Breithlá Dhaidí

dambarude · 26-04-2010 09:01PM #1

An bhfuil sé ceart Breithlá Dhaidí a rá? Má tá, cén fáth go díreach a chuirtear an h isteach i ''Daidí? Go raibh maith agaibh!

pog it · 26-04-2010 09:59PM

Maybe cause Daidí is a personal noun?

My best guess at it, sorry, I'm not 100% sure!

dambarude · 26-04-2010 10:04PM

Thanks pog it. Every little helps.

I really need a certain answer for this- it might sound trivial, but it's quite tábhachtach!

GRMA again.

dlofnep · 26-04-2010 10:04PM

It takes a séimhiú because it's possessive I believe. Same as Seán's house (Teach Sheáin)

Good explanation here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_initial_mutations

dambarude · 26-04-2010 10:10PM

Go raibh míle maith agat dlofnep. Níl a fhios agam céard a dhéanfainn gan an forum seo!

dlofnep · 26-04-2010 10:23PM

Fadhb ar bith

pog it · 26-04-2010 10:39PM

Good stuff Dlof! Nice to know exactly the reason for that. The genitive is in there as well.

pog it · 26-04-2010 10:55PM

Sorry it's a 'proper noun' not a 'personal noun'- I'm useless at grammatical terms. And it's in genitive (can be possessive alright Dlof) relation to the noun preceding it.

On page 11 Ó Siadhail says:

"When a proper noun (i.e names of people or places, but not of languages) follows directly, in genitive relation, on another noun, its initial consonant changes.. ie. lenition.

muintir Cháit
muintir Pháidín
seomra uncail Bhairbre "

So if it's a proper noun following in genitive relation to a preceding noun the proper noun will suffer lenition!

dlofnep · 30-04-2010 01:18PM

To be honest, I don't always know the exact rules.. I just kind of know when something looks right or wrong.

Breithlá Dhaidí

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