Abandoned house - entitlement?

Slugs · 25-04-2010 09:06PM

They tuuk oooourr house!!!

Prof.Badass · 25-04-2010 09:13PM

Sounds like a plan for a summer of epicness at least. I wouldn't get too used to it though.

In my comepletely non-expert opinion, doing up the outside sounds like a bad idea. It'll attract only attention (and it hardly changes your living conditions anyway).

If i owned a run-down house and there were squatters in it (in all it's shitness) i'd probably let them stay, for a while at least. However, if they did up the house and started acting like it was theirs i would kick them out asap.

sponsoredwalk · 25-04-2010 09:14PM

El Siglo wrote: »

I hope they do a t-shirt of this chap...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FmVopEs9yI

The chap PWNED HIM!!!

phasers · 25-04-2010 09:15PM

Take it OP, and if the government don't like it they can Git oouuuut

gnxx · 25-04-2010 09:15PM

Make sure you keep good records as to the expenses related to the upkeep, bills paid etc. To prove the time spent in the property stuff like ESB bills etc will be worthwhile. Make sure that any water charges etc are paid. Take photographs and date them.

If somebody arrives at the door claiming ownership, I'd tell them you bought the property legitimately and wait for them to take a legal action. Make sure that you have the ESB bills etc for when you call the Gardai to have them removed from your property

Also keep it reasonably tight it terms of who you tell. Other parties may try and evict you if they find out your plans.

As a final point, I hope this works out for you. In the best case, you get a house for free. Worst case, you pay maintenance etc on a property but have no rent. Best of luck.

Keano! · 25-04-2010 09:16PM

vinylmesh wrote: »

Sounds like a plan for a summer of epicness. Enjoy it while you can, but I wouldn't get too cosy in it if i were you.

In my completely nonexpert position doing up the outside sounds like a bad idea. It'll attract only attention (and it hardly changes your living conditions anyway).

If i owned a run-down house and there were squatters in it (in all it's ****ness) i'd probably let them stay (for a while at least). However, if they did up the house and started acting like it was theirs i would kick them out asap.

cheers. maybe just doing up the inside then. need to take some of the boarding on the windows down though because the place is in darkness even with the sun out.

cheers for the advice. kinda excited about this idea.

Keano! · 25-04-2010 09:20PM

gnxx wrote: »

Make sure you keep good records as to the expenses related to the upkeep, bills paid etc. To prove the time spent in the property stuff like ESB bills etc will be worthwhile. Make sure that any water charges etc are paid. Take photographs and date them.

If somebody arrives at the door claiming ownership, I'd tell them you bought the property legitimately and wait for them to take a legal action. Make sure that you have the ESB bills etc for when you call the Gardai to have them removed from your property

Also keep it reasonably tight it terms of who you tell. Other parties may try and evict you if they find out your plans.

As a final point, I hope this works out for you. In the best case, you get a house for free. Worst case, you pay maintenance etc on a property but have no rent. Best of luck.

We weren't planning in using electricity. Crazy eh? haha.

have small portable power generators to power some things like speakers, small cooler, lamp etc.. only thing is we'd need a few more and recharge them at home and bring them with us

few butane tanks and a nice setup and the cooking is sorted. theres an table still there.

Also, something we noticed too. The floor boards had been ripped up in certain spots and wires hanging out of them. We're presuming the ESB came to the house and cut the wires.

kelle · 25-04-2010 09:24PM

If it has been unoccupied since 1996, and you are absolutely sure nobody has been to visit it, could you pretend to have inhabited it since then? That would be 14 years occupation.

I like your idea, OP - but are you not worried it could be haunted???

CantGetNoSleep · 25-04-2010 10:04PM

Strictly speaking you can't break into the house either, so just claim you came in through an open door

25-04-2010 10:16PM

kelle wrote: »

If it has been unoccupied since 1996, and you are absolutely sure nobody has been to visit it, could you pretend to have inhabited it since then? That would be 14 years occupation.

I like your idea, OP - but are you not worried it could be haunted???

Legendary if it worked but 14 years with no ESB etc. might sound a bit far fetched.. Plus I'm sure there's record of OP living elsewhere.

OP, I'd only be worried about rodents etc. You don't want to get comfy over the summer and forget the place could be home to Weil's Disease.

Mike 1972 · 25-04-2010 10:21PM

Deleted User wrote: »

but 14 years with no ESB etc. might sound a bit far fetched.. .

There was something on the TV a few months back about a pensioner in some remote part of Co. Antrim who only got electricity recently.

miss_shadow wrote: »

Only problem is that I went away for one night and she broke in the window and changed the locks!!

Breaking and entering/Criminal Damage/agrivated trespass..........

Noreen1 · 25-04-2010 10:42PM

I have just one question for you OP. Is the field this house is built on overgrown with weeds? If not, someone is maintaining it - which probably means they are paying rent for the field, and therefore ,the house.

I have some land a couple of miles from where I live. I couldn't begin to count the number of times people have arrived uninvited - usually tourists.

As a general rule, I tend to be polite, while confirming that yes, the land is privately owned, and no, it's not for sale.

On the other hand, if I arrived to find someone claiming squatters rights - then I guess I wouldn't be polite - much as I was less than polite to a certain American who informed me that he was buying my land, and proceeded to tell me where he would build his house............

Mike 1972 · 25-04-2010 10:49PM

You should at least have established how much he was willing to pay first :pac:

Lone Stone · 25-04-2010 11:30PM

Do it i dare you i bet it is haunted and you get raped by ghosts woo aww ghost sex.

RMD · 25-04-2010 11:38PM

Jesus man, imagine if you were a teenager again, the free gaffs you could have in that joint once the place was cleaned up and made habitable:pac:

El Siglo · 25-04-2010 11:57PM

RMD wrote: »

Jesus man, imagine if you were a teenager again, the free gaffs you could have in that joint once the place was cleaned up and made habitable:pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBShN8qT4lk

JONJO THE MISER · 26-04-2010 02:39AM

Where is this place O.P, ive spare time on my hands and wouldnt mind doing it up.

Gillington · 26-04-2010 02:47AM

I wanna invite to the house-warming!

seanybiker · 26-04-2010 02:59AM

Noreen1 wrote: »

much as I was less than polite to a certain American who informed me that he was buying my land, and proceeded to tell me where he would build his house............

Did you happen to go a bit mad and drive your cows and your son off a cliff? Your the bull

DamoDLK · 26-04-2010 07:29AM

Good luck OP, but the chances are as soon as you make it nice and done up - some chap will pop up and have a legitimate claim on it, and all the clean up work done already will be in vain..

Keano! · 26-04-2010 08:07AM

Noreen1 wrote: »

I have just one question for you OP. Is the field this house is built on overgrown with weeds? If not, someone is maintaining it - which probably means they are paying rent for the field, and therefore ,the house.

I have some land a couple of miles from where I live. I couldn't begin to count the number of times people have arrived uninvited - usually tourists.

As a general rule, I tend to be polite, while confirming that yes, the land is privately owned, and no, it's not for sale.

On the other hand, if I arrived to find someone claiming squatters rights - then I guess I wouldn't be polite - much as I was less than polite to a certain American who informed me that he was buying my land, and proceeded to tell me where he would build his house............

yep, overgrown with weeds/grass. vines on the side of the house are coming into the windows at places too.

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Where is this place O.P, ive spare time on my hands and wouldnt mind doing it up.

like im going to tell you

Gillington wrote: »

I wanna invite to the house-warming!

i'll get back to ya

DamoDLK wrote: »

Good luck OP, but the chances are as soon as you make it nice and done up - some chap will pop up and have a legitimate claim on it, and all the clean up work done already will be in vain..

yeah, but we're willing to do it so i guess we can't really be in trouble. Headline 'Two young men caught cleaning abandoned house!'

tororosso · 26-04-2010 08:25AM

As far as the thread title goes it appears that you are looking to gain some foothold in terms of ownership so I really doubt anybody is going to do up a house just for the fun of it some summer :rolleyes:
I can't believe some of the replies on here. If it is not the OP's property and not the OP's land then it is none of the OP's business to even modify said property. How is this not breaking and entering? I highly doubt that this house is not owned by somebody somewhere..
The whole squatters rights issue is cynical and tacky. Is this a wind up?

4zn76tysfajdxp · 26-04-2010 08:26AM

Keano! wrote: »

yep, overgrown with weeds/grass. vines on the side of the house are coming into the windows at places too.

like im going to tell you

i'll get back to ya

yeah, but we're willing to do it so i guess we can't really be in trouble. Headline 'Two young men caught cleaning abandoned house!'

sponsoredwalk · 26-04-2010 08:31AM

Noreen1 wrote: »

On the other hand, if I arrived to find someone claiming squatters rights - then I guess I wouldn't be polite - much as I was less than polite to a certain American who informed me that he was buying my land, and proceeded to tell me where he would build his house............

Queue a John B. Keane book...

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080314/St-Patricks-Day/The-Field_l.jpg

stovelid · 26-04-2010 08:35AM

The owners have left it lying in that state in the hope that some fool will renovate it so they can show up and reclaim it.

Gone Drinking · 26-04-2010 09:07AM

Sounds like a job for the Famous Five

Noreen1 · 26-04-2010 09:25AM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

You should at least have esta,blished how much he was willing to pay first :pac:

I wouldn't have accepted 10 times its value, just to see the look on his arrogant, obnoxious face.

:D

Noreen

Noreen1 · 26-04-2010 09:30AM

seanybiker wrote: »

Did you happen to go a bit mad and drive your cows and your son off a cliff? Your the bull

I don't have any cows

. And I'm usually very peace-loving. It just irritates the h*ll out of me when people who are clearly filthy rich think they can walk all over other people......So, when a several polite refusals don't work.....

Dravokivich · 26-04-2010 09:46AM

Gone Drinking wrote: »

Sounds like a job for the Famous Five

Famous Five... pif...

Secret Seven man!

DavyD_83 · 26-04-2010 11:29AM

tororosso wrote: »

As far as the thread title goes it appears that you are looking to gain some foothold in terms of ownership so I really doubt anybody is going to do up a house just for the fun of it some summer :rolleyes:
I can't believe some of the replies on here. If it is not the OP's property and not the OP's land then it is none of the OP's business to even modify said property. How is this not breaking and entering? I highly doubt that this house is not owned by somebody somewhere..
The whole squatters rights issue is cynical and tacky. Is this a wind up?

Sure why not? As far as I can see from anything the OP has written that is exactly what he is after. He has said he would happily clear out if legit owner told him to and doesn't seem to have any intention of causing any damage. I may be wrong but I got the impression from first couple of posts that they have no intention of living there, although everybody else seems to be viewing it differently...
A few years back, I would have been willing to do exactly the same as the OP, putting a bit of effort in to have a decent spot for chilling, drinking etc.
as long as the OP doesn't start knocking walls or causing any damage, no harm done.
My only real warning would be that if you do get it somewhat sorted be careful who you tell about it/how visible the changes are, or sooner or later somebody will just wreck the place...

Abandoned house - entitlement?

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