lose something it is not the finders for 5 years from the date it was found so technically I suppose from Apple's point of view it is stolen even though it was just found.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,113 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    Theta wrote: »
    They are claiming the warrent was illegal as he was a journo and under cali law it makes him exempt from the seizure.

    I realise this, but the fact is that the warrant was signed by a judge and executed by the police. So Apple did nothing wrong. Calling them thugs was way over the top.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭Theta


    I realise this, but the fact is that the warrant was signed by a judge and executed by the police. So Apple did nothing wrong. Calling them thugs was way over the top.


    Sorry I never said you did I was just saying the warrent is illegal and that any evidence gained will not be usable in court!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    I realise this, but the fact is that the warrant was signed by a judge and executed by the police. So Apple did nothing wrong. Calling them thugs was way over the top.
    The phone was on the way to them anyway from the gadget site, so why then was the blokes home raided?
    The site posted the correspondence to prove this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    So because Apple served a search warrant to retrieve their stolen goods they are full of jack-boot skin head thugs? Right, makes perfect sense. How do you explain the fact that the search warrant is signed by a judge and executed by the police. Surely they're the thugs if they bashed in the door and trashed the apartment.

    So anyone that purchases an apple product is a sheep. they are not doing it because they like the product. could you have possibly got any more condescending.
    I realise this, but the fact is that the warrant was signed by a judge and executed by the police. So Apple did nothing wrong. Calling them thugs was way over the top.
    And yet theres a clear Conflict of Interest when Apple sits on the Task Force that carried out the warrant, broke down Chen's front door and apprehended "4 PCs, 2 Servers, an Apple iPad, and several other devices."

    It was signed by a judge, but was not executed by Rank and File Police:
    "
    This is where the legal issues get sticky. Was the raid conducted by California’s REACT Task Force — the Rapid Enforcement Allied Computer Team — illegal because it violated the shield law? Or was it legal because the shield law doesn’t protect this type of crime?
    "


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    UPDATE: A sharp-eyed reader points out that the Wall Street Journal Monday quoted a deputy district attorney saying that Apple contacted authorities and "advised [them] there had been a theft," which, according to the Journal, led to the search warrant and the investigation.

    UPDATE 2: San Mateo County chief deputy DA Steve Wagstaffe offered more detail about Apple's role in an interview Tuesday with the San Jose Business Journal:

    "Wagstaffe said that an outside counsel for Apple, along with Apple engineer [Gray] Powell, called the District Attorney’s office on Wednesday or Thursday of last week to report a theft had occurred and they wanted it investigated. The District Attorney’s office then referred them to the Rapid Enforcement and Allied Computer Team, or REACT, a multi-jurisdictional, high-tech crime task force that operates under the Santa Clara County District Attorney’s office."

    http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/04/27/did-apple-call-the-cops-on-gizmodo/?cnn=yes


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Interesting eye opening, sometimes shocking article...
    (its a long one - but well, well worth it for those that want to know their stuff and not become another mindless cash forking out sheep!)
    Five Reasons You Should Be Scared of Apple


    5. Apple Versus Their Customers

    When you buy Apple products, you don't just buy computers or gadgets. Apple sells iPods and iPhones that play music purchased in their iTunes store. It's all part of Jobs's sales pitch to people who pride themselves on individuality. Even before there were ads featuring the kid from Die Hard 4 bickering with John Hodgeman in heaven, the message was been the same: PCs are for those people who follow the herd, but you choose Mac because you think differently. And the message seemed to take. In the court of public opinion, Apple is the hip, young underdog challenging his competition. Who have fared... less well.

    But there's an unfortunate catch with Apple products. Even after you spend your hard earned money on fancy Jobsian wonder-toys, you still don't really own them. Turns out Jobs might have literally been speaking in the first person when he started slapping I's in front of everything he sold. As in, "I am Steve Jobs and I just sold you suckers a gadget that iDesigned, iControl and iBreak if you break my arbitrary rules."

    Think we're exaggerating? Say you want to buy an iPhone. If your town isn't on one of the postcards Luke Wilson reads in the AT&T wireless commercials, you're going to have to "jailbreak" your new gadget. Don't worry; you won't need any digging spoons or defensive sodomy. Jailbreaking is just a term for modifying your iPhone in order to make it do what every other gadget on the market does: Whatever you tell it to. For instance, without jailbreaking you can't install unapproved third party applications, customize your user interface, or unlock your phone for use with another carrier.

    Again, manufacturers of other cell phones and gadgets generally don't care what customers do once they've paid for their products with good, honest credit card debt. But Apple goes beyond complaining. They will actively break your schite for disobeying their arbitrary rules.

    Yes, Apple has sent out updates specifically designed to disable phones that have been modified to work with carriers other than AT&T, or to run Microsoft Office. Seriously now, we'd be inventing new, fluorescent shades of berserk if, say, a PC manufacturer broke your computer for installing Linux.

    So how come Apple gets away with it?


    4. Apple Versus The First Amendment

    Jason O'Grady writes a column about Apple for the tech news website ZDNet. One day O'Grady came across some inside information about an Apple product. He posted it in his blog and then got back to whatever tech journalists spend their time doing. Masturbating while fondling digital cameras, probably.

    Upon finding out about the leak, Apple could have taken the free publicity and ignored the whole thing or simply asked O'Grady to remove his article. Instead, they went absolutely batfcuking crazy and hulked out on some poor nerd who gives them free advertising for a living.

    They subpoenaed his ISP, tried to get them to take down his website and source of employment, and also subpoenaed O'Grady himself in order to get the name of the source who leaked the information. Staring down the barrel of Apple's 14 billion dollar legal shotgun, Jason went to the Electronic Frontier Foundation for help, causing a legal cluster fcuk that went all the way to the state appeals court before a judge finally convinced Apple and Jobs to act like a couple of Fonzies and be cool.

    By now you're probably pretty curious to know just what sort of leak Apple thought was worth attempting to destroy O'Grady's career over. Was it a new iPod? Leaked code for an upcoming version of OS X? The iPhone?
    Nope. It was a FireWire breakout box for GarageBand.

    What's that? You have no fcuking clue what a FireWire breakout box is? Neither do most people. It's a minor peripheral product. Sort of makes you terrified for the poor bastard who leaks something important like...

    3. Apple Versus The Poor Bastard Who May or May Not Have Leaked an iPhone

    Apple is famous across the world for having some fairly strict policies on information security. On the transparency spectrum, Apple's corporate policy makes the CIA look like one of those sliding glass doors toddlers always run into on YouTube. Beyond the usual security doors and guards, according to the New York Times, "Some Apple workers in the most critical product-testing rooms must cover up devices with black cloaks when they are working on them, and turn on a red warning light when devices are unmasked so that everyone knows to be extra-careful, [former employee] said." The article didn't outright say that Steve Jobs has been implanting his employees with psycho-receptive "pain chips" designed to inflict unbearable agony upon the disloyal, but it was pretty heavily implied.

    So what's wrong with the secrecy? Absolutely nothing. Except when it indirectly leads to torture and suicide. Then it's probably time for management to throttle things back just a smidge. It was reported earlier this year, that Apple reached that point over a possible leak of an iPhone prototype.

    Sun Danyong was a young engineer who worked at the Shenzhen factory of Chinese electronics manufacturer, Foxconn. His job had something to do with handling new iPhone prototypes, one of which was lost or stolen while in his care. Apple has a zero tolerance policy for corporate leaks from the companies it works with, so Foxconn knew Danyong's slip-up could potentially cost them tens of millions of dollars in future business once Apple dropped the hammer.

    Caught between a rock and a hard place, Foxconn did the only thing a self-respecting sociopathic megacorporation could: torture the crap out of their employee. Facing another session over the missing iPhone prototype, Danyong leapt to his death from a 12th floor apartment building.

    Apple didn't torture Danyong themselves, but their maddeningly intense security policies set the mood. Prototypes and specs of other company's next generation devices leak out all the time, and no one gets hauled into interrogation chambers by corporate police over it.

    Employees being forced to work weekends and holidays without being allowed to tell their families; spy cameras inside of offices; engineers being forced to work under sheets... isn't this going a bit too far for consumer electronics? We expect this kind of security around, say, secret government bases and hidden volcano lairs, not from the makers of the Pippin.


    2. Apple Versus App Developers

    To date, over three billion apps have been downloaded from the iPhone App Store. Of course, Calendars and RSS Readers and flashlights and other "useful" apps only account for part of the over 150,000 the store offers. With hundreds of apps being submitted every week, you'd think Apple would have its hands full rejecting all of the useless ones built to simulate farting, drinking beer, brandishing a light-saber, shaking a baby and everything in between.

    Well, no. All that stuff gets through. Apple's main concern in policing the App Store seems to be stomping down on competition. Applications that duplicate Apple or AT&T apps (and do a better job of it) are likely to see the banhammer's vengeance visited upon them. MailWrangler, PodCaster and, most famously, Google Voice have all been banned for "duplicating functionality."
    Take for instance, Apple's rejecting the Eucalyptus app for obscenity.

    Ooooh! Eucalyptus. That's got to be slang for something kinky as all hell! Was this a social networking app for a very special subset of furries? A hook-up site for swinging Botanists? No, actually it was an Ebook app for public domain works. Since it provided access to a Victorian-era translation of the Kama Sutra, the app was deemed inappropriate. We asked Apple if they saw any irony in the fact that the iPhone's web browser provided access to a billion websites far filthier than an ancient translation of a religious text. Sadly, Apple's board of directors was too busy banning dancing in small Midwest towns to be reached.

    Jilted developers and Google aren't the only people pissed off at Apple's App Store policies. The boys at the FCC are investigating the App Store for anti-competitive practices. Apple responded to the accusation, which kicked off yet another gigantic legal clusterfcuk the results of which have yet to be decided, but are likely to be retarded.


    1. Apple Versus Absolutely Everyone: The Masterplan

    You might be asking why any of this should matter to you. After all, most of Apple's dickery is aimed at a small, tech savvy minority. People who know how to hack their iPhones or program applications or work for a giant Apple subsidiary in China. Jobs has always known that the vast majority of people think technology is something to watch porn on. Lucky for him, he's fantastic at designing technology that those people intuitively understand how to use. Unlucky for the non-savvy majority, there are increasing signs that we're the eventual target of Apple's master plan.

    If you're one of the tens of millions of people who have iTunes installed on their Windows machines, you might want to open up a search and see if Apple's "Safari" web browser has made its way onto your computer. No, you didn't download that on purpose and then forget about it. In March of 2008, Apple stuck a copy of Safari into a routine update for iTunes. They set the 22.65 MB file as part of the default download. Users who just skimmed over the update notice without reading it (IE: nearly everyone) soon found themselves with unwanted software.

    Response from the media and major figures in the tech industry was immediate and powerfully negative. The CEO of Mozilla even wrote a big blog entry blasting Apple. As he saw it, this move of Apple's wasn't just annoying, it posed a risk to the security of the whole Internet.

    In July of 2008, another iTunes update went out with a hidden program clinging to it like poop to a hairy ass. This time, the backlash was even more severe. Internet watchdog group Stopbadware.org accused Apple of spreading Malware. Bloggers again raised their flabby arms in protest. Apple quickly rescinded the update..

    So they've obviously learned their lesson, right? Well, in October of 2009, a new application from Apple landed in the U.S. Patent Office. Apple's idea was to program devices to periodically interrupt users with unskippable ads. The ads would temporarily halt performance of the device in order to "compel attention." That on its own is pretty nightmarish but, innovators that they are, Apple found a way to crank it up to that hard-to-reach "Lovecraftian" level.

    Their words:

    "Apple can further determine whether a user pays attention to the advertisement. The determination can include performing, while the advertisement is presented, an operation that urges the user to respond; and detecting whether the user responds to the performed operation. If the response is inappropriate or nonexistent, the system will go into lock down mode in some form or other until the user complies. In the case of an iPod, the sound could be disconnected rendering it useless until compliance is met. For the iPhone, no calls will be able to be made or received."

    Ho-lee Schite!!!

    And this isn't just some crazy, pie-in-the-sky idea some engineer at Apple had and decided to get patented. Steve Fcuking Jobs had his name attached to the application. Is this where the man who holds the reins to the entire Apple Corporation sees his product line going? A future where cheap, malware and prime-time TV-ad-riddled devices flood the market?

    Unfortunately, most of us won't know until our porn is being interrupted by an ad for FreeCreditReport.com!!!

    Source: http://www.cracked.com/article_18377_5-reasons-you-should-be-scared-apple.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,366 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    It's probably bullsh1t


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Keno 92 wrote: »
    It's probably bullsh1t

    Well if you bothered to read even some of the details, you would have learned - its all ON RECORD!

    Like DUH!!! But carry on...
    Baaa Baaaa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Keno 92 wrote: »
    It's probably bullsh1t
    Thats what I said about some of the crazy **** Ive seen in the Games Industry. Im ready to believe it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 InquiringMind


    Interesting timing.....
    Excerpts from a mail I received from XFX, a manufacturer of graphics cards, on 23/4/10


    Dear XFX Customers,

    In light of recent events, we suspect that one of our HD 5970 Black Edition Limited graphics cards may have been compromised. In our current inventory check of this limited run of 1,000 individually serialised pieces, #68 is unaccounted for. We have evidence of a security breach in our facility, thus we believe #68 has been illegally obtained as the product has yet to be released. Please be aware that the person responsible will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. If any news can be provided to lead us to the apprehension of a suspect, or if you can provide us with any information, please report it to blah, blah blah.

    followed by...

    Dear XFX patriot,

    Thank you for your involvement in the XFX HD 5970 Black Edition Limited campaign. Due entirely to the global network of XFX owners, our Gamertainment Appeal for information leading us to #68 was successful! .

    We received thousands of e-mails giving us leads to find our illusive product #68.

    In return for your participation, ONE LUCKY WINNER chosen at random from our worldwide database of fans WILL RECEIVE ONE of our coveted XFX HD 5970 Black Edition Limited graphics cards. So, if this email has been sent to your email address, you are eligible to win and you don't have to do a thing.

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    The item listing of Product #68 eBayis a valid auction. The winning bid is a binding contract and the winner will be committed to purchasing the item. This particular card will be a fully warranted product from XFX. In addition, this highly collectible piece of gaming history comes with the wooden crate featured in the videos and is signed by the XFX girls and cast of the promotion.


    Anyone else smelling the bs yet?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    ...Anyone else smelling the bs yet?

    LOL
    A mile off. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,924 ✭✭✭✭RolandIRL


    holy f*ck. that's the reason i don't like apple products. they're not customisable. you can't even change the battery. you have to send it away at a cost instead of being able to change a battery yourself on eg a Dell laptop.
    i never had or will have an iPod. that article talks about how apple promotes individuality, but how many f*cking people own an iPod? they're so ubiquitous.


    that's why i own a Aldi-brand (tevion) mp3 player :P


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