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BoarHunter · 24-04-2010 8:21am

Montauban is pretty much doomed at this stage. They have appealed their order of administrative demotion but i don't know who could save them. But you never know and i'm Sure Bayonne prefers to have the situation in controle by beating montauban

pappyodaniel · 24-04-2010 3:55pm

Can anyone give a rough interpretation of what Blanco is saying about the upcoming HC semi between Munster and Biarritz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1iJAUYP7m4

BoarHunter · 24-04-2010 5:26pm

Stade Toulousain 25 - 17 Castres olympique

Montpellier 34 - 27 Bourgoin

Montauban 22 - 8 Bayonne

Brive 23 - 26 Toulon

Perpignan 44 - 0 Albi

Stade Francais 41 - 17 Racing Metro

Biarritz 19 - 26 Clermont

The Rooster · 24-04-2010 5:54pm

Anyone have an updated table please?

P_1 · 24-04-2010 6:39pm

From Planet Rugby:

1 Perpignan 80
2 Toulon 80
___________
3 Clermont 78
4 Toulouse 74
5 Castres 73
6 Racing Métro 64
___________
7 Biarritz 59
8 Stade Français 58
9 Brive 57
10 Montpellier 55
11 Bourgoin 50
12 Montauban 49
____________
13 Bayonne 47
14 Albi 24

BoarHunter · 24-04-2010 8:01pm

First play off matchs :

Clermont _ Racing Metro 92
Toulouse _ Castres

Perpignan and Toulon have a bye for this round. They are already through to the semi

BoarHunter · 24-04-2010 8:10pm

pappyodaniel wrote: »

Can anyone give a rough interpretation of what Blanco is saying about the upcoming HC semi between Munster and Biarritz.

He is saying that Biarritz are going to need to brave a tough challenge up front. They can do it but they will have to be smart and take the opportunities. for him it is 50/50. it's always been close in between the 2 teams. This will be great rugby celebration in San Sebastian.

crisco10 · 24-04-2010 8:43pm

I assume all the talk of Dusatoir's injury was bull and he played at the weekend?

The Rooster · 24-04-2010 9:37pm

crisco10 wrote: »

I assume all the talk of Dusatoir's injury was bull and he played at the weekend?

They were rubbished immediately, he's 100%.

The real concern was over the Hairy Donkey. Anyone know if he played for Biarritz?

BoarHunter · 24-04-2010 10:04pm

The Rooster wrote: »

They were rubbished immediately, he's 100%.

The real concern was over the Hairy Donkey. Anyone know if he played for Biarritz?

no he didn't play. he will have a test during the week to know if he will be fit.

buck65 · 26-04-2010 9:03am

So when the 1/4 finals are played and Clermont and Toulouse win:mad: who plays who in the semis and where are they to be played?

BoarHunter · 26-04-2010 3:33pm

buck65 wrote: »

So when the 1/4 finals are played and Clermont and Toulouse win:mad: who plays who in the semis and where are they to be played?

Perpignan will play against the winner of Toulouse - Castres in Montpellier ( stade de la mosson Cap : 32500 )

Toulon will play the winner of Clermont - Racing Metro 92 in St Etienne ( Stade Geoffroy Guichard Cap 35000 )

Risteard · 26-04-2010 3:39pm

Montauban have filed for Bankruptcy and will now be relegated while Bayonne will stay up instead.

Link

Hard to believe that just last season, they were in touching distance of probably the biggest upset in HC history.

buck65 · 26-04-2010 4:22pm

Treviso surely hold that honour beating Perpignan twice!
Montauban were the better team that night and we were lucky to get a well dodgy penalty.

ScrubsfanChris · 27-04-2010 3:13pm

buck65 wrote: »

Treviso surely hold that honour beating Perpignan twice!
Montauban were the better team that night and we were lucky to get a well dodgy penalty.

Twice?
Are you sure.

PhatPiggins · 27-04-2010 5:18pm

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

Twice?
Are you sure.

Once this season anyway, thought they lost both legs last season myself.

pat_mas · 07-05-2010 10:59am

For those interested:
today:
--> ASM Clermont vs Racing Metro @ 7:30pm / TV5 Monde
tomorrow:
--> Toulouse vs Castres @ ~3pm / TV5 Monde

TV5 Monde is on ch#799 / SKY (in French)

07-05-2010 12:18pm

pat_mas wrote: »

For those interested:
today:
--> ASM Clermont vs Racing Metro @ 7:30pm / TV5 Monde
tomorrow:
--> Toulouse vs Castres @ ~3pm / TV5 Monde

TV5 Monde is on ch#799 / SKY (in French)

amazing, double delighted they are on tv5.

BoarHunter · 07-05-2010 1:17pm

15-Wisniewski -14- Bobo,13- Chavancy,12- Masi,11- Saubade,10- Steyn,9- Fillol,8- Chabal,7-Cronje,6- Leo'o,5 - Nallet (cap.),4- Dellape - 3-Tuugahala,2- Diomandé,1- Lo Cicero
Bench: Festuccia, Merabet, Qovu, Berry, Mehrtens, Vakaloa, Orlandi

15-Rougerie (cap.),14 - Nalaga,13- Joubert,12- Canale,11- Malzieu,10- James, 9- Parra ,8- Vermeulen,7- Lapandry,6- Bonnaire,5- Pierre,4- Cudmore, 3- Zirakashvili,2- Cabello,1- Domingo.
Bench : Wepener, Debaty, Privat, Audebert, Senio, Lavea, Floch, Scelzo.

First of these new formula play off matches. The new Paris XV is coming to Cermont with nothing to lose. This is their first season in Elite. The coach Berbizier made an intriguing move in shfting Wisniewski at full back while Steyn will take charge of the fly half position ( i wouldn't like to be a winger for Paris tonight

).
On Clermont side Rougerie will start Full back while Nalaga will be at the Wing. Impressive back three with Malzieu ! looks like Berbizier doesn't want the ball to go that far

Ledesma is not fit.

The odds are for Clermont but Paris could create the upset if Berbizier plans work. If they keep the game up front they have a chance. If Clermont manage to get the ball quickly outside then it might be easier. Steyn mission tonight is to cut James from Parra.

buck65 · 07-05-2010 4:09pm

Setanta is showing Toulouse v Castres live on Saturday plus deferred coverage of ASM v Racing.

I wonder with the ML going to RTE next year will they increase their live total of French games?

buck65 · 07-05-2010 4:17pm

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

Twice?
Are you sure.

No I'm wrong there.

vienne86 · 08-05-2010 2:34pm

buck65 wrote: »

Setanta is showing Toulouse v Castres live on Saturday plus deferred coverage of ASM v Racing.

I wonder with the ML going to RTE next year will they increase their live total of French games?

Is it definite that the ML is going to RTE next year?

BoarHunter · 10-05-2010 2:34pm

Clermont 21-17 Racing
Toulouse 35 - 12 Castres

The Racing can have regrets. They really could have make it. Morgan Parra decided otherwise and kicked a nice 5 /5 after taking over Brok James. A YC a bit harsh against Racing.
toulouse Cruised against Catsres. Castres were the real scarecrows in the regular season and really didn't perform in the play off. toulouse game is really better and better. Only extreme Fatigue could prevent them from winning something this year. They have an unbelievable schedule ATM.

Next week :

Toulon - Clermont
Perpignan - Toulouse

thomond2006 · 10-05-2010 4:00pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HVqAGcUAfE

****ing hell. :eek:

No altitude to help him out here.

irishbucsfan · 10-05-2010 4:31pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

****ing hell. :eek:

No altitude to help him out here.

Thats just ridiculous. I still don't rate him that highly, but that's incredible. Fair play to him. Could've gone 80 metres

BoarHunter · 12-05-2010 2:55pm

Racing Metro 92, freshly eliminated from the Top14 Play off have announced their recruitement for next season.

JM Hernandez ( Sharks; Fly Half ), Nicolas Durand ( Perpigan; Scrum Half ), Benjamin Fall ( Bayonne; Winger ), Mirco Bergamasco ( Stade Francais; Winger ),Julien Brugnaut (Munster; Prop), Benjamin Sa (Montauban; Prop), Scott Zimmerman (Brive; Prop), Karim Ghezal (Montauban; Lock), Antoine Battut (Montauban; Flanker), Albert VuliVuli (Bourgoin; winger)

They will be a very tough opposition next season.

PhatPiggins · 12-05-2010 3:45pm

BoarHunter wrote: »

Racing Metro 92, freshly eliminated from the Top14 Play off have announced their recruitement for next season.

JM Hernandez ( Sharks; Fly Half ), Nicolas Durand ( Perpigan; Scrum Half ), Benjamin Fall ( Bayonne; Winger ), Mirco Bergamasco ( Stade Francais; Winger ),Julien Brugnaut (Munster; Prop), Benjamin Sa (Montauban; Prop), Scott Zimmerman (Brive; Prop), Karim Ghezal (Montauban; Lock), Antoine Battut (Montauban; Flanker), Albert VuliVuli (Bourgoin; winger)

They will be a very tough opposition next season.

Nooooooooo not Brugnaut, thats Munster fecked for next season.

Very surprised Durand is moving always had him down as Mr Perpignan

ScrubsfanChris · 12-05-2010 4:00pm

Thats some haul of signing's. Shows what you can do with a nearly unlimited budget.

Are the player salary caps coming in next season?

BoarHunter · 12-05-2010 4:27pm

the salary cap will be put in place at 8 millions. ( 4.5 millions in England )

PhatPiggins · 12-05-2010 6:44pm

BoarHunter wrote: »

the salary cap will be put in place at 8 millions. ( 4.5 millions in England )

So the top 8 teams have to effectively halve their budgets! Not a chance of that happening. I presume they'll have sponsorship and third party payments to get around it.

thomond2006 · 12-05-2010 9:47pm

PhatPiggins wrote: »

So the top 8 teams have to effectively halve their budgets! Not a chance of that happening. I presume they'll have sponsorship and third party payments to get around it.

IIRC wasn't that what got Melbourne Storm into trouble?

PhatPiggins · 12-05-2010 11:00pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

IIRC wasn't that what got Melbourne Storm into trouble?

True but if a whole league is doing it its harder to enforce then on a single team like Melbourne.

Can you honestly see the likes of Toulouse/Clermont/Toulon slashing their squad numbers by 33% ?

thomond2006 · 12-05-2010 11:24pm

PhatPiggins wrote: »

True but if a whole league is doing it its harder to enforce then on a single team like Melbourne.

Can you honestly see the likes of Toulouse/Clermont/Toulon slashing their squad numbers by 33% ?

True that.

BoarHunter · 13-05-2010 9:16am

PhatPiggins wrote: »

True but if a whole league is doing it its harder to enforce then on a single team like Melbourne.

Can you honestly see the likes of Toulouse/Clermont/Toulon slashing their squad numbers by 33% ?

That's what is already done in England, you always find a way. Let's be clear on this. This measure is not made to make things better for the other leagues. This is a prevention for excess and possible administrative demotions that would be a shame for the TOP14. Some clubs are too tempted to go over the limits of their capacities.

PhatPiggins · 13-05-2010 11:28am

BoarHunter wrote: »

That's what is already done in England, you always find a way. Let's be clear on this. This measure is not made to make things better for the other leagues. This is a prevention for excess and possible administrative demotions that would be a shame for the TOP14. Some clubs are too tempted to go over the limits of their capacities.

French clubs are now far more powerful financially then the English clubs were when the RFU introduced their cap though. I think they struggle to enforce it.

Are they still brining in the minimum number of French players per club quota?

BoarHunter · 13-05-2010 12:41pm

they were talking about 40 % which is a bit unrealistic at the moment. I don't know if it will be put in place in the next future.

ScrubsfanChris · 14-05-2010 2:51pm

The Semi-Final between tonight is on TV5 (Sky Channel 799) if anyone is interested.

irishbucsfan · 14-05-2010 7:20pm

I'm really excited about this game. Almost excited as I am by the prospect of a possible Clermont Toulouse final.

This is the pinacle of club rugby in the world. There is no higher standard than this. Too bad I have no TV where I'm living... Just hoping I can find a stream and my internet somehow miraculously speeds up to allow me to watch it.

BoarHunter · 14-05-2010 7:44pm

Perpignan - Toulouse
( Stade de la Mosson cap : 33000 )
3 weeks that perpignan haven't played a competition match. On the other side Toulouse are on their way through an hectic schedule. Sometimes it is not the fresher who takes the esge. toulouse game has been better and better as they are programmed every year to finish very strong. Perpignan have a real strong team but will they be able to find each other on the pitch ?

Perpignan : Porical - Sid, Marty, Mermoz, Manas - (o) Laharrague ou Hume (m) Durand - Pérez, Tuilagi, Tonita - Tchale-Watchou, Olibeau - Mas (cap.), Guirado, Freshwater.

bench : Tincu, Schuster, Vilaceca, Le Corvec , ou Cazenave, Grandclaude, Burger, Pulu.

Toulouse : Poitrenaud - Delasau, Fritz, Jauzion, Heymans - (o) Skrela, (m) Bezy - Maka, Sowerby, Bouilhou (cap.) - Albacete, Maestri - Johnston, Lacombe, Human.

bench : Servat, Poux, Millo-Chluski, Picamoles, Médard, Clerc, David ou Dusautoir, Lecouls

ScrubsfanChris · 14-05-2010 9:43pm

Perpignan 21
Toulouse 13

Final Score.

thomond2006 · 15-05-2010 10:12am

Match Report: http://www.rugby365.com/news/2416150.htm

Perpignan, the reigning Top 14 champions, are through to the 2010 Final after beating Toulouse 21-13 at Stade de La Mosson in Montpellier on Friday evening. And they did it without scoring a single try.

In fact there was just one try in the match, scored by Toulouse's scrumhalf, 20-year-old Nicolas Bézy near the start of the match. The winning points all came from Perpignan's fullback, Jérôme Porical.

After just eight minutes, Toulouse led 7-0 and after 26 minutes were ahead 13-9, which was the half-time score. They did not score again. Even the try which they scored, glorious though it was, was against the run of play. Finau Maka won a turnover and off went Florian Fritz and Clément Poitrenaud who gave to David Skrela. The big flyhalf passed inside the Bézy who scored under the posts.

In the last few minutes, with Perpignan leading 18-13, proud Toulouse threw everything into the attack with Louis Picamoles close but Thierry Dusautoir was penalised and the Catalans escaped - successfully for with just two minutes to go Porical, who had missed a long kick at goal shortly before, goaled his seventh to put Toulouse beyond a converted try.

In the second half Porical goaled four penalties as gradually the Catalans climbed till they took the lead with half an hour to go.

Perpignan have their magnificent defence and the performance of their pack at scrum time to thank for the victory.

The Catalans are back on the journey to the Final. Their opponents, Clermont or Toulon, will be known after Saturday's semifinal.

Scorers:

For Perpignan:
Pens: Porical 7

For Toulouse:
Try: Bézy
Con: Skrela
Pens: Skrela 2

Teams:

Perpignan: 15 Jérôme Porical, 14 Farid Sid, 13 David Marty, 12 Maxime Mermoz, 11 Christophe Manas, 10 Gavin Hume, 9 Nicolas Durand, 8 Jean-Pierre Pérez, 7 Henry Tuilagi, 6 Ovidiu Tonita, 5 Robins Tchale-Watchou, 4 Olivier Olibeau, 3 Nicolas Mas (captain), 2 Guilhem Guirado, 1 Perry Freshwater
Replacements: 16 Marius Tincu, 17 Jérôme Schuster, 18 Guillaume Vilaceca, 19 Grégory Le Corvec, 20 David Mélé, 21 Jean-Philippe Grandclaude, 22 Philip Burger, 23 Kisi Pulu

Toulouse: 15 Clément Poitrenaud, 14 Vilimoni Delasau, 13 Florian Fritz, 12 Yannick Jauzion, 11 Cédric Heymans, 10 David Skrela, 9 Nicolas Bézy, 8 Finau Maka, 7 Shaun Sowerby, 6 Jean Bouilhou, 5 Patricio Albacete, 4 Yoann Maestri, 3 Census Johnston, 2 Virgile Lacombe, 1 Daan Human
Replacements: 16 William Servat, 17 Jean-Baptiste Poux, 18 Romain Millo-Chluski, 19 Louis Picamoles, 20 Thierry Dusautoir, 21 Maxime Médard, 22 Vincent Clerc, 23 Benoît Lecouls

Referee: Romain Poite
Assistant referees: Pascal Gauzere, Cyril Lafon
Assessor: Daniel Pascal, Michel Kazmierczak
Television match official: Gérard Borreani

Don't recognise the name of the Toulouse scrum half, were Elissalde and Kelleher both injured?
They had no SH on the bench too.

PhatPiggins · 15-05-2010 10:30am

thomond2006 wrote: »

Match Report: http://www.rugby365.com/news/2416150.htm

Don't recognise the name of the Toulouse scrum half, were Elissalde and Kelleher both injured?
They had no SH on the bench too.

Dare I say it but were Toulouse resting players for the HC final? Look at the guys they have on the bench!

Risteard · 15-05-2010 10:38am

Toulouse have said that their priority is the HC. I think one of their players said it in an interview a while back before the semi-final.

tof2006 · 15-05-2010 12:21pm

Yep Guy Noves the Toulouse manager, spend last week claiming Toulouse could not win both HCup and Brennus, with such succession of intense games, and that anyway europe was Toulouse priority. The front line should be back to its best for the H-Cup final.

BoarHunter · 19-05-2010 1:57pm

Avants (16) :
Fabien Barcella (Biarritz), Thomas Domingo (Clermont), Dimitri Szarzewski (Stade Français), Guilhem Guirado (Perpignan), Nicolas Mas (Perpignan), Luc Ducalcon (Castres), Jean-Baptiste Poux (Stade Toulousain), Romain Millo-Chluski (Stade Toulousain), Lionel Nallet (Racing-Métro), Pascal Papé (Stade Français), Julien Pierre (Clermont), Imanol Harinordoquy (Biarritz), Louis Picamoles (Stade Toulousain), Thierry Dusautoir (Stade Toulousain, cap.), Julien Bonnaire (Clermont), Wenceslas Lauret (Biarritz).

Arrières (14):
Dimitri Yachvili (Biarritz), Morgan Parra (Clermont), François Trinh-Duc (Montpellier), David Skrela (Stade Toulousain), Maxime Mermoz (Perpignan), Yannick Jauzion (Stade Toulousain), David Marty (Perpignan), Mathieu Bastareaud (Stade Français), Vincent Clerc (Stade Toulousain), Marc Andreu (Castres), Clément Poitrenaud (Stade Toulousain), Jérôme Porical (Perpignan), Aurélien Rougerie (Clermont), Julien Malzieu (Clermont).

19-05-2010 2:14pm

At a glance, a notable omission is Cédric Heymans. I know he's old but he did score a savage try against the All Blacks last year.

No Ellisalde or Floch either.

If France got a decent out half they would be the ones to beat at the RWC next year. Either way they'll still probably beat NZ

BoarHunter · 19-05-2010 4:29pm

Forwards (14): Jérôme Schuster (Perpignan), Yannick Forestier (Castres), Benjamin Kayser (Stade Français), Jean-Philippe Genevois (Bourgoin), Clément Baïocco (Racing-Métro), Rabah Slimani (Stade Français), Yoann Maestri (Stade Toulousain), Joselino Suta (Toulon), Guillmaume Vilaceca (Perpignan), Antoine Batut (Montauban), Sylvain Nicolas (Bourgoin), Florian Faure (Biarritz), Grégory Lamboley (Stade Toulousain), Jean-Pierre Pérez (Perpignan)

Backs (12): Julien Dupuy (Stade Français), Nicolas Durand (Perpignan), Lionel Beauxis (Stade Français), Benjamin Boyet (Bourgoin), Romain Cabannes (Castres), Yann David (Stade Toulousain), Henry Chavancy (Racing-Métro), Lionel Mazars (Bayonne), Maxime Médard (Stade Toulousain), Adrien Planté (Perpignan), Farid Sid (Perpignan), Benjamin Thiéry (Montpellier)

thomond2006 · 19-05-2010 4:34pm

Amazing that class players like Durand, Beauxis and Medard can only make the A squad! :eek:

castie · 19-05-2010 4:40pm

Susprised to see Dupuy there considering hes been suspended for over 20 weeks. ( unless they worked some way around letting him play. not up on my french rugby)

BoarHunter · 19-05-2010 4:43pm

Durand is under Parra, Elissalde, Michalak, Yachvili and Dupuy

Elissalde looks he needs rest ( he gets injured every second match ) Michalak is out for long.

For Beauxis, he was in great form at the end of the season but he is paying for his club bad results. If he continues to show the form he had against Toulouse in HCup he could make it for the Autumn series.

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